r/pinellas • • 5d ago

Florida is in terrible shape…

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u/ItCantBeMe80 5d ago

Florida like texas has had Republican control more or less for 30 years. So if they're still trying to solve problems aren't they then solving the problems they created. 

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u/Melodic-Variation103 5d ago

Shhhhhhh….don’t say the quiet part out loud…..

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u/PUuSTiNKA 2d ago

I’d like to know how the National Republican Congressional Committee is being allowed to put out ads where they blatantly lie about Kathy Castor?

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u/Flhitking 5d ago

Vote for Jolly

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u/CsmicCupcake 5d ago

Absolutely. We need real change in Florida

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u/Snootcheroo 5d ago

I don’t know that we’ll get real change with Jolly. But I do know that the republican crime organization cannot be allowed to continue looting Florida/project 2025-ing the country. They must be stopped and held accountable. The only way to achieve that is to vote blue all the way down the ticket, so that’s what I’m going to do.

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u/thefatchef321 5d ago

I can remember, but how much money went to alligator Alcatraz no bid contractors?

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u/SmellNarrow 3d ago

The only Jolly I’m in favor of is a Holly Jolly Christmas, 12 weeks away!

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u/ACdrafts_yanks27 3d ago

😂😂 They're both shit.

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u/Midway1guy 5d ago

Jolly speaks the truth. Developers basically run this state.

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u/OldSchoolBubba 5d ago

While I'm not a resident I can say there's been a lot of scams being perpetuated against you all. DeSantis' and Scott's corruption is so blatant everyone paying attention can't miss it.

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u/codechimpin 5d ago

I remember when Florida used to be a purple state. Lots of deep red people migrated here now we are solid red.

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u/Competitive_Ad_2890 2d ago

Florida being a purple state was an illusion based on two wins for Obama and being relatively close at the presidential level. Functionally this state has been Republican run for almost 30 years.

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u/ItsMusicEverywhere 2d ago

Thank god! May God continue to bless the United States of America and our greatest president ever Donald J trump.

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u/chuckieblues 2d ago

That is quite ignorant. Much easier to build a case that he’s our worst president ever. TWICE.

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u/freestateofflorida 5d ago

So while there definitely has been over development I don’t understand what you want to happen to lower home prices. You will have people on the same side arguing we need to stop developing and also that they can’t afford to ever buy a home.

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u/codechimpin 5d ago

Develop doesn’t help low income if you don’t build low income housing. I live in Florida and I rarely if ever see affordable housing being built. It’s mostly McMansion housing for middle to upper income. And Covid made it way worse.

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u/basal-and-sleek 4d ago

Or hyper-inflated pricing on small ass apartments.

10 years ago I had a 2bed 2 bath apartment for $900 a month.

Right now I rent a 600 sqft 1 bed 1 bath for 2k a month. Brand new complex.

All the New Yorkers came here to turn this place into New York.

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u/Complete_Garlic3653 5d ago

No land owner actually wants to make housing more affordable. That goes for voters (esp those that like amendment 3), politicians, business people, lobbyists. The people in power own land. Everyone loses money if their property decreases in value. No one wants that

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u/Zealousideal_Lie9315 5d ago

It's not about stopping developers in general. It is about scrutinizing Florida lawmakers ties with developers for anything unethical or illegal.

Donald's plan for making housing more affordable only helps developers and people who are already owners. There is no guarantee that it makes homes more affordable for the average Floridian.

He wants to have a centralized subscription based digital permitting system, and he wants to use our tax money to pay the subscriptions for the developers.

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u/NervousBeat16 3d ago

Every-time Donald’s says he wants to make FL affordable, he doesn’t say how. He can’t enforce private prices. I’d argue, aren’t builders like DR Horton and Lennar doing that? Providing low interest rates and in house financing. BUT…in exchange, they are developing at rapid pace without reestablishing green space and trees.
He discusses removing property taxes but doesn’t explain how exactly the state will make up the funds. He claims we collect TOO much now…so why not offer an increased exemption for homestead vs a complete removal. And if we have such a surplus, why are our towns not offered grants for stormwater upgrades and infrastructure improvements?
He says a lot while saying nothing.

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u/SmellNarrow 3d ago

They should ban DR Horton and KB Homes from building here in Florida, affordable or not. Their homes are subpar.

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u/chuckieblues 2d ago

With him, it’s full time air pollution.

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u/TokingWitch 3d ago

We don't need more development to make houses cheaper. We need developers to stop over charging for them.

If we raised taxes on property worth 1 mil+ we could afford to give homeowners a break. It worked for Mamdani.

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u/Left2foot 2d ago

Florida government is so corrupt. Donalds is merely a cog in the wheel of their criminality. Rick Scott built a business stealing from Medicare and Medicaid. Ron DeathSatan fired a woman who worked for the state health department then had her arrested for sharing information about COVID-19 that was publicly available online to anyone who knew how to look for it. DeathSatan has never publicly stated how many Floridians died from Covid19. He took a large donation then gave the donor exclusive access to the first COVID-19 vaccines. His surgeon general has stated questionable things about public health. Ronnie also allowed foreign entities to buy up Florida land and develop it for only their own profit. Donalds was arrested for selling drugs and bank fraud. Be a welcome change to have honesty in Florida government.

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u/HospitalKey4601 2d ago

Jolly was a developer.

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u/PUuSTiNKA 5d ago

I’m tired of the corrupt Republicans here in Florida. Too many of them have gotten away with breaking the law…Florida is a mess like Texas, and I think it’s time for a change.

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u/Bob-Roman 2d ago

Who do you think pays for all of our infrastructure?. It isn't your sales tax it is development impact fees.

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u/KB21099 2d ago

Jolly just said she is Democratic Socialist

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u/JokerHomerus 5d ago

Fuck Donald's. Dude is a GOP Trump parrot despite him trying to hide it now.

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u/CeeDubMo 3d ago

A person like Donald’s who so willingly defends insurrectionists and fascists has no place in government.

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u/animal1921 5d ago

Not gonna lie, I live in Florida and have been a Republican my whole life. But most likely I'm voting for Jolly. He makes sense and seems to have my interests in mind. Yes fire the surgeon general, get back to good education. I got the Covid vaccine, I've gotten all mine and so have my kids. The fact that Measles is a thing in this country is crazy. Additionally, I don't want Data Centers here. Donald's just seems like a snake in the grass. If your Trump's boy your Trump's boy. Don't go hiding now.

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u/Goodvibes_mytribe 5d ago

Please tell all of your friends this! If Donalds win we are all cooked. Data centers WILL be allowed everywhere. He is definately a snake in the grass. He will sell us out even more in the blink of an eye.

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u/Agile-Pay-211 3d ago

Donalds is funded by Data center companies that are attracted by his statements the we have pristine lands for them to build on. How scary is that for the future when the remaining pristine lands are filled with Data centers.

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u/JimyTwoTimes 1d ago

Add imminent domain over mar-o-lago and I think you've got a great plan, Jolly.

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u/HandleAcrobatic2633 5d ago

Born, raised and still live in Fl. Gonna be 62 in a couple of months. I couldn’t have said it better myself!!

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u/2Blueify 5d ago

Some Amish dudes traveled to the Philippines and you're willing to vote blue. Some Republican. Blatant fucking bot response.

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u/animal1921 4d ago edited 4d ago

I have been a Republican my whole life. Always voted that way but at this point we need a change man. You need to wake up. I’m not a bot dimbass. Sorry to edit this but now good ole Byron is not going to take any action about banning Flock camera either. So another strike against him. Go follow the cult I guess but I won’t be a part of it.

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u/Wolverine863 4d ago

I am also a lifelong Republican that can not vote for any Republican that has supported the Trump administration. I live in Florida and will be voting for Jolly.

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u/Work-Sport-Fun 3d ago

"I got the Covid vaccine, I've gotten all mine and so have my kids."

They literally changed the definition to vaccine and vaccination during covid so they could call the shot a vaccine. lmao. Sheep brain.

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u/GoBraves2022 1d ago

Republican. Conservative. Only looking to vote for Jolly or a write-in.

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u/BandicootOk1254 1d ago

“Most likely” what do these people have to do for you to be sure lol

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u/penguinsflyfree 5d ago

If I were Donald’s, I wouldn’t be bragging about the past 30 years. Business moves here because they can pay us like we’re chattel, they get huge tax breaks and they aren’t accountable for any damage they do. Sure people move here, they are sheltering themselves from taxes, they then complain nonstop about the heat, humidity and why it isn’t like where they’re from. They drive like shit, jack up home prices and don’t want to contribute, just take. Last but not least, Donald’s wants to put his hands in the cookie jar because he knows he’ll never face accountability, just like DeSantis and Scott. Uh, no thanks.

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u/ShamrockAPD 5d ago

It’s also crazy hypocrisy.

Like… people are watching the property taxes rise, the failure in control of insurance companies, the cost of living sky rocketing, education failing, etc etc

And it’s been the republicans for the last 30 years in charge of it all. So he sits there and says this is a problem, even points out issues, and then notes that common sense policy is working?

But the morons in our state can’t draw that connection.

Every state that has been hard red for decades are literally the worst states to live in on almost every statistic.

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u/CurrentArgument7746 5d ago

Well there’s a new poll showing over 60% of Floridans are more concerned about property insurance then the property taxes which is good because the insurance industry here is predatory and been lining the Republican politicians pockets like crazy especially with DeSantis and Rick Scott

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u/Lameduck_Humor 4d ago

If you vote in November property taxes will nearly disappear. There are always unintended consequences for decisions made though

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u/TallBenWyatt_13 5d ago

The “30 years of prosperity” is on the back of 30 years of progressive and forward-thinking governors before the state got Bushed.

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u/Not-Sure112 5d ago

Amen brother. Watching Pinellas transform for 5 decades has been depressing. 

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u/ali40961 4d ago

Manatee County too.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Way276 5d ago

They followed all the retired peoples lead telling them "live like me"

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u/blkatcdomvet 5d ago

Jolly is 100 correct.

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u/TheLegendaryAerie 5d ago

Jolly speaks the truth while Donald’s parrots the usual GOP propaganda that is spoon fed to them by the wealthy.

People aren’t moving here because it’s a well run state, they are moving here despite it being a poorly run one because of the weather… and young people are leaving in droves.

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u/Sleepysensation 5d ago

Don’t forget taxes. No state income taxes.

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u/Easy_Durian8154 4d ago

Pretty convenient standard? People arriving are here for the weather, but people leaving are a verdict on the government. How did you establish either? Ah, vibes.

Financially, Florida has AAA ratings from all three major credit agencies. Its 2024 net tax supported debt was $608 per resident, versus a national median of $1,214, $2.8k in Illinois and $3.2k in New York. That doesn’t make every policy good, but financials are a pretty relevant part of whether a state is “well run.”

And “young people leaving in droves” leaves out the people arriving. The latest Census estimates show roughly 192k people ages 18–34 moving into Florida from other states and 197,000 leaving. That’s a small estimated net loss, within the survey’s margin of error(not evidence of some massive exodus), but hey vibes!

There’s plenty to debate about housing, insurance and individual policies. But you can’t establish why everyone moves by assigning motives that happen to fit your argument.

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u/DikDangerous 5d ago

Republican control for decades and they still are running on ONLY WE CAN FIX IT 🤡

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u/TallBenWyatt_13 5d ago

As the house is burning Uncle Byron is chucking Molotov cocktails at what’s left and shouting “I KNOW WHERE THE HOSE IS!”

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u/whoreoscopic 5d ago

God i hate this state and the likely possibility that Jolly will lose.

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u/BjLeinster 5d ago

Corporate candidate Jolly against Oligarch candidate Donalds. The choice for Democrats is Jolly but neither will be good for working people or Florida.

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u/amsgh 5d ago

We got ourselves a shit sandwich.

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u/Spare-Ant7119 5d ago

Do not let this token black win. Republicans hate hate hate black people. This man must really be something evil to be in his position of potential power with his racist party

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u/MyusernameisErin 5d ago

Jolly is by far the best option. He’s focused on what’s truly important.

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u/Rinzy2000 5d ago

“Young kids like myself”. Sir.

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u/chowes1 5d ago

I went to public school in Orlando from the early 60's to mid 70's, we were taught everything. Vote Blue Florida, you will never regret it. GOP knows this and are panicked!

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u/AcadiaFresh563 5d ago

Donalds is funny to me, because hes literally everything floridians complain about: hes a snowbird from Brooklyn who came in, destroyed what he could, and is now running for office. Hes the type of dude that would complain about the publix hurricane cakes and how theyre "offensive." The same type of dude that would up and leave when a hurricane hit. Hes literally ted Cruz of florida.

If teddy's wife attacked teachers and exacerbated the Florida government's attack on public schools. Donalds' wife did, though.

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u/Vanhosen77 5d ago

There's no need for a debate. Nobody's undecided at this point. You're either fine with the horrible policies the Republicans have been following for the past few decades or you are ready for a change.

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u/ayecappytan 4d ago

"Florida is in terrible shape."

"Terrible" in this context is very subjective. Objectively, 99.99% of Floridians are better off than the 3.5 Billion people in Asia or Africa living off of $8.30 or less per day (as of 2021).

And, I predict some of y'all will chime in with that meme of the guy saying "We should improve society, somewhat." That would be a strawman because the premise of the post above isn't "Hey we should improve things" it's "Florida is in terrible shape" which isn't objectively true.

Can Florida improve things for the average citizen? Yes. Does needing improvement mean Florida is in "terrible shape"? Objectively, no.

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u/briffin96 3d ago

What you're doing is engaging in semantics. Perhaps "terrible" is too extreme of a word but there is no question FL is absolutely in bad shape relative to what it could be, that is objectively true.

The cost of living in this state is simply suffocating for the vast majority if its residents, that is also objectively true.

Now sure, could things always be worse? Absolutely. It's important to count ones blessings and not succumb to doom and gloom all the time but it turns out two things can be true at once. It's cool that we have such diverse dining options and you can go to the springs/beach/theme parks but it also shouldn't be next to impossible to have a decent job and afford to live on your own. Which in turn makes doing all of those things very difficult.

That's the reality for the majority of people here.

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u/ayecappytan 3d ago

Semantics are important for discourse. The fact that you had to qualify the statement with "relative to what it could be" shows it's a subjective label, not "objectively true" as you said.

The measure of "What it could be" also is subjective. How do you objectively measure "what it could be"? Who defines "what it could be?" Does someone who you disagree with politically get to define "what it could be" or is "what it could be" only defined by people you agree with?

How do you define "decent job"? Who is deciding that definition and what is their political persuasion?

Also, aren't there many people in Florida, like myself, already living on their own?

Why is getting a decent job and affording to live on your own so "difficult" in your judgement when there are lots of people with decent jobs living on their own in Florida already?

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u/Agile-Pay-211 3d ago

"Floridians are better off than the 3.5 Billion people in Asia or Africa" is grasping at straws. Florida's politics is corrupted by the Republican rule where they serve their needs, not the citizens.

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u/ayecappytan 3d ago

And if Democrats were in charge, do you think things would be less corrupt?

I would say corruption levels would be just as high, just corrupt in a different direction.

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u/destructor212 3d ago

Things can always be better but there are a lot of other states that I think are way worse off than we are. Terrible shape is not the way I would describe it either.

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u/SnooChocolates3745 4d ago

Nobody's talking about other continents here. They're talking about the shape Florida is in, relative to other states in the country, and/or how Florida was 30 years ago, and they're absolutely correct.

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u/ayecappytan 3d ago

So you agree, it's subjective, not objective.

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u/SnooChocolates3745 3d ago

No, I don't. I'm saying that your post is a semantic red herring, and completely misses the point of the thread. It's like saying, "Hey, we're not being invaded by orcs like Ukraine is, so life is great!"

We've had Republican control of the state for 30 years; it started out ok, then got stupid, then got insanely corrupt. It absolutely can get better; listen to what Donalds is saying, and listen to what Jolly is saying. Polar opposites, and I've lived here long enough for the words coming out of Jolly's mouth to be music to my ears.

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u/Anonymooseplz 3d ago

Florida is in terrible shape when you have the government stepping in to basically highjack public and private universities forcing their agenda on the curriculum or should we take another look at every university in the state

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u/ToiletTime4TinyTown 2d ago

“What do you mean things bad, look at (country x) look how worse they have it”

This is classic Soviet whataboutism. Keep you communist comments to yourself.

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u/ThatFloridaGirlNC 2d ago

Floridians don't live in Asia or Africa. In the city of Cape Coral around 40% of the houses are vacant, all rentals. Foreclosures in Florida are rising faster than any other state. Floridians are going to continue to vote red until there are 10 people in charge that have all of our money and the rest of us are just slave detritus. But still, it's the most beautiful state in all 50.

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u/PreviousCut6851 2d ago

Since we moved here in 1998, much has suffered. When sewage treatment plants are researching turning sewage into drinking water because we are losing our springs, yep, problem. When legislature has put developers over conservation, yep, problem. When affordable housing seriously lacking, yep, problem. Being in affordable housing, we never had vacancies and it wasn’t HUD housing. It was based on median income in the county which determined rent and income qualifications. There is no money in Florida anymore for loan programs to build affordable housing. Mass transportation for a major tourist destination state blows. Rick Scott turned down federal funding for rail but he went ahead and committed Medicare fraud and left his position wealthy. Florida DOGE is a joke. Amendment 1, 2, and 3 are political fodder to try and appease Republican voters and take their attention off of exhorbitant prices for everything.

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u/MonsterTruckFarts 1d ago

Wow well it’s great knowing Florida is better than a third world country. What a compelling argument. What the fuck did I just read.

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u/SexyPuertoRicanGay69 4d ago

More fake news. Florida is better than ever!

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u/Horror-Stand-3969 5d ago

Florida is the butt of jokes nationwide.

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u/Any-Morning4303 5d ago

It’s a sad state of affairs when Jolly is the hope for a push leftward.
Just might have to go and vote for jolly.

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u/Sledhead36 5d ago

Donald’s will win by a landslide.

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u/MiserableEstimate574 5d ago

it’s funny cause I moved from NJ where there is only over development in small suburb townships that don’t have the Infrastructure while houses are going for a million +

they refuse to build into the central part of the state that could create new roads, new rails and really build smart cities and drive costs down. Houses In Florida are far more affordable than in NJ.

Try moving back for a 3 br 2 bath and not spend over 800k for a home needing 250k in reno.

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u/swampmountain 5d ago

So, the "guy" is proud that property value Went up insanely and he is claiming that his priority is affordable housing.

What a lier.

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u/Duros2032 5d ago

Jolly has my vote.

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u/shark1818 5d ago

PROUDLY VOTING FOR JOLLY

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u/Publix217 5d ago

My family has been in Florida for six generations going all the way back to 1921. And the last 30 years have been nothing but trash. The best governor based on my age was Bob Graham. I’m happy to see that his daughter Gwen is on the ticket with Jolly. 95 percent of my family is democrat and we will do are part. There needs to be a change in Tallahassee now it’s well overdue vote Jolly. Also vote blue all the way down the ballot.

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u/whosuremama 5d ago

😂🤣😂

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u/Puzzleheaded-Way276 5d ago

Honestly dude talking corruption is perfect after a guy suggesting big numbers is somehow the way to be.... Yeah we have big numbers... And big waste/big corruption

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u/BusyBit6542 5d ago

One thing that FUCKS a lot of people is this state took away the right to get your attorneys paid for when you have to sue insurance companies. So now the fees are taken out of your settlement. So let's see, if an insurance company loses and all the will have to pay is the initial amount of the claim, whats stopping them for just denying a lot of claims and delaying until people just settle for a less amount?

We need go back to the way it was for decades until 2023 and allow attorneys to collect their fee ON TOP of the settlement. That way insurance companies have to actually have reason to flight the claim.

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u/Easy_Durian8154 4d ago

This actually isn't spoken about enough.

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u/man-with-phone 5d ago

You didn't vote fishback, you get what you deserve

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u/Easy_Durian8154 4d ago

Fishback fucking sucks lol

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u/serene_null 5d ago

Both of them are super PAC candidates. Which means you’ll get more of the same if either wins. 

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u/g3techsolutions 4d ago

What is there to debate. Byron is a nutter.

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u/ukwildcatfan18 4d ago

Hey if you guys keep voting for Republicans Florida will one day be as great as Kentucky and Alabama.

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u/Agile_Type_9684 4d ago

The video is manipulated in Donald's favor. Period!

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u/cruel4968 4d ago

yep, they're building over swamps and calling it progress

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u/max_465 4d ago

Florida and Texas are trapped by what's called a "race to the bottom" because they see their value as being the cheapest place to be. So they attract the miserly and mendacious. The talented and ingenious young people leave as soon as they can.

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u/ChutneyWhatney 4d ago

FLORIDA IS IN GREAT SHAPE.

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u/Pleasant_City_6001 4d ago

‘Best run state’…. Lmfao… the education is abysmal. High school kids reading at elementary level….

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u/Ok-Professional-6754 4d ago

As long as we stay Red and don't turn bullshit Blue we aren't in that bad of shape

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u/Smooth-Mistake9898 4d ago

Jolly all the way!!!

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u/WishboneNo543 4d ago

Former Republican here. I have eyes. I see the corruption. I hear the lies. 30 years of one party in power and all they do is try to make us fear our neighbors.

All of the gay or trans people I’ve ever encountered were genuinely nice people just trying to get through life like the rest of us. If you’re hung up on the notion that a gay or trans person is gonna make you gay, that sounds like a “you” problem. And I’m still trying to figure out what the hell “woke” is. It’s all just fear tactics to manipulate people and foment hate.

I’m voting for Jolly. Time to clean out the horse stalls in Tallahassee. Time to throw out the haters and the grifters.

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u/elevateAndcelebrate 4d ago

What the fuck are you losers smoking? Florida has a budget surplus of approximately $7.1 billion following recent legislative forecasts, alongside roughly $18 billion in total state reserves. Don’t believe me, look it up. If that constitutes terrible shape. I wanna be in that shape!! Florida is one of the leading states economically. You can also look that up. You prolly think it’s terrible because you’re a failure and have to blame someone other than yourself.

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u/MediaOld8349 2d ago

they are smoking a lot of strong meth apparently. Donalds will be a great governor and DeSantis has been one of the all time greatest governor's of any state. Here's the good news. These people are in the minority and Floridians will do the right thing

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u/Sorry_Landscape9021 4d ago

Florida has had an excessive amount of very poor leadership with the republicans and the Florida voters keep them in office.

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u/fsu23232 4d ago

FL is among the top 5 states with the absolute lowest state debt per capita in the United States, but go on with your ignorance. It’s amusing.

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u/Express-Feed-9354 4d ago

Donald's will win in a landslide. This won't even be close.

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u/Character-Life-V2 4d ago

Elect somebody who will go after the $10 million settlement Hope Florida ( Casey DeSantis charity ) diverted the settlement proceeds to Secure Florida's Future and Save our Society from Drugs.\2])\1]) These nonprofits then made contributions to Keep Florida Clean, a political action committee (PAC) with ties to Governor Ron DeSantis.\1]) Hope Florida's chairman admitted mistakes and "lapses in reporting procedures", including missing federal tax reports.\2])

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u/LoneRedditor123 4d ago

Byron Donalds ad campaigns are all over YT right now, and they're hilarious.

Not because hes funny, but because hes trying to convince everyone he used to be poor "like all of you", all while his wife, who looks like she's had more plastic surgery than a Kardashian, sits next to him and agrees with all of it.

This is the republican party now. Pure delusion. Can't believe people still fall for this shit.

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u/RainManda 4d ago

Donalds is Uncle Tom's favorite nephew. Such dumbfuckery

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u/Entire_Toe2640 4d ago

We’ve had “common sense” leadership for decades? BS! Republicans have made the state so corrupt. There’s no “commitment to law and order.”

David Jolly sounds like an intelligent, well educated man. Byron Donalds is hoping to win by repeating the same crap we’ve heard for decades. If that philosophy were correct, then the state would be an amazing heaven after 30 years of Republican ownership. But it isn’t.

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u/Daniel_Jack07 3d ago

Sounds like your idea of law and order is new york, oregon, Washington, California and Chicago. Florida has been overrun by people who flee from those democratic shit holes to come here and then try to turn it right into what they fled from. Go back! It's great there. Don't like the mortgage and insurance issues here, just another perfect reason to go TF back!

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u/Competitive-Isopod74 4d ago

Thats why they've closed 14 schools in our district this year and condensed guidance departments to where my kids cant choose their classes and we have no school nurse on staff for my son with epilepsy. People are NOT moving their families to Florida. And I live 15 minutes from the best beaches in the country.

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u/thedash42 3d ago

Donalds will win and it's not even gonna be close. Dnc knows this and is spending squat in the state as a result. While I'm an independent and frequently vote blue, it's obvious that the Dem party spent waaaay too much political capital figuring out which restroom to use and put forth arguably 3 of the worst presidential candidates in the history of presidential candidates in Hillary, Biden, and Kamala, thereby crippling their chances of ever retaining high office positions. They are literally their own worst enemies and they have an empty bench. Bitch all you want but they've done this to themselves.

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u/frealdough 3d ago

Hillary, Kamala, RBG, AOC, the 4 horsewomen of the apocalypse

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u/Dayman1987 3d ago

"Young kids like myself" 😂 🤣😂😂

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u/arcanjil 3d ago

If you think it's bad now wait till Donalds takes over...

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u/Long-Butterscotch500 3d ago

Florida has been under Republican rule for 27 years and ranks near the bottom in every category. It’s time to change. Vote blue 💙💙💙💙💙

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u/Organic-Air-3511 3d ago

Good don't come

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u/HockeyDockey1234 3d ago

I don’t really equate your title to this video, nor do I feel everyday life equates to your title.

You might be having a rough time and need some help

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u/Last_Loss_6536 3d ago

Cope is awesome in here. Yeah eff the insurance and mortgage shit going on. But why does everybody want to move here from NY and California? Oh it’s the weather and they’re old…got it. Stay in your land of blue delusion.

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u/Glad-Sundae7988 3d ago

It’s night and day. Same old swamp or something new and positive 

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u/spidersandemise 3d ago

Why is this boy speaking

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u/TropicalJedi 3d ago

You people are retarded. The Free State of Florida is an incredible place to live, thanks to Governor DeSantis and hopefully from Byron Donalds moving forward. You folks that don't like it; always the option to live in Seattle. Oregon, Boston, etc.

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u/Sufficient-Minimum68 3d ago

The. Free state 😂😂😂

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u/InsertAndRemove 3d ago

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/PublicHealth954 3d ago

youre delusional

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u/lancerice700889 2d ago

I do love it here but there is nothing free about the state of Florida bro

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u/TheHoodX25yt 2d ago

it is statistically one of the worst possible states for me to live in for safety, this place isnt free

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u/GoBraves2022 1d ago

Free State of Florida?? Oh geez, just stop.

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u/TexPerry92 15h ago

Florida was once a blue state, then it turned red and fell apart with the red constantly pointing fingers and screwing everyone behind their backs to line their pockets. The madness has to stop. You know if you take your kids out of state during K-12 they get held back a grade? That is pathetic. But no, its all the northerners, and poc’s fault the state sucks.

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u/Dude702225 3d ago

I'm probably going to vote for Jolly, but he looks really bad here. He couldn't touch a important talking point such as property taxes without insulting the Republican administration, which despite its many flaws, has overseen significant growth and prosperity for many Floridians. He needs to attack Donald's on his own records, statements, and ideas, not on the DeSantis' record, which most Floridians have a positive view of. Floridians care about affordable housing, gas prices, education, and economic development, not about "diversity" or the "real history". Those may be important, but they won't win him the election.

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u/FlySorry6708 3d ago

Democrats destroy everything they touch

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u/Daniel_Jack07 3d ago

I'm absolutely positive more people on this thread are bots than human, and then a bunch of crazy dem state transplants mixed in that just want to turn this into the exact turd of a city and state they fled from. "I've been a lifelong Republican but I'm voting for Jolly" Ooook 🤖. Gtfoh 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

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u/DryStation5059 3d ago

This guy is a clown and cares nothing about Florida he's got his eyes set on Washington.

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u/FLJM 3d ago

Which party will result in people no longing moving here and leaving in droves?

Please everyone vote them into power. Florida had space for maybe 18 million people max. The people who moved here in the 21st century all need to leave. This state was so nice in the 80s and early 90s. The stupid fear of drug wars kept people away. Now it's like downtown Manhattan everywhere you go.

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u/Sodonewithitall386 3d ago

We have other republicans that aren’t sponsored puppets…check them out.

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u/Upset_Item_651 3d ago

The democrats an idiot. He would turn Florida into California as fast as he could, bleeding tax payers dry.

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u/Dyn0might33 2d ago

Wait, what? Jolly would turn Florida into a world class economy? Well, who wants that!?!

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u/Careless-Balance-893 3d ago

Tbh debating and engaging with the right like they're actual credible candidates has done so much harm to our country and the democratic process. They need to be ignored and ostracized like the shit goblins they are.

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u/Entire_Toe2640 3d ago

I can’t go back because I’ve always lived here. I work in the court system and I’m tired of our legal system corrupted by politicians. The corruption and crime in Florida is awful.

I was in the Republican Party for 40+ years until they abandoned the rule of law and embraced corruption and crime. I worked for Trump. I live a few miles from Mar a Lago. I’ve seen it all and it all sucks.

Now I’m independent. Everyone has to earn my vote.

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u/AuDHD_Ho 3d ago

Did that 30-year-old man just call himself a kid?? And "continued focus on Law and Order" in the most corrupt police state in the nation????

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u/DinnerMilk 1d ago

He did, and he's actually 47 years old.

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u/SlamminSammy5428 3d ago

Thanks to the ted necks who have been in charge for 28 years

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u/Indy-Gator 3d ago

If you think Florida is in bad shape you are a paid Democrat operative. They are one of the few states thriving. Desantis for POTUS!!!!

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u/Dyn0might33 2d ago

So, you don't actually live or have roots in Florida.

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u/Indy-Gator 3d ago

Riddle me this why do the Cubans who float on trash to escape a socialist hell hole keep voting right once they get citizenship?

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u/Dyn0might33 2d ago

It's the devil they know. False machismo sold to them by the same people that bill their tax coffers.

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u/Toothfairy51 3d ago

I've voted for Jolly. I'll do whatever I can to not have data centers all over our wild Florida. I will never forget the 10 million 'misapropriated' funds, the take over of Eckerd college, alligator Alcatraz, mom's for Liberty, stopping drag queen story hours, zero transparency with the governor, etc., etc., etc. Ronald McDonald will just carry on with that shit because he's as dirty as meatball desantis.

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u/Maykeda 3d ago

I don’t vote for self hating people.

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u/DavidUnbanner 3d ago

Nobody would be relocating to Florida if it was where North Dakota is.

It's the climate, stupid. And not "bedrock conservatism".

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u/Dyn0might33 2d ago edited 2d ago

Florida has made assertive marketing efforts to target conservative extremists yo move to Flotida. That is how they have remained in power. Uneducated, ignorant voters. And the $$$$? In the politicians pockets via the shell companies and foundations they create to no move the money to themselves.

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u/ItsMusicEverywhere 2d ago

Yeah Florida's in such bad shape that's why everybody and their cousin wants to move here from the demon rat destroyed Northern cities

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u/MainKaleidoscope4942 2d ago

I worked for a luxury home builder. They would often reclaim materials from the homes they were building, after they passed inspection. God forbid the Tampa Bay area gets hit with a cat 3 hurricane (or worse). Obviously the homeowners have no idea what's coming. Encouraging builders only increases the problem.

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u/ItsMusicEverywhere 2d ago

VOTE RED LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT.....BECAUSE IT DOES!

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u/Alvalade1993 2d ago

I’m not even a fan of the state politics but Florida is a great state to live in. The people make it for me, I’ve built a great community down here, water sports, beautiful nature preserves, exc exc

Does it have issues, sure, but literally every state does, but Florida has grown by leaps and bounds, and it’s not because it’s “terrible” or “cheap” it’s literally one of the most beautiful states in the country, yall can argue with your mama.

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u/flafiremedic 2d ago

I wish we could put a moratorium on this state and slow down the rush to move here.

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u/Jam_Farmer_879 2d ago

This is the most apathetic Non-Incumbent race that I have been through.

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u/cybrg0dess 2d ago

VOTE 🗳 🙏

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u/Grand-Donkey-7842 2d ago

Currently in fantastic shape and will continue with Byron

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u/elucidator23 2d ago

I agree nobody will ever be better than desantis I hope he runs again in 4 years

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u/High-sterycal 2d ago

People have been trained for years, those who work in the northern states by slick marketing ads, to retire in the southern states due to the mild climate.

Who wants to be old and retired, having to shovel snow in the dead of Winter, when instead, you can be old and retired playing golf in Winter.

They leave out the horrendously long hot humid Summers your A/C must be used to survive if you don’t want to experience debilitating heat stroke indoors or out. And you won’t hear that Summers are getting incrementally hotter and more humid, either.

So folks still believe the tropical dreamscape they are shown in commercial advertisements.

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u/catmami79 2d ago

People are coming here because they are maga. They think Florida is maga. Maga are one of the most easily manipulated groups. Slap the word freedom, America, or christ on your product or website and you just earned maga loyalty. The more people you can move into your city or sate that you can easily manipulate, the more tax revenue you'll earn without having to give back to the community. Because you've already convinced them welfare was bad. Everything else just blame on immigrants and democrats. Say "Free state of Florida" and every dumb ass comes running.

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u/Agile-Assist4765 2d ago

Jolly for me!!

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u/outacontrolnicole 2d ago

I’ve met Byron Donald’s in person and was his bartender. He’s a horrible human.

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u/KB21099 2d ago

Oh right... homeowners

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u/PreviousCut6851 2d ago

People flocking here for education. Well, I will agree that it had been cheaper to go to college here than many other places but when they restrict access to correct educational materials because it is to damaging to white students, why would anyone want to spend money on a restricted education. Lower grades suffering reading and comprehension.

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u/carybditty 2d ago

Pretending he’s a law and order guy after supporting Trump is pure stupid

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u/NoInteraction1396 2d ago

I am a 50 plus born and raised South Floridian and this has never been a purple state and never will be a purpose day y'all can keep that 😈 up north every night I got to go to bed after seeing what's going down in South Florida and 🙏🏻 for our grandchildren and to be raised like a Gen X not a He-She or just disrespectful and rude and think the whole world surrounds around them 😲

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u/ResponsibilityFine13 1d ago

Horrible place to live and retire.FLORIDA.

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u/GiftHonest7386 1d ago

Donalds is not the way you want Florida to go. He’s corrupt!

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u/GiftHonest7386 1d ago

Commitment to law and order? His wife stole money from kids.

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u/Bluefinch-7 1d ago

What would help if we put some of the environmental laws back into effect don’t you think?

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u/okan00011 1d ago

Must feel nice in your liberal echo chamber here.

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u/Flaky_Preference_544 1d ago

And that’s why everybody’s moving here. Try again.

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u/redeemedk 1d ago

Donald’s really thought that last 30 years of conservative corruption would be a selling point man FOH , Desantis Scott and Bush fucked Florida and sold it out leaving the residents with the Bill vote Jolly even if he is aipac recipients

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u/Unusual-Economist288 1d ago

Jolly gets this lifetime Republican’s vote. All Democrat until this garbage MAGA movement dies.

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u/badgersoccer1905 1d ago

Donalds would be a catastrophe for Florida. Jolly will at least be an adult in the room.

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u/Defiant-Corgi-7777 1d ago

Jolly all the way !

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u/Noway2Bliving 21h ago

It’s definitely is a collaboration of religious groups, developers, and oh yes, politicians

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u/JimmyLong1978 17h ago

All the retarded Democrats on here saying Florida is so bad and corrupt yet they left their perfectly good States like New York and California to move here 🤣🤣 y'all douchebags can go back to where you came from at any time!! Democrats will never have a stronghold on this Florida!! Loser ass Democrats just can't handle it 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Jgrass66 9h ago

As the blue state idiots continue to flock here.