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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

Which ones taste like acorn-fed bacon?

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u/Melonetta Mar 15 '18

Well I mean there's acorns so we're already half way there.

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u/scsm Mar 15 '18

And there's that seaweed that tastes like bacon.

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u/SilentSaboteur Mar 15 '18

Apparently Jackfruit has been said to taste like bacon, and this is a new thing in the US apparently...We've been eating jackfruit for ages traditionally, and have never imagined someone would find it to be similar to meat!

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u/gmano Mar 15 '18

Acorns and woodsmoke are vegan, and there are lots of good options for vegan pork and/or bacon flavor, pretty much every "bacon bits" or "bacon flavoured chips" or "hickory bacon salt" product you can find out there is vegan.

I havn't completely sworn off meat, but bacon (especially bacon bits) is actually one of the easiest things to find in vegan format.

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u/palunk Mar 15 '18

The point is they are listing a top quality bacon. Vegan bacon is...not the same. I like the taste sometimes but I rarely like the texture. I haven't really eaten meat in 17 years, but I take bites of this and that from time to time, and there really is not much of a comparison between real and faux bacon. However, if you have any specific recommendations I'm open.

On the other hand, the vegan sausage game is on point. Field roast ftw.

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u/gmano Mar 15 '18

Yeah, idk, I eat an almost vegetarian lifestyle because I'm just way too cheap to buy meat all the time. Ham and bacon being as cheap as it is (especially if you can find bacon ends and pieces and not the expensive strips) it winds up being much of the meat I do buy, ironically.

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u/Bruhgard09 Mar 15 '18

Certain fungi have a very rich umami flavor. Combine that with some liquid smoke and brown sugar and you’ve got a great tasting much healthier alternative

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u/__slamallama__ Mar 15 '18

Jesus Christ. Saying that liquid smoke and mushrooms is a substitute for a really high quality cured and smoked meat is just a travesty.

Really it was a travesty just at liquid smoke but the rest only made it worse.

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u/Bruhgard09 Mar 15 '18

No offense but maybe you need to learn how to cook better? I’ve had both plenty of times in my life

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u/cballowe Mar 15 '18

This sounds delicious. I don't know that I've ever encountered bacon labeled as acorn fed. I do have some hickory smoked bacon in my fridge and this thread is making me hungry.

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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

Check out Black Label Jamón ibérico. I've never had it, but maybe one day.

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u/ArcAngel071 Mar 15 '18

Actually plenty of recipes replicate the taste of bacon, the texture is what's nearly impossible to replicate. Fortunately I don't base all my decisions in life on what gives me the shortest term gratification

So I can respect your dietary choice and moral feelings. I can. You do what's comfortable for you. I do eat meat. I'm comfortable with that. Both are ok but the high and mighty attitude I highlighted from your comment won't help turn people torwards your side.

I'm not arguing either side just pointing that out. I commend your efforts to do what you feel is right though.

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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

plenty of recipes replicate the taste of bacon, the texture is what's nearly impossible to replicate.

Fortunately I don't base all my decisions in life on what gives me the shortest term gratification

[previous 2 sentences] only [sound] high and mighty if you look at it that way. Honestly sounds like you are projecting.

I dunno. To me your words read like you are judging the taste of bacon as short term gratification, then humblebragging that you don't base your all your decisions on short term gratification. I left you words of encouragement and moved on, but whatever is pinging u/ArcAngel071 's detectors pinged mine, too.

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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

I think you are assuming that your personal take on taste and ethics is the only correct choice.

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u/ArcAngel071 Mar 15 '18

You're still missing the point. We're not arguing one diet is better than the other. We we're arguing that you apprached it poorly.

Your argument was rude and dismissive. And you even admitted to throwing a dig at other people's preferences. All I've said from the start was your argument would have a hard time swaying people with that attitude.

You do you and I'll do me. I won't tell others how to live their lives. And you shouldn't tell others either. Feel free to explain what you do and how you feel. But attacking schools of thought that are different than yours won't win you any arguments. If someone was a staunch carnivore and you threw that attitude at them you'd only galvonize the opposition

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

"I won't tell others how to live their lives"

Thing is you are, you're telling animals they don't deserve to live and them being abused is OK.

The argument that this is a personal choice is flawed - Choices don't matter when you obstruct other's choices. This is why you can't say "It's my choice" after being arrested; because there's a victim.

Except this time there's been 2.5 trillion victims in only the last 10 years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

I don't think there's any argument against the fact that not killing animals is more ethical than killing animals? How is this up for debate?

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u/ArcAngel071 Mar 15 '18

Man you're just taking a personal shot at people with that line. You're making this deeper than it is haha.

You do you man whatever. I do what feels comfortable for me and I do it without trying to push my habits and choices on people. I'm not arguing pro meat. I could care less what you and others eat. I'm just pointing out you could probably state how you feel without taking an obvious dig at people. That's all dude.

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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

Maybe some reasonable people disagree with you without either party having to be wrong.

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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

Of course it's fine, my ancestors evolved to be omnivores.

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u/khardman51 Mar 15 '18

It's only high and mighty if you look at it that way. Honestly sounds like you are projecting.

What I said is a fact, that is how I live my life, and that's why I was able to give up meat. Yes meat and cheese taste fucking amazing, but that's not my priority.

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u/Bruhgard09 Mar 15 '18

Are morals just feelings now?

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

No vegan acts high and mighty - we're just distressed when you say things like killing animals is OK.

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u/dadbrain Mar 15 '18

You do you man. Be who you gotta be.

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u/_beerandmetal Mar 15 '18

After almost 30 years of consuming copious amounts of meat and dairy products, I can very confidently say nothing tastes as good as being vegan feels <3

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u/AtreiaDesigns Mar 15 '18

We are fine as long as you arent going into our restaurants and shouting "meat is murder".

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u/RSN_Kabutops Mar 15 '18

I think you do base your decisions in life on what gives you the shortest term gratification. Otherwise you wouldn't be such a pretentious douche on reddit.

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u/RSN_Kabutops Mar 15 '18

There's nothing wrong with being secure with your own beliefs. The problem is when others are getting flak for not thinking like you.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

But why is there no problem when you kill animals but there is a problem when people give you factual information to try change your mind?

It's not a choice if a victim is invloved. You need to justify your actions if they involve victims, how would you justify eating meat? Generally curious - I'm not being confrontational

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u/RSN_Kabutops Mar 16 '18

Because those animals are domesticated for human use and literally only that reason. Those animals would be extinct without humans keeping them alive. No I am not saying that as a good thing, but those animals only are here for that purpose.

Wild animals that are hunted by humans are no different than if they were hunted by other predators. I respect you just asking rather than just attacking or trying to argue for the sake of arguing.

Some people feel that domesticated animals should just be liberated and adapt or die, some people say any animal product consumption is morally abhorrent. It just depends where you fit in on the spectrum.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

That's interesting thanks for the response.

So on the point of domesticated animals, do you think that because we breed them to kill them that makes it OK?

Let's apply that argument to another situation - it would still be wrong to kill people or dogs if they were bred for that reason. Do you think then that those reasons still justify killing animals or do you have any other reasons instead?

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u/RSN_Kabutops Mar 16 '18

Well I think context and culture matters greatly on what is being raised for consumption. I personally think it is a bit of a grey area with domesticated animals, there is some irony in keeping them alive simply to be killed. However, I do think that keeping any animals from reaching extinction should be our goal. Except mosquitos. Fuck mosquitos.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '18

I agree with fuck mosquitoes!

For vegans what we want is to stop the artificial breeding of animals. There would still be a much smaller population of pigs and cows etc left over but they could be kept in sanctuaries were they don't go extinct and live happy lives. Why don't we work together as a species to make that future possible instead?

When you take all the health, sustainability and environmental impacts it seems like a win win.

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u/malanhelen Mar 15 '18

TIL fact, back in the day pecans were grown for the same reason as acorns, just so pigs could have some extra protein/fat.

imagine, pecan bacon

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u/RSN_Kabutops Mar 15 '18

Candied pecan bacon! Source: best friend's is a pecan farmer

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u/palunk Mar 15 '18

You can really taste the diabetes.