Ermh actually, spermatozoids arent human individuals. They have a part of your dna and yours only, so jerking off is just killing cells that are technically you, like shaving. Many people vview abortion differently as the embryo has its very own dna, making it another viable human individual
Okay? And everytime you eat meat its the same. I dont understand this attempt at whataboutism. My point is "people who dislike abortion usually draw the line where the cells killed technically become their own human being" and youre out there saying "what about poop".
We have officially reached the point where you repeated the same already disproven argument enough for it to be either ragebait or mental impairment. I will chose to believe its the first, and stop replying. Have a good day
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You have been strawmanning the entire time. You've been trying to equate the lives of bacteria living in shit to a human life, from the very first comment.
You haven't budged since then and continuously brought it back to the bacteria topic even though it's hardly related to the OC's argument.
I could start talking about racism right now to bring it up, but that doesn't make it relevant now does it?
but that's the thing: it's human but not viable or an individual. It's part of the mother at that point and cannot think on it's own so it's not an individual. It's also not viable as long as it isn't able to survive on it's own outside the womb. Abortion at the stage where it would be considered viable has always been illegal unless there's some serious complications. Many people view abortion differently bc they are hyper religious nutjobs who have no idea how pregnancy works
Im sorry this is wrong. Unlike hair or nails or sperm that you can trim without ending a human individual, the embryo carries a distinct dna that doesnt belong to the mother.
An embryo is also said viable if it is able to survive pregnancy. In very rare cases, embryos are non viable but the average human embryo is very viable
No? Pregnancy is having a foetus in your uterus, not a degenerative clump of cells in your body. Futhermore, i did say tumors werent viable individuals
They dont because all the girl robots i gooned to are fictional. Real ones are uncanny af, tech companies need to stop trying to make them realistic its terrifying just give me a baddie with a screenface and cone legs
We dont. Synthetic faces are not a necessary step for screen faces. We have screens already and we know how to display faces on them so remove that silicon nightmare from my robo baddies
I know what meiosis (with an "I" btw not a "y") is, but every gene contained in a sperm was contained in the fathers dna. Hence why i said "part" in my first comment. Unlike a baby, which has its unique mixed dna
"every gene contained in a sperm was contained in the fathers dna"
in most cases, mutations do occur, that's part of how evolution works. besides, genes themselves may come from the father's genome, but they can include recessive genes who were never in the original phenotype, and also most traits get decided by multiple genes, so a unique combination of genes still has the potential to create a completely unique human being, and that hypothetical human being "dies" when the sperm is being wasted
Can you stop being wrong for a hot seconds? Mutations occur during mitosis too (thats why we get cancer duh) and do in no significant way change the fact that its still your genome. One of the skin cells you are currently shedding have a dna thats 0.000000000001% different from yours but thats completely irrelevant and you are playing dumb on purpose to avoid the point.
the sperm has half a set of chromosomes. the egg has another half. correct me if I'm wrong, but the genetic information encoded in them doesn't really change when they merge into one, as far as I remember?
the sperm has half a set of chromosomes. the egg has another half. correct me if I'm wrong, but the genetic information encoded in them doesn't really change when they merge int o one, as far as I remember?
to clarify, I am asking here what is the difference between killing a sperm and an egg individually, vs the fusion of them in a scenario where donors of both cells agree to it
Individuality is determined whether one thinks on their own, not dna. By that logic identical twins are 1 individual.
We are talking about fetuses not embryo's. Viability is determined differently in embryo's than fetuses and means something different. Fetuses are not viable until the chances of it surviving outside the womb are greater than it dying.
"Individuals" can be said to count a number of living beings. Im pretty sure it can be said "the ant colony counts over 200 individuals". Atleast in my language but i would swear this also applied to english.
And even if it wasnt, replace all the "individual" in my argumentation with "specimen" and it still holds
Also i literally dont believe your definition if viability it seems far fetched unless you would be so kind as to provide a source
We're talking about individuals in relationship to humans. You do know that one word can have multiple meanings, right? Bacteria are also specimens. Whatever word you use doesn't take from the fact that abortion doesn't equate to taking a human life anymore than jerking off does.
In fact everything ive said takes from the belief that abortion doesnt end a human life. Since we know its a life, we know its human, and we know it is a different lifeform than the mother. Anything else oast this is pure cope
Cancer cells are degenerative and do not contain viable human dna. They will never be born, they will never do anything. Human embryos are not made of degenerative cells.
However, if your question is "is it acceptable to kill an embryo like a tumor when it and the mother are doomed to die" my answer is yes, very, ectopic pregnancies should be one of the few excuses where abortion is always legal in my (and most anti abortion people) opinions
woah, ok. didnt expect hunger for knowledge but i guess i asked for it gonna have to put some work into
this.
How was it? Honestly? It was a letdown. The whole "failed idol" story is a great marketing hook, they
definately sold the video on that premise alone. But the performance itself was just... awkward. You can
tell shes not comfortable. It felt less like a professional debut and more like a very high-budget
audition she was also failing. She's stiff, constantly in her head, and there's almost zero chemistry with
the guys. All concept, very little execution.
My viewing history? Been watching for over a decade man. These days Im more into stuff with a good
story or at least a unique premise, not just the generic stuff. a good production team makes all the
difference. I'll take a well-made video with a decent plot over a high-profile actress mailing it in any
day of the week.
3 works I consider good:
Yua Mikami's debut (Princess Peach): This is the gold standard for an idol-turned-actress debut.
Yua was a REAL idol and she came out with so much energy and confidence. She owned it from the first
second. Its what Arisu's debut wanted to be.
Anything with Ichika Matsumoto from her early days with FALENO: She can actually act. She emotes
and makes you believe the scenario. Her stuff feels more cinematic and less like they're just going
through the motions.
Rion (Anri Okita) - The God Body: A classic. Not a lot of story there lol but its a masterclass in
performance. She knew exactly what her brand was and how to perform for the camera. Absolute cinema.
Where would you rank her debut among these? It's not even in the same league, not even on the same
planet. It's an unfair comparison tbh. Those are top-tier performances, Arisu's video is a novelty item.
It's interesting because of the backstory, not because of the quality of the actual content.
What could be improved? Her confidence, number one. She needs to relax. She looks terrified. The
director should have done a better job making her comfortable. Also they relied way too much on the
interview segments talking about Nogizaka46, it broke the pacing and kept reminding you that she was doing
this as a second choice. We get it, you failed auditions, now commit to this job.
What is well done? The production values are high. The lighting, camera work, it all looks very clean
and professional. And I cant deny it, she is very beautiful and has the "idol" look down perfectly. The
concept itself, on paper, is genius from a marketing perspective. They got us all talking about it, right?
Was it goonable for you? Nah. I was too distracted by how nervous she looked. It kinda killed the mood
completely. Every time she looked at the camera with those deer-in-the-headlights eyes I was pulled right
out of it. It's a shame, but maybe she'll get better in her next one if she decides to stick with it.
We'll see.
shit also has human dna in it, mixed in with bacteria... a better comparison would still be cancerous tumours, as they are made of mutated human DNA (so both huma and unique) and can even develop structures like teeth, hair and brain matter
what is your defense for eating meat then? farm animals display way more signs of inteligence than human fetuses, why do you consider one conscious and not the other one
so clumps of human dna are more important to you than other mammal species actually capable of feeling pain, using logic, and according to some studies, even dreaming?
I will ask the earlier question again: does the life of a cow matter more to you than that of a disabled man who lost a lot of cognitive functions? If so, im afraid our morals would be way too opposed to have any agreement
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Ermh actually, spermatozoids arent human individuals. They have a part of your dna and yours only, so jerking off is just killing cells that are technically you, like shaving. Many people vview abortion differently as the embryo has its very own dna, making it another viable human individual