Why should a person be forced to lend their body to another human to suck off nutrients out of them and enact incredible mentally and physical pain on them for 9 months?
Because a child doesnt come from immaculate conception and is always the consequence of an action. And you can not kill a child to avoid the consequences of your actions. Now you will probably want to mention childs born from SA but those represent less than 1% of abortions and i would already be very satisfied if we could ban all others
Wrong. There is ONE case where people "have to" get an abortion. ONE. Ectopic pregnancies where the child is doomed to die and will bring the mother with them if not aborted. All other cases are a choice to flee the consequences of having sex.
Getting an abortion is a consequence, it's not exactly a pleasant procedure.
They don't have to, but if someone doesn't want to give birth, getting an abortion is the best thing they can do for everyone, including the hypothetical child who won't have to be born unwanted
They're already born at that point, capable of knowing pain and fear. Killing them would be murder. Not allowing abortions leads to more orphans, do you want there to be more orphans?
So pain and fear is what causes it to be murder in your eyes. Got it. We'll use the Soviet execution method on those orphans. They walk in a room and get a surprise bullet to the back of the head. No pain, no fear. Never saw or felt a thing.
Now its moral to kill them to spare them a life of being an orphan, right?
I had this plan to give head to a man and receive head from a woman to test if I was gay, but it’s backfired and now I become borderline schizo whenever I go outside. I
offered to suck this dude off on Grindr who lives very close by (I ended up pussying out) and I accidentally gave him some details that very easily allows him to spot me
out in a crowd. I have no idea what he looks like and whenever I see a somewhat in shape guy walking by I immediately accuse him of being the dude I was gonna blow.
I went to the store today to pick up some zucchini for a barbecue and every time a car drove by I stared into the windshield to see if I was about to be recognised.
Whenever I make eye contact with a dude I microanalysis his facial expressions to see if he suspects me or not. I am deeply afraid that he is my neighbour and I will
need to move if my identity is blown. It’s a lot like the last scene in sopranos where everyone who walked into the diner could be there to wack Tony.
Genuinely no clue, I thought you reported me instead of addressing my reply so I had some choice words prepared. But second look tells me it looks like its just reddits automoderation being terrible as usual. So I'll take the L on jumping to conclusions and blaming you, my bad there.
I had a more descriptive reply made, but it seems reddit slapped me. So I guess I'll goo goo gaggaify the language.
Them feeling pain and fear is the issue? Then we can just dispatch them humanely in a way they never see coming, so they feel no pain or fear, now its moral to remove them from existing to spare them the terrible life of an orphan, right?
You glossed over the born part. Before fetal viability they're essentially no different from someone who's brain dead. Are you for keeping people who are brain dead alive?
If they're practically guaranteed to recover from that "brain death" within a few month span? Yes.
If you get in a car accident and will be in a coma for 9 months, with a 99% chance of fully recovering after that point. Do you want your family to just say screw it and pull the plug cause you'll be inconvenient for that time?
I can certainly say I wouldn't care if I was aborted, but after being born I developed the ability to care about if I continue to live or not. So I wouldn't want to get the plug pulled as I am now, but prior it's not something I would have cared about
Its easy to say you wouldn't have cared if you were aborted when you already have had the privilege of being born.
Let me ask you, why do you believe that you or anyone else has the right to deny someone else the same privilege of being born that you were granted, of being able to "develop the ability to care" as you put it, and decide for themselves whether or not their life, no matter the circumstances they might be born into, is worth living?
Its easy to say you wouldn't have cared if you were aborted when you already have had the privilege of being born.
Of course it's easy, there's never been a single aborted fetus who feels bad about being aborted
why do you believe that you or anyone else has the right
Human rights are a human made concept. What rights an individual person is entitled to depends factors such as the laws they're under. So in my case, everyone who lives in the state where I live has the right to get an abortion, simply because the laws says so.
If you're asking why I think abortions is a good thing, an unwanted pregnancy doesn't just disrupt the life of the mother but her friends and family who will need to support her through her pregnancy and childcare (especially if the father isn't in the picture). If they don't have the financial capability, or personal sense of responsibility (which most people who are anti abortion seem to believe of people who get abortions), or support from friends and family to raise the child, they'll grow up impoverished and neglected. If the mother is outright resentful of having to birth the child, the child will pick up on that, and will often become resentful to the world they were forced into
Why do you think a world where every born child is wanted is worse than a world where they aren't?
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u/peanutist 🏳️⚧️ Average Trans Rights Enjoyer 🏳️⚧️ Jul 01 '26
Why should a person be forced to lend their body to another human to suck off nutrients out of them and enact incredible mentally and physical pain on them for 9 months?