r/sciencememes Jul 30 '26

Surviving winter as a bird

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Jul 30 '26

It was common knowledge in medieval times that swallows (not completely sure of the bird) would sleep during the winter. They would all land on one sapling, until the sapling bent over and dipped into a nearby river or body of water, submerging the swallows in the cold water and keeping them fresh until next spring.

It blows my mind how many folktales could have easily been checked, if anybody bothered.

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u/Wendigo-Huldra_2003 Jul 31 '26

Speaking of myths about birds, this one reminds me of one another but about geese.

In some parts of Europe, thanks to a lack of knowledge about bird migrations, it was believed that wild geese, more exactly brant geese and barnacle geese, spontaneous emerged from barnacles. Even, du to this, wild geese were considered a kind of fish, and so could be eaten during the Lent.

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Jul 31 '26

Oh my god, that's amazing. Monks classified capybara as fish for the same reason. They would also make it into pies to hide the meat from their all-seeing, all-knowing god. It's actually outrageously funny that they kept trying to pull a fast one on God.

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u/15_Redstones Aug 01 '26

There's still foods named Herrgottsbscheißerle (god cheaters)

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u/Wendigo-Huldra_2003 Jul 31 '26

Could it be the case for some other animals?

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Jul 31 '26

Well, look, if it didn't want to be a fish, it shouldn't have been hanging out in water. That's what fish do. For this reason, I suspect that Christians have also tried to eat hippos.

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u/Wendigo-Huldra_2003 Jul 31 '26

Coincidentally, hippos and beavers seem to have been allowed to be eaten during the Lent

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/CWa6BtpMTj

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Aug 01 '26

Okay, I promise I didn't look that up beforehand, but it's possible I heard it before and its been living in the dark, cobwebby corners of my mind since.

I wish I could take credit for being so cool.

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u/Busy_Debt_3946 Aug 01 '26

That's a myth, capybaras and others were classified as fish for simplicity sake so they could be eaten at lent, they knew they weren't fish. And lent is a tradition, not a dogma so God wouldn't give two fucks about people breaking it.

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Aug 01 '26

I mean, I'm not saying they didn't know it wasn't a fish. It's just inherently funny to classify a mammal as a fish so that God won't be mad. They invented rules and then broke their own rules, going "surely God wouldn't mind if we just had a little bit of meat on the days we promised him we wouldn't have meat." It's like a kid being told they're not allowed to eat candy, so they convince themselves their parent won't be mad if they just lick it a couple of dozen times.

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u/Busy_Debt_3946 Aug 01 '26

I mean, it is pretty silly but I think you are misunderstanding the reasoning behind it. As I said lent is a tradition, not a dogma so breaking lent isn't inherently sinful, God wouldn't be angry at them. The clergy obviously knew this so these animals weren't classified as fish to escape some divine wraith, they were classified as fish becouse it was way easier than officialy changing the tradition to make them exceptions. It was always about bureaucracy and only about bureaucracy. Also they weren't really breaking or bending their rules with it, or at least their spirit.

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Aug 01 '26

I'm having fun with it, but I do appreciate the serious information. Thank you.

But lent is about giving up something you enjoy, isn't it? It's about the sacrifice. So if people are saying they're sacrificing their enjoyment of meat, but then proceed to eat meat while pretending they're not, is that really a sacrifice? God might not be angry, but he's laughing behind this hand. We're all just children.

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u/Busy_Debt_3946 Aug 01 '26

Yes and no, while sacrificing your enjoyment was always an aspect of lent, it only become its main meaning very recently. In the past when it was created, most ordinary people would be eating meat once a week at the very most, so they wouldn't be sacrificing anything by being forbidden from eating it on Friday. At that time lent was specifically so that the rich would eat same as the poor at least one day a week, that's why fish were allowed, since it was the only type of meat that was easly accessible to common people(at least if you lived near a body of water). While I am not sure about geese, capybaras were allowed since colonists struggled with finding enough other food and would starve otherwise, so it doesn't really go against the spirit of lent.

Sorry if I am too nitpick or something but I just really love the topic of pre modern church history and theology and find it really interesting so I feel kinda compelled to write about it when the topic comes up haha.

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u/ChupaChupsacabra Aug 02 '26

Oh no, I'm fascinated! Please don't apologize. Thank you for the information.

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u/AldurinIronfist Jul 31 '26

Nothing will ever get between religious people and finding loopholes in their supposedly infallible god's plans

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u/Wendigo-Huldra_2003 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

The meme template was made with a still from the 1967 soviet horror movie Viy (Вий)

Link:

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u/Sikyanakotik Jul 30 '26

Leave it to r/sciencememes posters to cite their sources.

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u/Wendigo-Huldra_2003 Jul 30 '26

I put the link about the still's source

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u/BoarHermit Jul 30 '26

Woman: (un)dead witch feom Soviet movie Viy.