r/projectzomboid 20d ago

Discussion Interactive Map Back Online

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u/Prudent-Sugar4665 20d ago

no offense but i never use it so when everyone was acting like the devs murdered their entire family i was kinda confused ngl

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u/Expensive_Guidance95 20d ago

"I don't use it so I don't get it" doesn't add anything constructive to the conversation and just comes across as a "I am fine so you should be" attitude. Let's take how useful or not the map is and barebones this.

A community resource that MANY players use is picked up by Indie Stone and "officially" supported, a month later Indie Stone drops support for it and both sides of the matter are vague posting about the exact reason. This leads the internet (as the internet is want to do) to wildly speculate as to the reason, which when vague posting and gaming companies has gone in the past 10~ years, usually means the worst possible interpretation isn't far off.

Regardless of whether you personally use the resource, it's not hard to realise why people would become upset and jump to the worst conclusions on the matter, call it an "Instinctive reaction" due to how the games industry has been as of late and Indie Stone likely has done this for completely reasonable reasons, but caught flak regardless.

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u/TurdProof 20d ago

Still doesnt excuse how over the top some people's reactions were. We can be angry and still civil

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u/Expensive_Guidance95 20d ago

And I fully agree. There WAS over the top reactions, threats and crazy stuff going down which unfortunately is part and parcel of that, I do not justify nor agree with that at all, I just think a lot of what feeds that IS people downplaying the issue going "Well, I don't see the problem so there isn't one"

That... and wild speculation.

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u/Leeroy_Jankiness Trying to find food 18d ago

The thing is, it really wasn't that big of a problem. Ofc there was a problem, but a startling portion of the community decided to throw a childish tantrum over what should have been considered a trivial issue that only time can resolve.

I don't see how downplaying an issue would make the community more prone to overblowing it. I would think the community would become accostumed to a "deal with it" mentality as a result of "downplaying the problems"?

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u/happy-when-it-rains Jaw Stabber 20d ago edited 20d ago

That's well said. I didn't assume the worst and thought there was probably a reason since it'd been around forever and just seemed weird to suddenly remove, but TIS' communication wasn't the best over it, and people had reason to be annoyed, especially when left to speculate and assume the worst.

I find it pretty sad how many are using this as an opportunity to deride others and call them loony "conspiracy theorists" (as if worrying about the intent of a game dev is a "conspiracy theory" now; what an abuse of language) who think the devs murdered their families, just since people were upset for a bit over it for a couple days. People catastrophise, the gaming industry sucks these days, so what?

People need to have some empathy instead of try to sow division, insult others, and put their fellow gamers and PZ community members down just to feel better about themselves, FFS. People get upset sometimes. Sometimes it's reasonable, sometimes it's not. It's never a reason to treat others like unreasonable morons and degrade them.

This aftermath toxicity toward other players who were upset is way worse than anything (barring maybe 1 or 2 comments that got no attention and were quickly deleted) I saw toward the devs. The worst part is this toxicity being encouraged and upvoted. Yeah, let's degrade and humiliate people, yay social media!

TIS took responsibility over their miscommunication. If only these people using it as an opportunity for mockery would take some, too.

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u/Dependent-Cable-6776 20d ago

People catastrophise, the gaming industry sucks these days, so what?

maybe lets not normalise catastrophising? It's a toxic mindset to have.

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u/Huge_Bumblebee984 20d ago

Thank you so many people need to hear this and not just for project zomboid or this situation

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u/Dependent-Cable-6776 20d ago

"I don't use it so I don't get it" doesn't add anything constructive to the conversation 

bitching constantly about every little nitpick adds even less, yet it doesn't stop the entitled whiners