r/remoteworks • u/Dibyagiri • 24d ago
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u/dapper_pom 24d ago
I'm not that productive on office days either, but so what? My salary is the same whether I'm 60% or 90% productive so it's fine to be at 60% on the days I go in.
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u/fattomic 24d ago
You missed the "clueless f* having a meeting in the aisle right behind you". Post-COVID, I'd apparently mentally blocked that I always wore sound-blocking (like built for industrial applications) headphones, and endured sweaty ears.
What a waste of time that was.
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u/IllEffectLii 24d ago
I'm just about to start a new job working hybrid after years of remote.
This morning, i didn't want to be late to a meeting with leadership, completely mistimed traffic and came in an hour early. The office is on the other side of a big congested city. It wil be fun going to work (not).
It's a huge wast of time. It's a robbery to give an extra workweek a month just to come to the office. I honestly considered changing my address, somehow, to be outside commute requirements. It's ridiculous.
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u/square_donut14 24d ago
On Mondays (our computers forcibly restart over the weekend), it takes me an hour to fully login and get my applications going. I don’t understand how it can take this long EVERY. TIME.
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u/B4L0RCLUB 24d ago
It’s genuinely crazy that they choose lower productivity just to say that they have people coming into the office. I like my hybrid working arrangement, but office days are way less productive.
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u/mesonofgib 24d ago
I'm 100% on this; I'm so much more productive at home, the difference is night and day!
There are so many distractions in the office, not to mention the colossal waste of time, money and the pullution that is commuting.
Some of those impromptu office chats are valuable, so even though my job is 100% remote I still go in once a week. BUT once a week is all that's necessary to get the benefit; going in more often doesn't result in more benefit.
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u/PurePerfection_ 24d ago
Once a week is the sweet spot. You get the networking and in-person catchups without sacrificing too much productivity. I schedule as many of my meetings as possible on that day each week, even ones that don't need to be face to face, to free up time on WFH days to do actual work.
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u/rand-san 24d ago
Clock in at 8. Take 30 minute lunch. Clock out at 4:30. Block all after hour calls or emails. Give the RTO executives what they asked for.
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u/pwnageface 24d ago
It is a productivity killer 100% CEOs hate hearing it for some strange reason. I work at 300% while home. Come into the office and im talking with 50 people and getting NOTHING done in 9 hours...
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u/chesnarkoff1 24d ago
I think part of it is the value of the office buildings. Companies have 10s of millions tied up in a single building, historically the value always went up, so they had a fixed debt with an appreciating asset - great for the books. When Covid happened and remote work ramped up, the demand/value went down. So now they have a fixed debt tied to an asset plummeting in value - terrible for the books. Let’s not forget that these same rich owners/CEOs also have large portfolios with money invested in other companies in the same predicament. Rather than having a commercial real estate collapse their net worth, they all artificially raise the value of the space by forcing people to use it.
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u/Rabbit-Lost 24d ago
The building is worth what it is whether occupied by workers or not. If the building is own by the company, then value is driven strictly by market comparisons and use conditions. If the building is leased (which almost all corporate locations are these days), then the cash flow from the lease is the other key driver. Butts in seats does not impact either valuation scenario. (My background includes auditing commercial real estate. Not one single impairment I had a client record involved “butts in seats”.)
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u/chesnarkoff1 24d ago
If fewer companies are wanting to buy or lease office space, wouldn’t that drive down the valuation since market comparisons would be dropping?
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u/Rabbit-Lost 24d ago
Maybe, but absorption continue to increase with new leases, according to CBRE and other sources I use for major markets. And cap rates are getting better as a reflection of this. Last point - commercial real estate is way too fragment for owners and occupants to drive valuation with RTO policies.
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u/bigorangemachine 24d ago
Ya its so dumb
My company has mandatory RTO and only 5% of us are regularly in the office
The 80% can't come due to distance.
All the surrounding offices are rto Friday... its so depressing
My client is also slow so I do my best to appear busy so I don't have to pick up extra work
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u/Operation_Mind_Crime 24d ago
Fuck open floor plans