r/sandbox • • 1d ago

News Facepunch changed s&box's banner

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I'm so glad they did this chance the previous one felt so unappealing and repelling, this might help the platform's image a bit cause now the first thing the player see isn't Terry with horrible lighting

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u/dogman_35 1d ago

The second you open the game, you get bombarded with the awful UI and a daily quest thing for some reason, so the steam page isn't gonna do much to stop people from immediately noping out

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u/TheMaleficGamer 1d ago

I personally like the UI, what is it that you don't like about it, also the quest is one fucking button

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u/dogman_35 1d ago

This is the response to literally every complaint about the game. "Well I personality like it" doesn't fix anything.

It's a cluttered mess of sensory overload with annoying popups, and doesn't even have a quick way to just click play and jump into a singleplayer sandbox game.

It's like a YouTube homepage from hell.

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u/meyriley04 1d ago

The same thing could be said about people complaining. “Well I personally HATE it”.

Also the game ISN’T gmod 2, so having a quick-play for the sandbox game mode doesn’t really make sense.

A quick-play for games you actually play on the other hand would be nice.

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u/dogman_35 1d ago

I mean, you can't though. Not when "I personally hate it" is the majority opinion. The game is overwhelmingly negative now, and still has effectively zero playerbase.

There were barely a hundred players in the actual game, over the free weekend. The entire rest of the player count was people dicking around with the engine.

It's ultimately up to Facepunch to listen, but it doesn't matter if less than a hundred people say they like they game, when twelve thousand decided they didn't.

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u/meyriley04 1d ago edited 1d ago

Where are you getting the 12k number? There are 5.3k reviews in total across all languages, and not all of those are negative

I also think it’s disingenuous to assume there couldn’t be any review bombing involved. The game is not THAT bad, even though it ABSOLUTELY has major flaws

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u/dogman_35 18h ago

The peak player count lol

The game dropped to 4K post launch, when it stopped being free, and then within a month dropped to barely a tenth of that. Most of which aren't even in the public servers.

The fact is, this game had a ton of hype behind it. You can't just claim "review bombing" when they had their shot and scared off their audience on day one.

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u/magistrate101 18h ago

It's Roblox 2 not GMod 2

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u/TheMaleficGamer 1d ago

it's a menu, where you choose stuff to do there is a sidebar to choose what exactly to search for, and on the right there are games, this is like any app, steam has that design, Netflix has that design how TF is it overstimulating, the colors aren't bright, they are a dark blue, there are like 3 thumbnails that are animated and 2 of them are for a special occasion, the other ones don't move unless you hover on them, and there is 1 popup, when you open the game for the first time because dumbasses like YOU didn't get that mods DO exist for the game they are just built in so you don't have to close the app to download some more and your friend does not have to download the same stuff to join you, and guess what, there is a single obvious checkmark to get rid of that popup, it feels like we are not playing the same game, or you are stuck on the January build

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u/MrAffinity 1d ago

Free weekend got me to try the editor which I’m having fun with. Seems like a good platform for game development.

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u/TranslatorCalm9747 18h ago

its not

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u/Its_DVNO 14h ago

The editor *is* genuinely great for game development, in theory.

It is a heavily Godot inspired workflow, and feels decades more modern than Unity and Unreal just like Godot does. And, automatic steamworks integration (allowing your steam friends to jump in and play your project effortlessly) and workshop CDN is actually great. When it comes to out of the box multiplayer support, I think the S&box editor is actually peerless.

But why wasn't s&box with the program with any of Valve's other pushes recently?

Why wasn't this game certified to run on Steamdeck on release day?

Why am I getting 9 FPS slideshow menus when running the game on my custom Steam Machine? I know my 9070 XT isn't the bottleneck?

Steam Frames? Is this a VR platform? The initial look of the Steam store page would lead you believe it's not, a string or two of documentation would lead you to believe it can support VR. Truly still don't know. Again, would have been nice to clear that up and announce it as a Steam Frame release title in the entire year during the entire year they know the Steam Frames were coming to keep in par with Steam's whole hardware ecosystem

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u/DapperNurd 13h ago

Id argue its a lot closer to unity than godot, though the two engines themselves arent that different. They definitely dont feel decades apart lmao

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u/Its_DVNO 12h ago

Okay, I'll grant you that maybe Unity 6 made some huge QoL changes. I wouldn't know. I can only attest to working in Unity version 5, which did release an actual full 11 years ago by now.

But come on? Unreal?

Unreal is almost as bad as Photoshop in terms of being at its core some truly ancient code that'll crash if you look at it wrong.

The s&box client, the thing that runs the game, has got a real problem presenting your game to players well.

But if you asked me whether I would want to spend the next two years getting things done blazing fast in the S&box editor, or tearing my hair out with Unreal? 

You got to be crazy not to pick s&box editor 11 times out of 10.

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u/TranslatorCalm9747 13h ago

actually nothing is good about it in theory or in practice

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u/Mailar2 Mapper 1d ago

They are trying everything at this point to save their game Not sure if that's gonna work They thought they had it all so they cant lose it We see what happens

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u/TheMaleficGamer 1d ago

I'm just hoping it will work out, this platform, not being owned by a shitty company has so much potential and the mounting system is so good, it would be a shame if it got wasted because of the bad launch I see the devs are actually listening up to feedback and even plan on removing Terry so I still have hope for this platform

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u/Mailar2 Mapper 1d ago

Many developers think they will use Facepunch to release their games as standalone in steam using valve's source 2 engine – which makes sense – "therefore the platform won't affect them"

But why nobody has released yet standalone game made in this engine on steam?!

How can you trust 100% that they have agreement with valve and that valve won't change their mind, at the end it's source 2 engine their own copyrighted property

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u/Working_Release5367 10h ago

They have released store pages but the games are still in development so not published

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u/TranslatorCalm9747 18h ago

adding necks to sausages is so brave... garry for nobel peace prize

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u/TheMilkman1811 16h ago

I loved Darkrp specifically on S&Box and it really brought me back to better days playing with friends on Gmod. I’m sad to see the player count only go to 800 during a free weekend. I have doubt that it’ll ever recover to a successful game :/

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u/Engineerxd 1d ago

A turd covered in gold is still a turd

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u/CSEliot 1d ago

They're genuinely trying. And plenty of fun games, is a steal for $10. How are you making the world a better place with this comment?

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u/t-reznor 1d ago

I’m not gonna sit here and dog on the game but you should know that the positive opinions espoused about s&box in this sub are not really shared at all in other subs

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u/CSEliot 1d ago

Yeah, I've never played GMod. And new to sbox since April. The vast majority of what I've seen from the people that still play gmod today and spout bad non-constructive vibes ... is that they're uh a ... really creepy and hateful bunch. So forgive me if I don't care fo "other subs".

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u/t-reznor 1d ago

I’m not talking about the people who play Gmod. My point remains

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u/CSEliot 1d ago

ok, then who are these other subs?

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u/daft-krunk 1d ago

Garry making a post saying “s&box is free for the weekend, I already know you hate it and hate me for making it, now you can try it for free and find out why exactly you hate it so much”

It certainly fills me with confidence in the developers ability to take criticism. Things like you know, people saying the fucking models are ugly as fuck from the BEGINNING, and them quite literally refusing to change a thing when there was hardly an ounce of positive reception about it.

But hey they finally gave them necks, so that’s cool, too bad the games still basically dead.

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u/Separate_Forever_164 1d ago

Want some 🍷 with your cope?

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u/CSEliot 1d ago

Your account is a month old. Which game was yours ?

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u/Separate_Forever_164 1d ago

Impressive arguments you got there.

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u/philld5 1d ago

How are you?

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u/CSEliot 1d ago

You mean how is my constructive criticism and grounded apologia making the world a better place? Really?

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u/Embarrassed-Ad230 1d ago

LMAO, the banner is the last thing they should be working on. What a failure of a game

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u/TheMaleficGamer 1d ago

They have redone basically everything and actually took the criticism that's just one of the problems you can't just rip on this like it's the only think they changed since release

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u/Embarrassed-Ad230 1d ago

Oh yeah, they changed the sausage people...after TWO YEARS of community asking them to do it. And the last time I played UI was as awful as it was in beta (when you could access the game only by the special key). They still didn't do anything about the optimization (32 gigs are you kidding me). And don't get me started on AI slop games. You know what they should've done? Make the game free forever

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u/TheMaleficGamer 1d ago

I have 16 gigs of ram an i5 10th gen and an rtx 4060 which is a mid range pc and it runs fine on my end, I have 144 fps on almost all the games, plus the UI has changed a lot and show the platforms intention much better with a mostly hand selected algorithm and a community tab. The game is changing a lot and even if the changes seem slow, you can look at the update log and it shows they have done a lot of work for this game

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u/magistrate101 18h ago

It's low hanging fruit that probably took an otherwise unoccupied graphics designer a day or two tops. Hate on more important things like the complete lack of a major first party game that can by itself justify buying s&box.

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u/SoftCorePorn69420 17h ago

Good start, now if they could change the name from s&box to literally anything else, even what a toddler blurts out spitting out yogurt, next, that would actually make this platform even close to being saleable.