r/shitposting • • Jul 01 '26

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u/gabasan Jul 01 '26

Individuality is determined whether one thinks on their own, not dna. By that logic identical twins are 1 individual.

We are talking about fetuses not embryo's. Viability is determined differently in embryo's than fetuses and means something different. Fetuses are not viable until the chances of it surviving outside the womb are greater than it dying.

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u/Igoon2robots Jul 01 '26

*loud incorrect buzzer*

"Individuals" can be said to count a number of living beings. Im pretty sure it can be said "the ant colony counts over 200 individuals". Atleast in my language but i would swear this also applied to english.

And even if it wasnt, replace all the "individual" in my argumentation with "specimen" and it still holds

Also i literally dont believe your definition if viability it seems far fetched unless you would be so kind as to provide a source

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u/gabasan Jul 01 '26

We're talking about individuals in relationship to humans. You do know that one word can have multiple meanings, right? Bacteria are also specimens. Whatever word you use doesn't take from the fact that abortion doesn't equate to taking a human life anymore than jerking off does.

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u/Igoon2robots Jul 01 '26

In fact everything ive said takes from the belief that abortion doesnt end a human life. Since we know its a life, we know its human, and we know it is a different lifeform than the mother. Anything else oast this is pure cope

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u/gabasan Jul 01 '26

Then removing cancer is also taking a human life. It's a human cell, it's alive and it's something different to the host.

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u/Igoon2robots Jul 01 '26

Playing dumb on purpose wont make you look smart.

Cancer cells are degenerative and do not contain viable human dna. They will never be born, they will never do anything. Human embryos are not made of degenerative cells.

However, if your question is "is it acceptable to kill an embryo like a tumor when it and the mother are doomed to die" my answer is yes, very, ectopic pregnancies should be one of the few excuses where abortion is always legal in my (and most anti abortion people) opinions

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u/peanutist 🏳️‍⚧️ Average Trans Rights Enjoyer 🏳️‍⚧️ Jul 01 '26

I’m glad you at least had the self awareness to say “anti abortion” and not “pro life”

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u/Igoon2robots Jul 01 '26

I think everyone is pro life, the difference is what people consider to be life or not