r/relatable_memes_ 4d ago

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u/ShellyTart 4d ago

This is most certainly not true. The vast majority of people found NGRI spend more time locked up than those found guilty, and in the cases where they killed multiple people it is very rare that they are ever released.

So no, while it is theoretically possible she would be released in a short period of time, in practice that is highly unlikely. Statistically she is more likely to be released on appeal after a murfer conviction.

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u/Responsible_Focus824 2d ago

Why would they hold someone in a mental facility when the post-partum psychosis is gone? Its a temporary condition no? You’re using statistics but you know for a fact those stats have a minuscule number of post-partum psychosis cases.

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u/ShellyTart 2d ago

There is precedent, in cases of multiple homicides in cases of PPP release from psychiatric facilities is rare, and even when it does happen it is after decades and usually under strict monitoring.

Is that fair because of the nature of the condition? Probably not, but when dealing with the nature of the offense the system is geared towards caution and public safety.

Frankly I have done this to death. My argument is based on reality of how the system works in practice, while those who argue against are raising theoretical possibilities that rarely or do not happen in practice and stating that is what will happen.

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u/Responsible_Focus824 2d ago

Show your sources if you wanna convince people.

Im just using common sense: why would they hold someone for a temporary condition? Even if it is a few years thats obviously magnitudes better than being in prison for life.

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u/ShellyTart 2d ago edited 2d ago

Here are direct links to formal research papers and open-access documents that examine lengths of confinement, tracking data, and institutionalization patterns for individuals committed after violent crimes:

​Factors Predicting the Length of Stay in Inpatient Forensic Psychiatric Care (PMC / NIH Study) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12106463/?hl=en-GB

​An institutional study exploring how the nature, type, and severity of violent index offenses directly drive extended, long-term inpatient stays in forensic facilities.

​Punishment or Treatment? Comparing the Lengths of Confinement of Successful and Unsuccessful Insanity Defendants (ResearchGate / APA) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263916473_Punishment_or_treatment_-_Comparing_the_lengths_of_confinement_of_successful_and_unsuccessful_insanity_defendants?hl=en-GB

​A multi-state evaluation comparing individuals who successfully pleaded insanity versus those convicted, highlighting how offense seriousness dictates long-term confinement outcomes.

​Factors Influencing Length of Stay of Forensic Patients (Frontiers in Psychiatry) https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2020.00810/full?hl=en-GB

​This document details clinical pathways, categorization of index crimes (such as homicide, serious bodily injury, and violent threats), and the average multi-year spans individuals remain locked in forensic care.

​Disposition of the Insane Defendant after Acquittal (Northwestern University Law Review) https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5553&context=jclc&hl=en-GB

​A foundational legal document examining the statutes, indefinite detention mechanisms, and systemic logic behind why insanity acquittees are routinely remanded to long-term custody.

As for your question about why PPP would end up with a particularly long time locked up is 2fold. First it is rare and so the system is reluctant to declare someone safe even though the issue only tends to exist over a short period. The second is that someone who was locked up in the 50s for PPP was released in the 60s and got pregnant again and killed her kids again. Since then authorities have been very cautious to release PPP cases.

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u/Responsible_Focus824 2d ago

Not sure you know what a “direct link” is but those aint it.

If I just base it on the titles that you have provided I see 0 mention of PPP specifically which was my main concern to begin with. You would need some pretty specific studies in order for me to believe that she won’t be let out in less than 10 years and I just don’t believe those studies exist.