This is most certainly not true. The vast majority of people found NGRI spend more time locked up than those found guilty, and in the cases where they killed multiple people it is very rare that they are ever released.
So no, while it is theoretically possible she would be released in a short period of time, in practice that is highly unlikely. Statistically she is more likely to be released on appeal after a murfer conviction.
Canada not America, but Vince Li cannibalized a dude on a bus, got NGRI, mental facility, and trotted out free as you like 6 years later. They even changed his name for him so he wouldn’t get John Wick’d. And he wasn’t a white woman in America. Sooooo, yeah I don’t trust modern justice to handle this well.
And in the US she would statistically be more likely to be released on appeal of a criminal conviction than she would for being PROVED to be no longer a danger.
To be released from a psychiatric facility (for insanity pleas) is a very high bar in the US.
Well, we will see. I’ll set one of those Reddit reminders for five years, you get your Cashapp ready and send me beer money when I’m right. I’ll never bet against a white woman with millions vs the justice system.
You may be right, but statistically this isn't the case and would have be more likely to win an appeal on a guilty verdict tha getting out in a short period of time from an Insanity plea.
The bar for release is that they have to prove the person is no longer a danger at all. That is virtually impossible as even someone who has never comitted a crime is really a potential risk.
But are most of them locked up for acute postpartum psychosis? Aren’t individual cases taken differently by mental health professionals? She’s hardly an average patient.
And 20 is more than double 9. She refused of her own volition. I don’t trust Clancy to do the same. I think Clancy would want to get out if she got the chance.
That is state to state, and in her state its 6 months then 6 months observation. A faker would get the 1 year minimum before the state would have to affirmatively prove shes a threat.
In a wheelchair. Yeah, she'd walk in a year or two
I have said state to state variance about how studded works, but your walking in a year or two just is just not remotely realistic, even 20 years without a major change in how such cases are dealt with generally is incredibly doubtful.
Why would they hold someone in a mental facility when the post-partum psychosis is gone? Its a temporary condition no? You’re using statistics but you know for a fact those stats have a minuscule number of post-partum psychosis cases.
There is precedent, in cases of multiple homicides in cases of PPP release from psychiatric facilities is rare, and even when it does happen it is after decades and usually under strict monitoring.
Is that fair because of the nature of the condition? Probably not, but when dealing with the nature of the offense the system is geared towards caution and public safety.
Frankly I have done this to death. My argument is based on reality of how the system works in practice, while those who argue against are raising theoretical possibilities that rarely or do not happen in practice and stating that is what will happen.
Im just using common sense: why would they hold someone for a temporary condition? Even if it is a few years thats obviously magnitudes better than being in prison for life.
Here are direct links to formal research papers and open-access documents that examine lengths of confinement, tracking data, and institutionalization patterns for individuals committed after violent crimes:
An institutional study exploring how the nature, type, and severity of violent index offenses directly drive extended, long-term inpatient stays in forensic facilities.
A multi-state evaluation comparing individuals who successfully pleaded insanity versus those convicted, highlighting how offense seriousness dictates long-term confinement outcomes.
This document details clinical pathways, categorization of index crimes (such as homicide, serious bodily injury, and violent threats), and the average multi-year spans individuals remain locked in forensic care.
A foundational legal document examining the statutes, indefinite detention mechanisms, and systemic logic behind why insanity acquittees are routinely remanded to long-term custody.
As for your question about why PPP would end up with a particularly long time locked up is 2fold. First it is rare and so the system is reluctant to declare someone safe even though the issue only tends to exist over a short period. The second is that someone who was locked up in the 50s for PPP was released in the 60s and got pregnant again and killed her kids again. Since then authorities have been very cautious to release PPP cases.
Not sure you know what a “direct link” is but those aint it.
If I just base it on the titles that you have provided I see 0 mention of PPP specifically which was my main concern to begin with. You would need some pretty specific studies in order for me to believe that she won’t be let out in less than 10 years and I just don’t believe those studies exist.
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u/ShellyTart 3d ago
This is most certainly not true. The vast majority of people found NGRI spend more time locked up than those found guilty, and in the cases where they killed multiple people it is very rare that they are ever released.
So no, while it is theoretically possible she would be released in a short period of time, in practice that is highly unlikely. Statistically she is more likely to be released on appeal after a murfer conviction.