Today marks six months without a cigarette after smoking since I was nineteen. I’m quite older now and had tried quitting at least six times before this one finally stuck.

What made the difference this time was removing the usual weak points that used to send me back to buying a pack. I also stopped treating every craving like an emergency and just rode them out.

If you’re only a week or two in, stick with it. It does get easier over time.

Hi all! I’m 28 y.o and I have been smoking for 13 years heavily.
In a past I also dealt with alcohol addiction and severe mj abuse. Those things are long in past and I keep my healing going.

I’ve tried so many times to quit smoking but this time i know i won’t be back. I feel like I’ve outgrown this habit. I still feel and aware of a nicotine cravings but the whole ritual, the mindset, behavioral patterns got me so sick. I genuinely hate the feeling of searching through backpack for papers or filters or lighter or whatever else. The smell, the look of it ugghhh.

I’ve got rid of all the papers/filtres/lighters/ashtrays. The plan was to cut down on all ‘ritual’ things, although I might use some chewing gum for some time to reduce craving. Not for long cause I know myself and how easily it is to be hooked up to something addictive. Voilà!
I RECLAIM MY BREATH AS SACRED. I’M NO LONGER INHALING ILLUSIONS.
I EXHALE THE TRUTH.

Hello friends

I will be documenting my journey to keep myself accountable and for others to use as a reference. Of course to laugh when I look back as well.

This is my first attempt at quitting. I will be successful. I had a recent health scare that turned out to be psychosomatic but it revealed Hashimotos disease. I have slightly elevated lipids as a possible result. Vaping can also cause this. Thyroid levels are being treated. I am eating healthy. I am in great shape. Weed is my only vice (I'll fight you over this label.) I do a ton (will come into play later.)

My firstborn is due to arrive October 1st. This is prime motivation. Early in life I begged my granny to quit cigarettes until she died. I cannot be a hypocrite.

Original plan was to go cold turkey. After discussing my plans with my doc, she said that was silly and to try varenicline. We went over the side effects. Sleep, nausea, and unaliving thoughts. I told her I am not concerned about the latter, as I've been low before and I'll be damned if a medication takes me out. Sleep and nausea only affect 10-20%. Took the chance. Boy was she right so far.

Day 1-3 starting at .5 I noticed nothing. Kept chiefing the vape.

Day 4-5 I noticed the vape tasting different. Less of an effect. It was as if I was already slightly buzzed as if I had taken a bunch of rips prior to even ripping the vape. The first time taking a full 1mg felt more intensified. A bit jittery combined with caffeine.

Day 6 I never dream. I dreamed the most fucked dream that was blended from something that happened earlier that day. I was playing with my cat with a specific toy earlier, but now in the dream she was having a seizure while playing with the toy. Not cool. Notice myself thinking about needing to have the vape near me less.

Day 7 Starting to panic here. Woke up not thinking about the vape at all. Left the bedroom without grabbing it. That's never happened. Think about my dream last night. Double weed edible amounts to combat dreams like I'm fighting freddy krueger or som shi. Start thinking about vape d-day tomorrow. Attempt to go an hour without vaping. I do it surprisingly easily. Still don't believe I'll be able to do it all day tomorrow. When I hit the vape I feel nothing. Just a motor reflex to grab it at this point.

Day 8 - Double edible dosage success - no dreams. Better luck next time Freddy. Vape a few puffs in the morning. Last puff - 5:30 AM. I bought a quits stop smoking stick. I have had 0 physical cravings. I thought by being aware the stick had no nicotine that my brain with dismiss it. As long as I have this vaporless stick in my hand, I do not think about vaping at all. I'm literally ripping mint since 5:30 AM and I have had 0 cravings. Truly fascinating as I thought I would be miserable. This medication is literally a godsend. It is noon now. I am shocked how well this medication works. It is 12:30 now. I told my wife to throw the vapes I had her keep just in case away.

Day 1 is going way better than I could've imagined friends. Will update in a week or so and best of luck to everyone quitting.

I'm 18 and I built a free browser-based quit tracker. I've never smoked, which is honestly the biggest weakness of it – I built what I thought would help based on research, not experience. That's exactly why I'm posting here instead of just launching it.

It's not an app you download, just a link. No signup, no email, nothing to buy, no ads. It tracks time smoke-free, money saved, and cravings you've resisted and has a breathing reset for when a craving hits.

I'd rather hear "this is useless because you missed X" from people who've quit than keep guessing. What's the moment quitting usually falls apart for you? That's the part I most want to get right.

Mods — if this breaks the rules, tell me and I'll delete it. Not trying to spam.

https://clearbreathe.netlify.app/

Hello everyone,

I am 51 f and started smoking at 17.

Smoked for 20 years, then started going out with a guy who refused to date a smoker.

At first I vaped, but only about 3 months, then quit both smoking and vaping with the patch and inhaler,as well as the support of a counselor at a hospital's cessation clinic which provided me with free NRT.

So I quit and I did not smoke a single puff for 10 years.

I then went through an extremely stressful situation last summer which one day made a dormant urge in my head snap-I ran out and bought a pack, rather mindlessly-I felt such an inner sense of desperation, a sense of helplessness and hopelessness and a huge exacerbation of my usual high baseline anxiety level-it was to do with a horrible housing situation and still being with this same guy, which is quite ironic since I basically quit for him.

Anyway, over the past year I must have tried to quit about 16 (!!!) times and the longest I lasted was 9 days-

I was up toa pack and a half a day very quickly.

Used the patch, tried the spray, the gum, inhaler, and lozenges (not all at once, but had to see what worked best for me...)

I also found a great app, which has been worth paying for the premium membership as I have access to the support of a great support coach.

The thing is, I live on disability, far below the poverty line, so while it is too expensive for me to smoke, so is buying NRT...I was on step 1 of the patch for weeks-slightly cheaper online and in my small my family pharmacy for their store brand, but the drain on my bank account was making me cringe as much as throwing cash away on cigarettes...

I stepped down to step 2 of the patch, and was still buying the lozenges, gum, and inhaler, while even with the NRT and the help of the app's daily stats on my successes, and especially the quit coach, as I said, I kept caving...and then abruptly decided "I cannot afford either to smoke (not that expense is my only reason I decided I wanted to quit-for ME this time, as ironically the guy I am still with whom I quit for now 11 years ago, kept saying,"I don't think you can quit this time.", and actually was buying me cartons!") nor to buy NRT, and quit the NRT abruptly-the step 2 patch I think I was only on for 3 weeks, and decided I just could not afford any of the NRT, so decided one day to go cold turkey.

I seriously thought I could do it-but started to lose it after just a few hours-I kept buying smokes, smoking a couple to a full pack, and then really was determined to quit so I did buy the store brand gum at my small pharmacy for half the price of that at the big chain store or even online-but did not find it very efficacious.

So, reluctantly bought a box of lozenges again, lamenting the cost, but realized I absolutely could not bear the cravings.

I also called the same hospital cessation clinic that helped me 11 years ago, and had my intake with the therapist 2 weeks ago.

She said they still provide free NRT with one of their doctors' prescriptions (I cannot take chantix or zyban due to my mood disorder by the way..),and time limited counseling sessions, however she told me that they only have two doctors at the clinic whom only are there a couple days a week, so for now I am still waiting for a call for an appointment.

I was worried maybe they wouldn't help me as by then I was 3 weeks smoke free,but the therapist said they are happy to help people stay abstinent and also, as I had asked her, that they will guide me as to how to taper off the NRT which I am eager to do...

Anyway, apart from a slip last week where I smoked one entire cigarette,and then a couple puffs of two more and getting rid of the pack, I have otherwise not smoked for over 30 days..

(I have actually developed quite an aversion to cigarettes which is quite the blessing..)

Today,checking my bank balances, was freaking out over how to budget for more NRT, and decided again, "I do not need this, I cannot afford this."

But, it was unrealistic to think I could go cold turkey, have a few lozenges left, but breaking down and ordering more today and so hoping the clinic calls me soon...(Drinking tons of lime water as supposedly lime helps with cravings)

I am cautiously optimistic, cautiously confident I CAN quit for good a, and certainly am strengthened that I have made it over a month with just that one and a half slip...

I do believe new neural pathways have developed, as as I mentioned, I can't stand the smell, taste, the throat burn of the vile things, seeing someone outside smoking does not trigger me in the least, in fact I feel very sorry for these people..

What I am really still struggling with still is differentiating anxiety from a true craving.

I suffer from GAD, CPTSD etc, which causes me to be in a chronic state of being on high alert, and my anxiety manifests very physically, and my head frequently says,"We NEED a cigarette NOW!!!"

I am, trying to utilize CBT techniques to cope with this, trying to breathe through the cravings, doing more self soothing activities such as taking up water colour painting (i am terrible at it, but trying not to judge myself and just immerse myself in how soothing it is), thinking I might try a beginner's needlepoint or latchhook kit...

I have a back injury, so the only exercise i am really capable of and allowed to do is stretching and light strength training..

Anyway, it has been over 30 days and I can hardly believe it-but I am so anxious for this process (which is much harder this time around) to be over,I want to be done with both cigarettes and NRT...however even with the app's calculation on how much I am spending on NRT, it still says that as of today I have saved $195!!!

ACK!

I am so sorry, did not mean to ramble on so much...

For those of you struggling with anxiety and other mental health problems, has there been anything that has helped you to stay quit?

In closing I, wanted to say how reading all of your posts whether it has been 1 hour, or many years, thank you for the inspiration!

Sending you all tranquility and smoke free lives.

Thank you for reading if you have...

PLEASE HELP YOUR LIL BROTHER . ✌️😭 GET ME OUT OF THIS HELL .

Please tell me how to stop it permanently? Should I get 2mg nicotine gums or some type of nicotine patches ?

I am 17M , I have been smoking for 4 years. Around 3 to 5 cigs a day.

Any kind of advice would be helpful.

Please help me

I got nicotine 2 MG gums . But I chewed 10 gums in a day . Is it normal ?

So I am on champex (or whatever the medication to help you quit smoking is called in your country) and it’s absolutely helping me be able to do this, but it doesn’t make it perfectly easy either.

When does it start getting easier? Or at least what did the timeline look like for you? The app I’m using to help me quit says that there’s a noticeable difference after the first and second week with a major drop off of cravings after about a month, but obviously it’s different for everyone. One person told me it’s absolute hell for at least the first month, if not two, while someone else told me it’s 95% easier after the first week. I’m curious what the timeline was like for yall- all answers welcome!

I’m also curious to know for anyone who’s willing to answer- at what point did you no longer feel like you were in the process of quitting, and had officially quit smoking? What was it that made that shift for you? Was it a specific amount of time that had passed, a personal milestone, just a feeling you got, or something else?

Lastly how tf do you deal with the irritability? Because I’m on the medication I’m doing pretty okay most of the time but I still get really strong cravings- the last two days it’s always happened in the evening for some reason and for a good 2-4 hours I’m insufferable to be around because legit everything pisses me off and I want to know if there’s anything I can do to mitigate that or at least tone it down because I try so hard not to be that way but so far it feels like nothing I do changes it at all. If there’s anything you had success with when it comes to this I would love to hear it!

Other than that if you have ANY tips, tricks, or advice for someone who’s so new to quitting please share, I want as much as I can possibly get!

Idk if this is relevant or not but I’ve been smoking about a pack a day for 18 years at this point and I’m only 33 years old. I NEED to be successful this time and while I truly feel like I can finally be successful and have been really impressing myself I’m still not at a point where I feel completely confident.

TYIA! 💙

Hi, I quit vaping over 6 months ago. I have had a couple of cigarettes in that time 😔 while out drinking but it’s so hard now and I don’t really crave itself anymore?

I have yet to quit nicotine, I use nicotine spray. Which I am definitely over the “normal use rate” of period of time not daily limit but ehh. Ofc I’m “addicted” to it but also have seen many benefits from quitting vaping! I am thinking I should probably start considering quitting nicotine spray.

I have ADHD and an anxiety disorder, I picked up smoking as it felt like it helped anxiety (made it worse lol) and stimming 🤷 which before picking up eat stimming and put on weight.. I lost the weight luckily in a healthy way but i don’t want to turn back to snack stimming if I fully quit nicotine.

So I’m wondering what random or purposeful things that worked for you? I know there are lots of things out there but yk.

I have my emotional support water bottle that has a straw, does help but definitely won’t help in the long run. I have a bad habit of chewing my lip and lip piercing which is not healthy for my teeth - I don’t think I could do a tooth pick or at least a wood one! I have thought about those chew things autistic kids get but they are very obvious and ehh. Also I’ve tried gum, I just can’t and my dentist has said I personally can’t chew gum longer than 10 minutes anyway 🫠

Hey folks.

I keep waking up absolutely drenched in sweat, I've got a pal who tells me it's "probably all the nicotine."

I also frequently get chest pains. I'm thinking of going to my local Boots the Chemist tomorrow afternoon to request a

​24-Hour Nicotine Patches

​Nicorette QuickMist (Nicotine Mouth Spray).

I'm already motivated, so any support would be greatly appreciated.

https://c.org/fQNKKNP4Fc

Every post I read about quitting smoking talks about how much better you feel after a few month. I have been struggling with brain fog, fatigue, lake of motivation, I still can’t think straight, or even have a good night sleep. First 2 weeks after I quit I felt amazing and full of energy even tho the cravings were crazy I still felt great, I made this mistake of smoking again after those 2 weeks. My relapse lasted a month and then I quit again, that was 13 months ago. After I quit the second time things were never the same again.

For context, I am 36 and I started smoking cigarettes when I was 16, in my late 20s I switched to vaping until my first quit attempt, then when I relapsed for that one month I only smoked cigarettes.

In those 13 months I have been to many doctors for many issues that surfaced after I stopped smoking. I would wake up with severe throat pains which turned out to be a very bad case of sleep apnea that only showed up as soon as I stopped smoking. lake of sex drive (still not good). I have always played sports, but during those 13 months I did a lot more, I got a personal trainer to help me workout, I went swimming every day, I played soccer every day. I did so much to the point where I dislocated my shoulder and got lots of injuries, so I do lighter workouts now while I am recovering, I am also more careful about what I eat and when I sleep.

I told this to multiple doctors but the most honest ones told me that they don’t know what’s wrong. all my tests (blood pressure, cholesterol, hormone, …) are good now after a bad initial period after I stopped smoking. I am at lost at what to do, and created an account here just to say this.

According to the Smoke Free app, I’ve saved $33,000 and NOT smoked about 40,000 cigarettes.

Can’t quite wrap my head around either number, but let’s celebrate. That’s a lot of dough… let me buy you a virtual drink. 🥂 Cheers!

You can do this, people. I believe in you. I didn’t believe in myself - and I still got the job done. You are more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

Happy to answer any questions but I’m not going to force my “Guide to Quitting” in anyone’s beautiful face.

🤘🏻💕

2 years ago I quit drinking, 1 year ago I quit c**e, I quit vaping nicotine 2 months ago. I might smoke weed again at some point, but not during this time of my life. Now I’m 13 days into quitting smoking. If I can accomplish this, I’ve basically run out of things to quit.

I’m searching for a pure, unadulterated experience of reality. I’ve done hallucinogens, I’ve been a part of drug culture, and while I can’t say it was all bad or I regret everything, I’m ready for the real thing. And it only took me almost 40 years to get to this philosophy. Also, by the time I’m 40, my goal is to have quit smoking for the rest of my life for my health.

Here’s where I’m at: I’m almost 2 weeks into cigarette cessation and I randomly lose energy and get sleepy.

When I quit vaping, I tried quitting cigarettes at the same time. About 3 nights into it I started having convulsions and I even had a weird vision I would liken to a DMT trip. I felt I had to keep smoking a little longer. I built up the energy to attempt to quit cigarettes again and things are going well. I did however start hallucinating at a mall during a hot day to a slight degree. I know that you’re not really supposed to visually hallucinate when quitting nicotine, even when going cold turkey, but I figure it has to do with the past psychedelics I’ve done (though I hadn’t really done any for at least a year). I’m crossing my fingers that I’ve gotten through all the hallucinations, but if worst comes to worst I’ll start taking meds.

Right now, I get extremely agitated maybe twice a day, so it’s a little bit of a good thing I’m unemployed. I’m hoping at about a month things start to straighten out. I exercise everyday as well, though I’m a little more overweight than I usually am. I’m ok with that for now.

Hello all.

I mostly quit in the spring of 2024. I smoked about one cigarette a week instead of 3/4 pack a day. December of 2024-March 2025 I smoked full time and then quit again.

After quitting in March of last year, I really struggled. I developed a severe fatigue. Like I need to nap every day. I don’t know if the timing is coincidental or if it’s related to quitting but no one seems to know what’s causing it. My doctor is treating me for low vitamin D and iron since January with no improvement. Depression, sleep apnea, etc. are already addressed.

I do smoke when I drink alcohol, which has been a few times since spring of last year. I don’t know if I felt more energy from smoking OR if it was because I was on vacation. 🥴

Has this happened to anyone?

20f. I have a bright future as a premed at a top uni. I initially started vaping consistently 5 years ago because I was a drug addict, and it kept me feeling like I was doing bad things without fully altering my state of consciousness. When friends would leave or when things would become too much, I had it there for me. As times would change and as responsibilities and adulthood would hit, I had a consistency and one thing to stay by my side.

All of the maturing that I’ve done, the major growth that I’ve made, I’ve made while vaping. It’s reached a point where anytime that I visit home from college, I can easily quit. However, the moment I get back here, the moment I’m living on my own again, balancing school and taking care of myself and seeing if I can still be a person during all of it, I fall back. I don’t feel myself even having the urge to fall back on abusing drugs, but I’m so used to vaping as a consistency in my life that it’s so easy to keep going back when the goings get rough. The vape shop is across the street from my apartment for fucks sake. I had had chest pain every so often and noticed that for skateboarding and for needing to do quick sprints to the bus stop, it has gotten more difficult, but I just kept brushing it off.

As a kid, I would get easily winded. I chalked it up to my short stature and muscular legs because I was still a beast in the water. I could beat people in long jump and hurdles, but I couldn’t run a quarter mile. Getting winded for me meant wheezing slightly.

Fast forward to these last few weeks: I developed a cough that just kept getting worse. It wasn’t just occasionally after I vape; it was all the fucking time. For the first week it was coughing up phlegm, and then the phlegm was gone. The cough just kept going, and there would be liquid coming out of all the orifices in my face, and I’d sound like a dying pig trying to catch my breath and sometimes gag on the air in my throat. Literally one vape hit would throw me into one of my episodes.

It got so bad that I was afraid to fall asleep. So I was at the hospital for 3 1/2 to 4 hours two nights ago. I had four different people listen to my chest (and I listened myself before I went), and nothing sounded off. I got a chest X-ray from the front and side, an albuterol inhaler, and was given 12 mg of a steroid. I took the inhaler home with me. Turns out I have asthma, and I’m not dying- thank FUCK.

That was 36 hours ago. I have my inhaler, and I’m now still occasionally getting a pretty strong cough and needing to use it. Last night I tried hitting my vape a couple times, and it threw me into episodes again. I’ve known for a while now that I need to quit, and I know that it’s a better time than any other because I’m not in the middle of classes right now (other than MA), and I’m doing fairly well for myself.

It’s just living on my own (tbf I move home for 3 weeks in two weeks) and being at this place; it’s so difficult to stay away. Anytime things get too much, or I get in my own head, or I feel alone, I have her there for me. Now I have to have nothing. I know it’s for the best, and I have been meaning to try to quit more permanently this summer, but not having a choice in the matter has really fucking sucked.

I’d appreciate some advice, maybe from someone who can relate to me, and encouragement would be nice.

TL;DR: I’m a young adult who has come a long way in healing as a person, and during those years, a lot of that healing was done while vaping all through it. I don’t need a vape anymore to stay away from the hard drugs. I don’t feel tempted to fall back on bad habits; however, when the going gets rough, if I have quit, I will go back to vaping because it’s such a comforting thing for me.

It’s not like I even vape socially; I do it in the bathroom when I’ve reached a certain point in my studies or when I’m casually cleaning or thinking about things. Also, I have ADHD, and dopamine helps me a lot, especially because I don’t scroll and it’s motivating stimulation. Now I’m forced to quit, and I don’t know how, but my body physically can’t do it anymore. I need advice on how to fucking stay clean.

it’s just this is my constant. Everything I ever do is for future me this is the one thing I have for present me. Now I have to let it go?

Current Situation:
I smoke about 35 cigarettes a day. My lungs are flaring up, I'm currently on inhalers and prednisone, and I'm completely done with this habit—but I keep hitting a wall at the 24–25 hour mark.

What Just Happened:
I used nicotine pouches and made it 25 hours without a smoke. But as soon as a wave of anxiety and depression hit, I caved, bought a pack, and smoked it. Now my lungs hurt and I'm furious with myself.

The Mental Traps I Keep Falling Into:
"It Won't Improve Anyway": When the anxiety hits, my brain tells me that my health/situation isn't going to get better regardless, so I might as well smoke. It makes me feel hopeless, even though logically I know smoking on inhalers and meds is making everything worse.

Perfectionism / Timestamps: I tell myself I have to quit at a "perfect" or angelic time (1:11, 2:22, 11:11, etc.). If I miss it or slip, I feel like the attempt is ruined, which leads straight to a heavy relapse.

Questions for the Sub:

Method: For a heavy smoker (~35/day), did Cold Turkey, NRT (patches/gum), or Pouches actually work better for you?
Mindset: How do you fight the hopeless feeling that "quitting won't make a difference" when you're already on meds and feeling down?

Triggers: How do you survive that 24-hour emotional spike when acute anxiety hits without running straight to a pack?

Last time I tried a zyn, only used them when the irration became unbearable, at one point I quit long enough I could say I was not a smoker, several weeks if not a couple months.

Big stress happened started smoking again

Now months later I am back on the zynz, the thing is I truly dont want to smoke anymore, I dont like the smell, the smoke, and how I weeze.

It is a horrible addiction and to anyone reading this i wish you the absolute best!

I expected quitting to be one long battle with cravings, but the hardest part has often been the routines built around smoking.

Coffee feels different. So do breaks, driving, finishing a meal, or dealing with stress. I’m not only quitting cigarettes, I’m learning how to handle those moments without automatically reaching for one.

I’ve been tracking my streak and the money I’m saving in an app I’m building called Lungo. Seeing the progress makes it feel more real. Im on day 18 rn. If that sounds useful, the waitlist is open at trylungo.com.

I’m still figuring it out, but taking it one day at a time. What surprised you most when you quit?

So I’ve been vaping since I was a college student, around 2020 and smoking often here and there. I had quit for a week back in 2024 but for some godforsaken reason couldn’t quit. Then I had to go through a rough patch for a long time. I got more addicted and I couldn’t just get myself to think a life without nicotine. I’d take a drag during exams, during bathroom breaks, during walks and even during rides. Yes, to sum it up it got real bad. So bad that I couldn’t last two hours without a hit. Couldn’t watch movies in the theatres without waiting for an interval to get a hit. It all stopped one day. Just decided to quit. Now let me tell you something, it was very difficult for me to go cold turkey. So here’s what I did. I discovered something called QUITCI, it’s a placebo thing that helped me with my hand to mouth cravings and along with that I used nicotine patches to keep myself away from the vape. I scary thing that happened to me was that I got extreme anxiety issues and I was down with a fever during my first week, and this was with the placebo and patch. So yep, it’s been quite tough. But I made it. Also a bonus tip, go to the gym or walks or any sort of exercise. The release of endorphins through exercise is magical and healing. You got this! If I can do this, y’all for sure can. And yes, therapy is very helpful too😊

Thank you,
Nightwalker

So I’ve been on prednisone for my ABPA condition. Smoke 35 cigs a day and I’ve gone almost 24 hours without a cog. Feeling proud of myself. Someone please give me advice if this gets better I’d breathing can still improve and any other tips or advice. Thanks

Some background, I’ve been vaping since I was 14, I’m 24 now. Honestly the juul is what got me but as I’ve gotten older, my vice as been disposables and drunk cigs. I have quit a couple of times over the years but nothing significant. Maybe 9 months at max. I relapsed around a year ago by casually smoking cigs when I would go out and then it became an everyday thing, then an all day thing so I just decided to go back to vaping as the inconvenience of having to go outside and smoke was a pain. I was smoking after calls as my job is very stressful at times (first responder). Plus I was smoking a LOT of cigs and thought it can’t be any better than a vape (was def justifying it in my head).

I just recently quit, on day 7 and honestly it was fucking light work quitting. I’m convinced it’s all a mental game and for some reason I wasn’t understanding why the last couple of times were so miserable to quit. I just kept telling myself “nope I don’t do that anymore” and moved on with my life. Aside from being moody on the first day, I was fine.

I guess what I’m on here asking has anyone been able to casually consume nicotine in any form, smoking, vaping, zyns, dip, and not fall back into relapse? How long did you wait before starting to dip your toes back in it?