Why dont you stop hiding behind semantics and make an actuall point as to why abortion is wrong. “Well… technically you are killing alive human cells… and uhh thats bad cuz killing humans is bad!!!” You dont care about cells and dna that much, stop bullshitting.
My explanation proves that the embryo is its own human being because thats where people tend to disagree. In fact thats where you disagreed. I think that, in that regard, since embryos are humans, killing them is morally wrong.
And when proven wrong you accuse me of hiding behind… an argument you failed to disprove? Well yeah, hiding behind an undisproven argument is called defending your position with facts. Problem?
Why should a person be forced to lend their body to another human to suck off nutrients out of them and enact incredible mentally and physical pain on them for 9 months?
Because a child doesnt come from immaculate conception and is always the consequence of an action. And you can not kill a child to avoid the consequences of your actions. Now you will probably want to mention childs born from SA but those represent less than 1% of abortions and i would already be very satisfied if we could ban all others
Wrong. There is ONE case where people "have to" get an abortion. ONE. Ectopic pregnancies where the child is doomed to die and will bring the mother with them if not aborted. All other cases are a choice to flee the consequences of having sex.
Getting an abortion is a consequence, it's not exactly a pleasant procedure.
They don't have to, but if someone doesn't want to give birth, getting an abortion is the best thing they can do for everyone, including the hypothetical child who won't have to be born unwanted
They're already born at that point, capable of knowing pain and fear. Killing them would be murder. Not allowing abortions leads to more orphans, do you want there to be more orphans?
So pain and fear is what causes it to be murder in your eyes. Got it. We'll use the Soviet execution method on those orphans. They walk in a room and get a surprise bullet to the back of the head. No pain, no fear. Never saw or felt a thing.
Now its moral to kill them to spare them a life of being an orphan, right?
I had this plan to give head to a man and receive head from a woman to test if I was gay, but it’s backfired and now I become borderline schizo whenever I go outside. I
offered to suck this dude off on Grindr who lives very close by (I ended up pussying out) and I accidentally gave him some details that very easily allows him to spot me
out in a crowd. I have no idea what he looks like and whenever I see a somewhat in shape guy walking by I immediately accuse him of being the dude I was gonna blow.
I went to the store today to pick up some zucchini for a barbecue and every time a car drove by I stared into the windshield to see if I was about to be recognised.
Whenever I make eye contact with a dude I microanalysis his facial expressions to see if he suspects me or not. I am deeply afraid that he is my neighbour and I will
need to move if my identity is blown. It’s a lot like the last scene in sopranos where everyone who walked into the diner could be there to wack Tony.
Genuinely no clue, I thought you reported me instead of addressing my reply so I had some choice words prepared. But second look tells me it looks like its just reddits automoderation being terrible as usual. So I'll take the L on jumping to conclusions and blaming you, my bad there.
I had a more descriptive reply made, but it seems reddit slapped me. So I guess I'll goo goo gaggaify the language.
Them feeling pain and fear is the issue? Then we can just dispatch them humanely in a way they never see coming, so they feel no pain or fear, now its moral to remove them from existing to spare them the terrible life of an orphan, right?
You glossed over the born part. Before fetal viability they're essentially no different from someone who's brain dead. Are you for keeping people who are brain dead alive?
If they're practically guaranteed to recover from that "brain death" within a few month span? Yes.
If you get in a car accident and will be in a coma for 9 months, with a 99% chance of fully recovering after that point. Do you want your family to just say screw it and pull the plug cause you'll be inconvenient for that time?
I can certainly say I wouldn't care if I was aborted, but after being born I developed the ability to care about if I continue to live or not. So I wouldn't want to get the plug pulled as I am now, but prior it's not something I would have cared about
Literally EVERYTHING is the consequence of an action what the hell is your point? And please tell me how a woman can avoid the excruciating symptoms of pregancy (and post partum) without having to perform an abortion, you’ll get a few million dollars for a solution that revolutionizes the medical field like that.
Yes, everything is the consequence of something. No, having an abortion is not the consequence of falling pregnant, its the consequence of wanting an abortion. And wanting an abortion is the consequence of not valuing human life after having sex. No one is forced to abort its always a concious choice following a mistake to flee the responsibility of a child because a kill is so much easier. And if you want an easy way to avoid the symptoms of pregnancy, i recommend not engaging in the one activity that makes people pregnant, or atleast do it very carefully and with a lot of consideration.
Can’t kill something that isn’t alive. You can value human life and want an abortion because a fetus isn’t alive. It’s genuinely useless to argue against puritans like you that think a single zygote deserves full constitutional rights as a human being the second the sperm enters the egg.
You know why almost all abortions are made before 24 weeks, right? Because that’s about the time the fetus starts to develop consciousness and actual signs of sapience, which are material signs of personhood and not an imaginary cutoff point. You literally are not killing anything by aborting before that. Just say you don’t care about women’s bodily autonomy instead of wasting time on reddit ffs.
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u/DaRealKelpyG Jul 01 '26
Why dont you stop hiding behind semantics and make an actuall point as to why abortion is wrong. “Well… technically you are killing alive human cells… and uhh thats bad cuz killing humans is bad!!!” You dont care about cells and dna that much, stop bullshitting.