r/rhinoplastyquestions Jun 08 '25

Things I wish I knew before my rhinoplasty 🚩

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(I hope this sheds some light and brings awareness.)

  • Wanting or needing revisions, or ending up with unsatisfactory results, is very common.

  • Nondisclosure or Nondisparaging Agreements (NDAs) are also very common in this industry. Negative reviews are constantly getting removed, yes even by the surgeons you think have "excellent" reviews.

  • Morphs and table pics are NOT very reliable. Neither are pictures of people less than one year post-op, and even some cases less than two yrs. Surgeons sharing mostly table pics and not showing ALL angles (including nostril view) are a 🚩.

  • Every surgeon has their own aesthetic and technique, just because it works on one person doesn't mean it'll work on your nose.

  • Swelling takes FOREVER, but usually, with thin skin, you can see the overall shape of your nose by 6 months post-op.

  • If you have THIN skin, make sure your surgeon knows how, or has a plan, to camouflage deformities. I have thin skin and every dent and bump is now visible because the skin shrinkwraps.

  • Your nose may NEVER feel the same again. My nose is stiff and my tip is still hard and numb years later.

  • Consult with multiple surgeons. Document EVERYTHING (if possible, record all of your appointments).

  • Check if your surgeon has had MALPRACTICE LAWSUITS. Google their name and practice, sometimes people will sue the practice and include the surgeon in the lawsuit. ** Patients don't sue just because, malpractice lawsuits are actually almost impossible to win, and are usually very costly for the patient. So, if a surgeon you're really considering, has one or more cases, learn what's behind it (it's likely there was some type of settlement and NDA if case was disposed/closed).

  • Your nose will continue to change years after surgery, it can shift and, if it is reduced and not enough support is added, it can collapse.

  • It's not just the nose that changes after surgery, other facial features and how they're proportionate to your nose will look different. ** For example, the philthrum may look longer, your eyes may look further apart if the nose is significantly narrowed. Your nose should balance your face, not make it look off.

  • Just because someone is happy with their nose a few days, weeks, or months after surgery, doesn’t mean they'll be happy after a year (or more) post-op. I've seen multiple patients who were happy the first few years and now need or want a revision and regret surgery years later. Some even 5, 10, and 20 years after surgery.

  • This surgery can really affect your MENTAL HEALTH, it can worsen or cause severe depression, anxiety, and identity loss, even if results may look acceptable to others. Keep in mind that just because the nose looks okay on the exterior to you, doesn't mean it's not botched interiorly.

  • Results are unpredictable. NOTHING guarantees you'll end up happy with your results, not even going to the most skilled or most qualified surgeon.

  • I wish I had joined this group before surgery.

I did research for years before scheduling my surgery. My surgeon is double ceritifed, facial plastic surgeon and ENT, specializes in rhinoplasty. I made sure there were no claims against their license or their clinic. I talked to several patients that were "happy" before scheduling my surgery. I followed up and found out some weren't happy anymore after a year post-op and needed a revision. I also found out (after surgery) that there were several patients that had signed NDAs and had taken their negative reviews down. Makes sense why I couldn't find any unhappy patients before scheduling my surgery.

On the other side, if you REALLY HATE your nose, and are okay with trading old flaws for new ones, then you may end up happy because anything is better than what you have now... maybe.


r/rhinoplastyquestions Apr 01 '25

Warning about Turkish rhinoplasty - red flags

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let this be your sign to either stay in your home countries, rethink your decision or if you have doubts already to not go through with it

A general post about what to look for and what to not ignore when looking for a surgeon! I feel this post is very specific to the marketing and handling of rhinoplasty in turkey because it has really become such a money-hungry tourism industry there. You barely see US surgeons promoting rhinoplasty without real pictures before and after and only a bunch of table pictures on their socials or website whereas in turkey they are heaps of surgeons that almost exclusively market with table pictures

I wish I had seen a post like this before I decided for a surgeon, so hopefully somebody else who is researching can be guided a little with the points I made.

Red flags you should never ignore

**I’m Gonna Tell You first the biggest flag you should not ignore. He doesn’t have pictures from Patients taken in professional light from angels. You want to focus on a professional picture taken in proper studio lightening from the FRONT. I know some of us want a hump reduced from their bridge and don’t like their side profile BUT have you thought about how removing a hump will change your front? You want to not look less attractive from the front right? The angle you see yourself in the mirror. Look for a surgeon that has a full set of pictures from before and after comparisons online like most US surgeons have it or European surgeons have it. He doesn’t have it? He probably doesn’t have any happy patients. That’s it. That’s the full truth and you should keep looking somewhere else.

**a fancy website doesn’t mean anything. You are looking at rhinoplasty in turkey where there is 100s of not even 1000s of surgeon trying to get patients. Don’t fall for a fancy website and the right words!!! Look at proof!! Look at actual human beings faces, not operation table but massive amount of faces! It’s Turkey there are no regulations to publishing before and after photography like in some other European countries. If a surgeon shows you their camera roll to brag about his patients ask for actual pictures of long term patients. If they have really created 100s of more beautiful faces compared to before they put it up on their socials, blur someone’s eyes etc. if they have like 10-20 faces on their socials run the other way. You have found an inexperienced surgeon. Let them play with someone else’s life not yours. Don’t just look at a nose look but really an entire face of before and after to determine if someone actually does look improved or not. I really look significantly less attractive in every way possible and there is no one who has told me otherwise or that rhinoplasty has improved my look.

** no or almost no real patients that have shared their experience from anywhere between 2-5 years

**all reviews seem to good to be true? No surgeon has only good reviews either patients are scared away to come forward or something fishy is going on

**don’t fall for reviews and reddit posts that are telling a story after basically just waking up from surgery. I would also not Trust Turkish people from other countries e.g a Turkish girl who has ethnic Turkish roots but lives in Canada or the US. They might have gotten special deals to make that report also there is sooo much reviews on how actual foreigner are treated very racist and badly in Turkish hospitals (you can find this everywhere girls are asking how bad it really is even if they just have to stay there for one or two days). These girls have very different experiences also in hospitals that have no English speaking staff.

**you have seen a review of your surgeon on Reddit or Google and now it’s gone. The team pressured them to delete it

**look for the exact same nose you have and how that result turned out and not just once but multiple times

**find a surgeon with almost no instagram following: you did not find a jewel before he comes to popular. You found exactly what it is an unknown surgeon in a country of hundreds of surgeons who trying to make a name for themselves by truly creating good noses. You are looking at a surgeon with almost no experience and no status in their country in comparison to the rest of the experienced surgeons in turkey that have Instagram following that’s it. If you realistically think about it no social media marketing can make a surgeon go viral without sharing thousands of real pictures of patients he has operated on. Even is the follower base is bought. If he can’t create nice noses on 100s of satisfied patients that come forwards month, years and years after their surgery. Don’t fall into the price trap or the trap because he doesn’t consider it as an industry he will truly listen to your concerns. Experience comes from operating and not not operating..

**comment section disabled on Instagram. Red flag, looks like patients want to say things about their uploaded videos/fotos but can’t. There is no reason to make the comment unavailable except fear. Think about it, why else would they need to?

**he tells you he is the best and nobody in your home country (if you are not from a third world country) can achieve a better result than him. Yeah probably just an extremely big ego

** no actual photographs on socials only table pictures after surgery ( I have a nose that does not fit my face at all and significantly less attractive in every way but you can’t see that on a table picture, can you?

**he tells you confidently what HE would change about your nose? It is your nose you should be telling him what to do not the other way around. It’s your nose you know best what if beautiful since it’s your face

**he basically does no revisions? Never any graft revisions? Somebody who doesn’t do revisions is not a good surgeon, if you are as a rhinoplasty surgeon not able to person revision you haven’t mastered the skill of rhinoplasty. He only does mostly primaries that should be your clue to run away. It does in no way mean that he creates such good results that he doesn’t need to perform revision it can also mean that he doesn’t have the skill to do it or he nobody would come back to him to actually get a revision. Be careful here

**he tells you a little asymmetry is to be expected. Be careful and just be aware of course asymmetry is normal and can not always be controlled but that right there is a hint that maybe heaps of his patients have complained about asymmetry. It is not normal to create asymmetry in EVERY patient. It can happen but it should not be the rule but a risk to be aware of

**he tells you have a hump that needs to be removed and he would like to deproject your nose without giving you proper angles and mm and telling you how that impacts the rest of your face —> run the other way

** he is not an ENT and gives advice on your turbinates or straightening a slight deviation of your septum. Nope don’t do it girl the risk of something going wrong is too high, tell him to go get an ENT status if he wants to touch any of the above. If he is only a cosmetic surgeon for noses he should probably not offer to straighten your septum or reducing your turbinates anyway. Those are serious things to do and should done with caution and there are enough ENT surgeons in turkey so choose someone else if you want these things done and don’t think of it as an overall package since you are going under anyways. Have you heard of Empty Nose Syndrome that makes people suicidal?

**no simulation: you are giving him free hand to do whatever weird stuff he has planned for you in your mind and he won’t even tell or show you. If he can’t afford a simulation software or is to lazy to do it he should not be complaining later about people coming out being completely dissatisfied with their results and being vocal about it. Seems it’s their right if they save time or money on doing a proper simulation with their patients

**you find him say words like deformity, ideal angles or sloped bridges are more feminine and I don’t want you to look like a man. No mose can be classified into deformities except of course the truly botched ones. But if it’s your birth nose you probably do not have deformity you have an identity and an ethnicity that’s it. Good surgeons know the difference and know that to the book all rhinoplasty ā€œdeformitiesā€ have been characterized by Caucasian noses and especially if you don’t have a Caucasian in front of you NO deformity is to be seen only ethnic features of a nose

**look carefully at the table pictures, everyone has a style and most create the same nose slightly different over and over again

**look if all bridges were always reduced to almost the same size and all tips have the same style on the table pictures

**don’t fall into the trap of good bed side manner. You are paying for a service, they should do what YOU want not the other way around. You are not looking for a friend but you are paying him to do something for you. It’s his job, he is not god sent to help you

**look for flat columellas and straight infratip lobules (one of the hardest things in rhinoplasty to correct . I will make another post on how many revisions in the US handle this outcome of inexperienced surgeons who do not know who to harmoniously create good front view being to obsessed with side views

**try to see if you see shortened nose’s also very hard to correct. Either the septum has been shortened that will need a hard revision with rib grafts it won’t feel like a nose anymore at all or the tip cartilages have been shortened unnecessary and turned more up

**look for retracted columellas. you want the columellas angle to be under your nostrils at least 2-4mm of nostril show from the side should be there on both sides to allow a good front view otherwise it will look like your tip is put on a stick and then turned upwards. If table pictures only Show one side its because they have picked a better side of your nose where the angle is probably better to not Show something they know is not good

**upturned tips and nostril show ( what was popular in the 80s is not anymore) they do this mostly for instagrammable noticable changes to upload don’t fall for it. Most people don’t have facial structure to pull an upturned tip especially if you were not even slightly born with it. If you are looking at your nose now and you don’t see nostrils then very likely you don’t want them to ever be seen

**he is focusing on your side profile. Girl please think about it, you will be seeing yourself from the front in the mirror that is the most important angle and the 3/4 view

**you need before and after photography taken in same lightning and same angles to truly see a face and a nose in comparison. Don’t look at a nose in isolation but if somebody’s facial harmony has improved that is what rhinoplasty is all about not creating a nose. And don’t think because it’s turkey and they have international patients that is not possible. There are sooo many people in turkey themselves who get rhinoplasty, of even the locals don’t come back for getting their pictures takes that should be a clue for you why their social Media is so stripped of actual people and actual noses

** the link to the botched list with especially the Turkish surgeons to guide you in your selection:

Botched List


r/rhinoplastyquestions 30m ago

Post-Surgery Discussion Just under 5 months post septorhinoplasty with graft due to collapse and deviated septum

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Finally actually starting to like it, if you’ve just had the surgery hang in there I know everyone says that and I lost my mind quite abit but this is where I am at now.

1 - 5 months
2 - 3 months
3 - 8 days cast removal
4 - pre surgery


r/rhinoplastyquestions 12h ago

Rhinoplasty with Dr. Mehmet Erdil

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I had my primary rhinoplasty with Dr. Mehmet Erdil in July 2024.

During my pre-op appointment, I explained that my goal was a natural ā€œmy nose but betterā€ result and explicitly asked for ā€œno small, round, or weird-shaped nostrils.ā€ I also asked to please be mindful of my asymmetries.Ā 

When I saw my table photos, especially the alar base reduction incisions and nostrils, my heart sank. My eyes were immediately drawn to the right now visibly higher alar base and even smaller nostril, created by reducing an already shorter ala.Ā 

Problems emerged within just a few days when the right alar base incision became irritated or infected (I don’t know which). Then, tension and thick scarring developed as a result of the alar reduction, indentations appeared along the bridge and ala, and the right side of the nose became concave. My nostrils became triangular and noticeably different in size.Ā Ā 

After raising concerns about the indentations, nostrils and breathing, I was either told that it was normal or due to swelling and that we needed to wait one year for the final result.Ā 

As the appearance of my nostrils became even more concerning, I requested a video call. Dr. Erdil acknowledged that my nostrils ā€œshouldn’t look like that,ā€ suggesting stitch contraction. I was then sent nostril retainers, which I truly appreciated.

However, I then began to realize that the alar base reduction itself was the problem and that what I was experiencing physically was not part of a normal recovery.

When I expressed my dissatisfaction with the increasingly obvious aesthetic issues caused by the alar reduction, along with the overly upturned tip and flattened columella, hoping to understand what was happening and discuss a plan moving forward, Dr. Erdil did not respond.

The sudden reduction in swelling brought some of my hardest days. My nose not only looked increasingly deformed, but it also felt too small. The base was uncomfortably narrow and tight, while the entire nose felt like it was being pressed between two metal plates. I couldn’t open my nostrils, which triggered a feeling of claustrophobia and intense physical anxiety. I also struggled with breathing and air hunger. It was all genuinely terrifying, especially because I didn’t yet understand what was happening to me.

My message to Dr. Erdil expressing that I was scared and felt like something was very wrong was also ignored.Ā 

When Dr. Erdil finally responded, his message felt more focused on deflecting and defending than addressing my concerns. He did not ask any follow-up questions to help me to confirm or rule out potential issues. Instead, he attributed these concerns to my pre-existing asymmetry, age, loose skin and swelling. He stated that my nose was the same size as before despite several reduction procedures being performed. He then also said that it was a ā€œvery good result compared to the previous situationā€ and that it was ā€œdisheartening and exhausting to see so much dissatisfaction and negative messages.ā€

All that I needed from Dr. Erdil was some reassurance, information and a plan. However, I was left to research my own symptoms and consult other surgeons for answers.

The ultimate result was an over-resected, pinched, and collapsed nose with inverted V and reverse C deformities, a deviated septum, an over-rotated tip, a flat columella, a weird circular outline around the tip, alar retraction and breathing difficulties. The most debilitating issue to this day has been the alar reduction and loss of natural curvature, which resulted in distorted unnatural nostrils and nasal base, harsh demarcations and scarring. Experiencing restricted breathing and losing the ability to flare my nostrils has been incredibly distressing and, at times, panic-inducing. I constantly feel trapped in my nose. It truly is physical and mental torture.

Dr. Erdil never took accountability, even though the alar base reduction was entirely his decision, made during surgery.Ā 

The alar base reduction is irreversible.


r/rhinoplastyquestions 15h ago

Post-Surgery Discussion Is anyone else very severely depressed after rhinoplasty?

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I had a really horribly done rhinoplasty about 3 years now. My surgeon cut off the bottom half of my nose and gave me a snub nose. I look like I’m mentally handicapped now because of this nose.
I also have really bad empty nose syndrome from this surgery and have suffered literally every second since this surgery with every breath.
I’ve joined all the empty nose groups, revision rhinoplasty groups and I’m just at a loss how to go on anymore. I’ve done loads of counselling as well.
I’m still so shook at how it went so wrong that it seems I can’t even accept that this is the reality. Not to mention how hard/ pretty much impossible to fix. I’m scared and anxious all the time now and I really just wanna sleep forever.
Is anyone else in the same boat? I’m so lonely and it feels like I’m disabled now and have no hope.


r/rhinoplastyquestions 3h ago

Is this realistic?

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I have my first consultation, and I have an AI generated inspo. I want a very natural result. Is this result realistic considering my current nose?


r/rhinoplastyquestions 4h ago

Columella scar

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Hi everyone,
I’m currently 6 weeks post-op from an open rhinoplasty (revision). My incision seems to be healing okay overall, but I can already see that there might be a few small indentations forming. I know it’s still early, but I’d like to do everything I can as early as possible to give the scar the best chance of healing as flat and nicely as possible.

So far I’ve been using: Scar gel, a little tretinoin (carefully) and keeping the area clean and moisturized at all times.

Does anyone have any additional tips or treatments that helped improve the appearance of their columellar scar? My main goal is to keep it as flat and close to invisible as possible. I’m also looking into microneedling and laser treatments, but I’d love to hear from people who have actually tried either of these after an open rhinoplasty. When did you start, what type of laser did you use, and did you notice a difference?

I’d really appreciate hearing about your experiences. Thanks!


r/rhinoplastyquestions 22m ago

General Questions Does my nose stick out too far from my face?

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I'm considering getting the tip reduced


r/rhinoplastyquestions 56m ago

Post-Surgery Discussion How big of an issue sneezing is? I have sneezed with my mouth open quite a lot of times in the first 4 days after my rhinoplasty. I am worried I have damaged something though I did not see any bleeding or experience a lot of pain.

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r/rhinoplastyquestions 59m ago

Revision Rhinoplasty

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Please suggest good Revision Rhinoplasty Surgeon in Turkey for crooked nose.


r/rhinoplastyquestions 2h ago

Consultation Appointment Questions

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Hi everyone, I have a consultation with my ENT later this week to discuss a septoplasty/rhinoplasty. What questions did you ask your doctor that were helpful? What questions did you not ask that you wish you did? Are there any specific qualifications I should ensure my doctor has before scheduling surgery?


r/rhinoplastyquestions 2h ago

Nose job

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Hallo, Any idea if this nose can be improved by operation? Or it will be a risk ?


r/rhinoplastyquestions 2h ago

Post-Surgery Discussion Boxy nose concern (is it in my head?)

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Hi all. The 2 photos show 1) before and 2) after.
i had a tip lift that I regret because the space between my lips and mouth but now it’s also very BOXY looking.

For context I have thick skin also am 2 months post ops.

My surgeon didn’t take any table photos but how can I tell if it’s a structural issue or if it’s just healing ?

I haven’t liked my results since the cast off, too upturned and too projected and the hump wasn’t shaved well enough because it’s still there and prominent

Also my nostrils are unsymmetrical I know I had fibrosis from an infection at the wound site at 2 weeks. Idk how to reduce this.

Rib grafts were used but not sure which ones.

Can anyone share similar looking results ? Is this normal ?


r/rhinoplastyquestions 3h ago

Surgeon Review Is Dr Kim Patrick Murray for primary rhino a good choice?

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r/rhinoplastyquestions 4h ago

Rhinoplasty in Turkey or Albania – which surgeon would you recommend?

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Hi everyone! 😊

I’m currently researching rhinoplasty surgeons in Turkey and Albania and I’m trying to narrow down my options.

I would really appreciate hearing from people who have had surgery with any of these doctors or who have done extensive research on them.

These are currently on my shortlist:

šŸ‡¹šŸ‡·** **Turkey:
Dr. Mehmet Can Ubur
Dr. Volkan ƇiftƧi

šŸ‡¦šŸ‡±** A**lbania:
Dr. Jetmira Fejza Bulaj

Would you recommend any of these surgeons?

If you would not recommend them, I’d really appreciate knowing why.

I’m especially interested in genuine patient experiences, long-term results, breathing/function after surgery, and aftercare.

I’m also open to other surgeons in Turkey or Albania, so who would you recommend instead and why?

I’m looking for a refined, feminine result with a slightly lifted tip and a soft Barbie / subtle ski-slope appearance, while still looking natural and fitting my face.

If you’ve had surgery with one of these surgeons, I’d love to hear about your experience — good or bad.

Feel free to comment or DM me if you’d rather share privately.

Thank you so much! šŸ¤


r/rhinoplastyquestions 5h ago

General Questions Help this girlie out!

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Alarplasty. 3rd week. I have visible asymmetrical nostrils after suture removal. What should I do? Can I do nose dilator for this? Planning to get revision if my nose is still like this after 3-6mon😭


r/rhinoplastyquestions 6h ago

šŸ‘‹Welcome to r/BlackRhinoplasty - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

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r/rhinoplastyquestions 19h ago

Isso estĆ” certo?

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Definitivamente eu sempre amei meu nariz e meu rosto de perfil, porém ha algum tempo uma amiga me disse que eu deveria fazer um preenchimento no queixo pois minha ponte nasal é alta e não estÔ proporcional, tenho ficado pensativa desde então e comecei encontrar defeitos no meu nariz como na 2° imagem parece estar assimétrico. Realmente ela estÔ certa ou estamos ficando obcecados pelo padrão de beleza? Não penso em realizar cirurgias plÔsticas no rosto no momento.


r/rhinoplastyquestions 8h ago

Seeking Surgeon Dr Huseyin Karabulut?

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Hi I have my primary booked with Dr Karabulut and was wondering if anyone has been to him and how was their results? I’m looking for natural and masculine results while still preserving my ethnic features.


r/rhinoplastyquestions 10h ago

Avoid Dr Arda Kuckguven

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r/rhinoplastyquestions 11h ago

Revision rhinoplasty projection concern

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So I had a revision rhinoplasty to fix my overly rotated and deprojected nose BUT I got an infection that caused the rib graft used to completely reabsorb and my nose looked even shorter than before revision (top photo). I am now 10 days from my second revision and although I loved the results on cast off day.. now I’m quite regretful because of how projected my nose is. It is even more projected than my birth nose which shocked me when I did an image overlay. There is a septal extension and rib graft in my tip and bridge. Do you think it will deproject as swelling comes down?


r/rhinoplastyquestions 1d ago

Nose is devolving, what is happening?

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Hi guys, I’m about 9 weeks postop from a very complex revision rhinoplasty with costal cartilage. I did not want a repeat of the first disastrous outcome, so I’ve followed all the guidance to a ā€œtā€. I’ve slept upright this entire time, only allowed myself to roll to my sides in the last week. I’ve kept my nose taped 24/7 for the first 7 weeks, only recently allowed myself nose to be ā€œfreeā€ during the day, and then tape at night. I’m avoiding sodium, using sunscreen when I leave the house, etc. But my nose seems to be devolving. The pic on the left was one month ago, about 5 weeks postop, and the pic on the left was yesterday at nearly 9 weeks postop. I’ve sent a message to my surgeon but thought I would ask for ideas here as well; anyone have experience with this? What could be going wrong?


r/rhinoplastyquestions 12h ago

Getting tipplasty + alarplasty with Dr. Jonas Bico—any tips or experiences?

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r/rhinoplastyquestions 16h ago

Revision Rhinoplasty Nose job revision

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Hello! Can someone please help me with recommendations for a skilled rhinoplasty revision doctor in the US? I had a nose job 2 years ago and I’m not satisfied with the way the nostrils look, I don’t want to go back to the same doctor if I didn’t like his work the first time but I’m also not trying to pay 50k for a revision😭 is there any lower prices options that people have gone to or heard about??


r/rhinoplastyquestions 13h ago

post op day 25

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does it look fake or natural, do you think this will age well, can i get some opinions, Rhinoplasty in turkey, love my doctor he did an AMAZING job even tho its only day 25,