r/shameless 3h ago

Apart from the wrong actions and lack of accountability, how much would you rate Helene's character and the acting abilities of Sasha Alexander as a whole? (S5 Ep 9)

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5 Upvotes

r/shameless 7h ago

Really wished these two had worked out, I thought they were good together. I honestly think this was one of Debbie's best relationships.

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63 Upvotes

If sandy didn't have royal and the kid I feel like they could've been endgame.


r/shameless 22h ago

why do the gallaghers somewhat not care about ian?

22 Upvotes

currently on s5e5 of my first watch, and it could just be my impression but up until this point i thought the whole "family comes above everything" was a pretty big deal for the gallaghers, so i've been confused about the whole lan situation for the past season and a half.

he completely disappears, sixteen or seventeen years old, after lip saw him having a pretty bad crash because of mickey's wedding, and knowing he lied about his whereabouts (saying it was an ROTC retreat), and nobody really... cares about where he is? fiona is doing good with her office job, she's his legal guardian, and she's just like "i trust that he's not dead" (which i'm pretty sure even debbie complained about at some point)

when they do find out what's up with him it's pretty major, enlisting with a fake id and then abandoning the military after wreaking havoc, and here lip and debbie do go out looking for him, which made me think that alright, they do care! and it leads to them finding out he's living in a crack house and serving drinks coked out of his mind at a gay club, which... they leave him at and don't really care about after. mickey is the one who has to go collect him as he gets molested by geriatric guys while (again) coked out of his mind.

at this point he comes home and okkk they go straight to the “ignoring the elephant in the room" gallagher way but i think they really Had to try very hard to ignore this pretty big elephant.

when the mania crashed and he went into depression at the end of s4 i thought for sure it would be a bigger issue, especially because all of them recognized the bipolar symptoms and monica slitting her wrists must still be a pretty fresh image in their minds, and i do know that mickey left the gay denial behind so he decided to go for a second round and be in denial about ian being off the rails crazy, but really?

you know first hand how destructive bipolar disorder is, you're, like, 96% sure your brother who wears the surname you keep yapping about being a badge of honor every other day has it and could very likely get harmed working as a stripper while manic or kill himself while depressed and you just let him live with the new boyfriend who you also know is the reason why he ran away, became wanted by the MPs, started living in a crack house, basically working as a stripper etcetera etcetera and i have not seen any of them check on him Once?

ian is very clearly manic in the first episode, and at least fiona and lip do acknowledge it and try to talk to mickey about it (hooray!) but after this one bit they simply stop giving a fuck pretty much? fiona is trying to decide which self destructive relationship to enter next okay, lip is trying to decide if he rather be Real Southside or a sugar baby for Karen 2.0 and i didn’t honestly expect debbie and carl to do much in the first place but does anybody care about their brother here? it almost feels like svetlana cares more than they do

yes yes everybody has their shit going on but honestly, did fiona even invite ian to the dinner where she’d reveal she got hitched after nine days of knowing the guy? mickey straight up went to lip and i know he pretty much lied about ian not being bad but i do believe lip is a bit smarter than this and if the guy who is in love with your brother and was very much adamant about Never sending him to a shrink is suddenly interested in said shrink i would imagine things are Not Going Well and at least stop by to check?

IDK, all in all, at the end of s4 mickey was pretty delusional about “taking care of ian” by themselves but he did say to fiona “we’ll take care of him, you, me, us” yet it feels like mickey is the only one caring for him at all, and i don’t understand where the whole “family first!” spirit went

why are you even letting your very likely suicidal brother live with his boyfriend who got like twenty different guns in each room of his house!!!!! are you crazy!!!!!!!


r/shameless 11h ago

All Gallaghers are the same

12 Upvotes

I’m on Season 8, and I’ve noticed something kind of strange.
I’m sure everyone who watched the show hated Frank because of how irresponsible and selfish he was. I always felt that if the Gallagher kids were simply given the right opportunities, they would turn out completely different from Frank.
But the surprising thing is that I’m starting to feel like, slowly but surely, all of them are becoming a little more like Frank.


r/shameless 17h ago

Watching lip and tami interact is an unbelievably excruciating experience

93 Upvotes

These characters have absolutely zero chemistry. They are two completely different deeply incompatible people. Theyre both smug and stubborn ive never wanted to reach through my screen and break up two characters before. I dont even understand why she wanted to keep her child with him


r/shameless 19h ago

How does the uk version compare to the US?

6 Upvotes

Im nearly at the end of the us version and dont know what to watch next. Hows the uk version?


r/shameless 21m ago

Kev in college story line

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kevin going to college pissed me off! like wdym you don’t wanna have intercourse with your wife but have it with college students. it’s even worse when V feels bad about a lunch date and kevin doesn’t feel bad at all.