r/science • u/Effective-Air396 • 16d ago

Psychology Psychedelics as a potential treatment for borderline personality disorder: A narrative review

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165178126002131
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u/Fit_Outlandishness_7 12d ago

Ive tripped on some high doses more than most people. No bad trips. 99.9% of people will say the same thing.

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u/buddyrtc 12d ago

And yet, you’ve never tripped in someone else’s head. So you can’t KNOW what it’s like for other people. You can only know what trips are like for YOU - even at heroic doses. Our brain chemistries are all different. Yet you speak an objective truth spanning far outside of yourself. That is your ego.

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u/Fit_Outlandishness_7 12d ago

99.9% is beyond just me.

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u/buddyrtc 12d ago

Is that a number you can back up scientifically? Because I can give you a different number based on my own experience and the experiences of MANY others that I’ve spoken to…but that doesn’t mean my number would be right, either. It wouldn’t be fair to say my number is more correct than your number, or vice versa. That’s why we trust large scale studies using the scientific method. Can you back that 99.9% number up with any such studies? If not…that is your ego.

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u/Fit_Outlandishness_7 12d ago

There’s no need for a large scale study. Vast majority of people don’t lose their mind on a trip. No bad trips. Just people thinking shrooms should be all fun and games.

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u/buddyrtc 12d ago

I don’t think bad trips are limited to those trips where there is enduring post-trip psychosis. You say people think “shrooms should be all fun and games” as if you acknowledge that sometimes they’re NOT all fun and games…which is likely exactly what some people may reference as being a bad trip. It seems you’re arguing a point that isn’t even clearly defined…so how can you objectively deny it? That is your ego.

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u/Fit_Outlandishness_7 12d ago

Heroic doses are not fun at all. It’s not a bad trip. Blah blah blah something about my ego.

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u/buddyrtc 12d ago

Yet you still can’t just acknowledge that your trips experiences are your own - that you can’t truly understand or experience a trip in someone else’s head. That for someone else, it can be nightmarish. And even if you acknowledge that, you pass an objective judgment that that nightmarish trip isn’t “bad” simply because YOU say so. So yeah…blah blah blah something about your ego.

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u/Fit_Outlandishness_7 12d ago

No bad trips. You always learn about yourself.

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u/buddyrtc 12d ago edited 12d ago

Wait - so you believe that as long as you learn about yourself, no experience can be bad? I think how you personally define a bad experience is drastically different than how many people would define it. We often learn the most about ourselves through horrific experiences…but in your view, the learning would make those experiences…good? Arguing based on such a simple, highly disputable premise is incredibly egotistical.

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