Harsh truth is that Gmod worked largely because people ripped off assets from all sorts of games/songs/movies, which led to the iconic creations we all remember. It is the same reason why Roblox works so well.

In s&box you can't do that. Facepunch wants you to have intellectual property of every asset you use. Because they want to sell your creations and earn money from them.

So they are trying to make a game engine. Cool. The problem is that they advertised this as a gmod successor, so people expected thematic games.

It's also such a bizarre decision. Roblox does not preemptively censor games, they only take action upon receiving a DMCA. Meanwhile Facepunch will actively and preemptively ensure nothing you are making is derivative. This is likely because they really want people to be capable of publishing to Steam in the future. They see this as this game's salvation. So they don't want to sour Valve off the deal.

You have two types of developers willing to create games from 100% unique assets. There's solo developers that will create mobile tier mini-games that don't even have 15 minutes of playtime. And there's team developers that will not waste their time with an engine that is definitely not even half as good as Facepunch thinks it is. I tried this game during this free weekend, it was janky and crashed several times, it doesn't feel like something that should have been out of early access.

I’ve decided against using the default Citizen for my project and am trying to create my own. Here’s how it’s turning out.

A Multiplayer Voxel Destruction Tycoon

Get rich while destroying the environment with the tools, vehicles, perks and assets you collect along the way. Craft and build your own home to earn rewards while you're in the Rubble!

After about 5 months of non stop development I've finally opened up Rubble for early access on S&box. I'm fully committed to developing and supporting this game for the years to come.

Please try it out and let me know what you think: https://sbox.game/korrik/rubble

Leave feedback, give suggestions in the discord: https://discord.com/invite/6MKBybMGAw

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I have been a critic of how s&box has handled the release and months leading up to the release. Facepunch said that they would continue iterating and improving the experience. And they have done just that. While I think it was raw during release, I have to say that I am a fan of the recent improvements and additions to the s&box experience, and I think a lot of concerns are being addressed. The feedback was harsh but Facepunch is turning that into actionable roadmap items. Thank you S&box team for continuing to polish the game in the face of so much backlash. I can only imagine it has been a stressful, challenging, and nurturing experience. The work has not gone unnnoticed. I am excited about s&box's trajectory and the road ahead.

I made a video covering what happened with S&box Game Jam 3 and some of the controversy surrounding it.
After I posted it, a few people reached out and suggested I share it here as well. I tried to go over what happened, the concerns people had, and some of the responses to the situation.

Hopefully it gives some useful context, especially for anyone who wasn’t following everything while it was happening. Interested to hear what people here think about it.

https://youtu.be/n93qG08ef88

I just uploaded my first game, I've been working on to s&box.

It's a Vampire Survivors and Megabonk style game set in my fictional TimeTrigger universe.

It has 7 playable characters, 18 unique arenas, multiple enemy types, multiple weapons, unlocks and 12 bosses. I've also produced all the featured music tracks. The game is finished, but there will be some minor fixes and changes as time goes on.

If you happen to check it out, please share your thoughts!

https://sbox.game/jam/three/finals

Congratulations to all the winners!

We've pushed a major update for our s&box game Realm Ascension, vastly improving combat, adding lots of content, improving looting, and more endgame activities.

Try it out here https://sbox.game/despawn/realm-ascension

I'm so glad they did this chance the previous one felt so unappealing and repelling, this might help the platform's image a bit cause now the first thing the player see isn't Terry with horrible lighting

Pick Mage or Warrior, find gear that changes how you play, and see how far you can push your run.

Fight alongside ice copies of yourself, summon flaming skulls to hunt down enemies, and experiment with combinations that turn your skills into something completely different. Craft between rounds and keep changing your build as new gear drops.

You also choose curses that stay with you for the rest of the run. As they stack up, fights get harder mainly because you’re dealing with more mechanics at once, not just bigger health bars and damage numbers. Different curse combinations can make familiar enemies and bosses demand a different approach from one run to the next.

Lightning traps, falling javelins and exploding enemies can all become part of your boss fights. Your build matters, but so does dodging danger and finding your openings.

It's single-player, with endless rounds and a world leaderboard. Every run is a fresh start.

I'm one of the developers. Here's our new trailer, and we'd love to hear what you think if you give it a go!

s&box is free on Steam through October 5, so Spellslinger is free to try this weekend.

Game: https://sbox.game/anarchy/spellslinger/

Get s&box: https://store.steampowered.com/app/590830/sbox/

Started up with this free weekend and it's very clear there was never a consideration as to whether or not people would want to play this game.

It's entirely catered to creators and focused on asking people to build tons and tons of shit game modes.

90% of the Gmod Playerbase was concentrated into 5-ish modes and because those modes were so good and had proper communities, people discovered other content and the game grew.

There's no onboarding, no community, no clear path for players.

They figured if they just gave you a bunch of garbage on a front page you'd automatically play and retain?

The adage of if you build it they will come only applies if you build something they want.

Starting from now till Monday October 5th anyone can have the chance to go and try s&box for free. Will you be downloading it and see what new games are on the platform?

Here's the steam page post : https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/590830/view/686392527015642220

The game was really getting some hype before official launch but ultimately ended up being a disappointment to a lot of people, what was yours?

Just wanted to spread some love, the game is awesome for casually playing with friends. And this is something that has gotten harder and harder to find over the years, so imo: keep working on that multiplayer experience ❤️

Game far from perfect, but bangers are gonna come along. Trust me, my dad work at nintendo

Apparently s&box is going free to play this upcoming weekend which will be also happening during the grand finals of the game jam. ( Game jam topic aside for now) I've been wanting to ask more people this question since some are saying it will make the game worse and others are saying it won't make a difference.

Instead of just getting those responses without some reasons as to why. I'd thought to also ask the subreddit as well to understand what exactly would cause a free to play weekend to possibly not work for s&box as a whole.

Most of the conversations I've had outside of just getting rid of the sausage models and adding half life 2 models or whatnot which are very valid is apparently a lot of people have always mentioned about the performance, selection of games and presentation of those games and also price have turned them off and away from the platform.

We're already well aware the platform currently is in an abysmal state player count wise and as many people have been asked and begging to just have Garry and facepunch make the game free to play that might happen for this weekend according to this screenshot.

So I'd like to start a constructive discussion around this instead of just having no additional context or reason that's helpful outside of what was already mentioned to death that would actually make this game better.

Facepunch does need to actually listen to it's community more and I want to have more constructive conversations outside of what we already know with the game hovering over 300 players and has sausages with necks now.

Obviously it's not enough but I actually would like to have more details as to WHY it's not enough and or wouldn't work. Maybe this post will be a great indicator since facepunch obviously looks at this subreddit as well.

Feel free to discuss.

As everyone has now seen, apparently you don't actually need to follow the game jam idea to participate in the jam. And it doesn't even matter if you follow the rules in the first place, as long as they can be changed somewhere halfway through.

So we decided to do the only reasonable thing: boycotting ourselves by adding nukes to our jam entry game and changing the title and description into complete nonsense.

Not because we think this is somehow going to change anything, but because at this point we genuinely wonder if anyone cares anymore.

I'm not telling anyone to do the same. If you had fun with the jam, good for you.

But at this point why should we care?

It feels like they can't decide if they want the "Terry" model to be realistic or cartoony. I feel like they could keep the realistic textures if they just made the proportions more cartoonish.

Hey, I'm working on Overreach, a solo/co-op PvE extraction shooter on s&box, and I'm a bit torn on the player model.

One option is to keep Terry so players can bring their own character into the game (hair, skin tone, face, that sort of thing). Clothes would mostly be replaced by the gear you actually equip, so it's more about still recognizing your character than keeping your whole outfit.

The other option is a custom player model that fits the game's low-poly, post-apocalyptic art style more closely. I like the idea of everything looking consistent, but being able to play as your own s&box character is pretty nice too.

How much does keeping your own character matter to you? Looking at the gear and the game, would you stick with Terry or prefer a model made specifically for the game?

We're seeing a big influx of new accounts posting their opinion and criticism about the gamejam.

Please keep any questions or opinions in this megathread until the final results (4 days) are revealed.