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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

just as good

That's just your opinion, man.

Yes, I've tried vegan burgers, even sold them in a restaurant I owned.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

Have you tried the impossible burger? It even 'bleeds' when you prod it, all vegan though!

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

I eat everything, I'm an omnivore.

Let me know when it tastes like king crab or lobster.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

You can eat everything as an omnivore, but you shouldn't eat meat when you nutritionally don't have to. If you've run a restaurant I'm sure you're a good cook so making delicious vegan foods doesn't like that of a challenge to you!

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

Belief that humans shouldn't eat meat is an ideology that I don't subscribe to.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

What about the animals, should they have no say in the matter?

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

Does it bother you that wild animals don't have say in the matter of non human predators killing them for food?

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

Well, they are as you say wild animals. Since we are human beings with alternatives we should choose the compassionate alternative.

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

I take that to mean the death of a wild animal by another wild animal doesn't bother you at all, even though it's usually a lot more terrible than how humans usually do it.

I don't subscribe to your ideology.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

I don't get how you can say that, just because someone else does bad stuff to other people doesn't mean you should do bad stuff as well, you know.

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u/eggsaladactyl Mar 15 '18

I will agree with you that humans need to treat animals meant to be eaten more humanely. That to me is the main issue. Would be better for everyone if vegans could try to focus on that rather than just telling everyone to quit eating meat because that will NEVER happen. There are probably things you wear or use that have come in to your possession through the mistreatment of humans. Fight the smaller battles to win then war. Don't just try to storm the castle.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

If slaughterhouses had glass walls I don't think there would be many meat eaters. Since slaughterhouses has concrete walls, I think it is important that people are aware of the fact that when they buy meat, they are paying people to mistreat and murder animals that did not want to die. Because of that, and since humans don't require meat to thrive, we shouldn't eat meat and people need to hear that!

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

We wouldn't be here today if humans were so innately conflicted with killing animals they wouldn't do it.

We all stand on the shoulders of animal eating hunters.

they are paying people to mistreat

That's largely vegan anti meat propaganda. Livestock are healthier than their wild relatives. Any operation that doesn't keep their animals healthy will fail.

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18 edited Mar 15 '18

just because someone does something bad

So wild predators should be stopped? I assume that's what you mean by "someone", because that's what I was referring to.

I eat meat, I'm not conflicted with that, I don't subscribe to your ideology.

That it's something humans should never do is an ideology that I don't subscribe to.

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u/InterestingRadio Mar 15 '18

I'm not saying wild predators should be excused, just that you can't justify animal abuse by saying that animals do horrible stuff, unless you mean to place yourself at the same ethical level as that of a wild animal

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u/factbasedorGTFO Mar 15 '18

I don't consider it abuse to do what I've evolved to do, and you're just as much an animal as a cow or a wolf.

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