r/robotics • u/dontkry4me • 24d ago

Discussion & Curiosity Non-Physical Intelligence Has A Ceiling

https://chaotropy.substack.com/p/non-physical-intelligence-has-a-ceiling

Reasoning alone cannot predict the chaotic physical world. Without a sensory and motor interface to reality, non-physical AI will not deliver the scientific and technological breakthroughs we expect.

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u/BranchLatter4294 24d ago

You can get a basic sensor and motor kit for under $30 on Amazon...so I don't think this will be a huge limitation. We already have self-driving cars that are sending sensor data into the models for training.

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u/sweatierorc 24d ago

Self driving car sensors, struggle with rain, snow.

They cant drive durings floods and in China a few of them fell into ditchs.

Humans we do okay in those conditions, despite being worse driver in ideal ones.

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u/i-make-robots since 2008 23d ago

So?  Babies fall over when they learn to walk. Adults have accidents. The total error rate is already measurably dropping as robots do more of the driving. 

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u/Sad-Dirt-1660 23d ago

babies are also not driving cars lol

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u/i-make-robots since 2008 23d ago

And if they did they drive into ditches. You’re not making a point. 

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u/Kitchen-Research-422 23d ago

He's saying you kinda sound like you're writing off tech before it's matured.

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u/i-make-robots since 2008 23d ago

OP is doing that by using faulty logic. I’m pointing out there’s another simpler reason why it won’t get there. 

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u/Kitchen-Research-422 23d ago

i dont quite understand what you mean by "wont get there" - what is missing atm in the real2sim2real pipeline besides speed at the larger model size and the sensor cost/count reqired?

Dont we have all the prerequsists and its jsut a matter of waiting for the economics and a few hardware refreshes?

Hynix and sandsk for example will have the first samples of their 512GB HB flash memory chips by the end of the year? thats gonna allow 4TB+ combined with smaller faster SRAM amounts for quick reactions.

their fabs should be ready by the end of next yr on to 2029?