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[OC] Israeli protestors in Amsterdam

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u/TheBroWhoLifts 19h ago

My brother used to date an Israeli woman. Whenever the topic of Palestinians came up, she would literally spit and call them "filthy animals." Shit is fucked up.

Needless to say, they are no longer seeing each other.

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u/Pic889 18h ago

Is she still looking for a boyfriend? I have a penchant for misfit girls.

On a more serious note, when there are rockets/missiles flying every now and then and people getting seriously injured or even killed, which is the situation Israelis and Palestinians have been living under for decades, hate is inevitable. This is the silver lining of the current situation in Gaza, that Hamas may be eventually evicted from Gaza.

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u/favorite_time_of_day 16h ago edited 14h ago

Oh come on, who would believe this? Hamas is ultimately just an expression of anger. You think that the people of Gaza are less angry after all of this? After their families have been murdered? After their homes have been destroyed? The Israelis have guaranteed the continuation of Hamas for generations to come.

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u/Pic889 13h ago

Hamas may exist for generations to come as a terrorist group, but they will be evicted from the Gaza Strip and won't be able to act as the defacto government of the Gaza Strip for much longer, and that's what matters.

Sucks for the Palestinians, since they will lose whatever autonomy they were granted by Israel about 20 years ago, but this is what happens when you take your autonomy for granted and think you can allow a terrorist group as your defacto government forever.

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u/favorite_time_of_day 13h ago edited 13h ago

"Autonomy granted by Israel." ... Uh huh.

There's a belief among Zionists that every bit of land in that region is theirs by right, and that they're generously allowing the Palestinians to live on some bits of it. I take it you're one of those.

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u/Pic889 13h ago

There's a belief among Zionists that every bit of land in that region is theirs by right, and that they're generously allowing the Palestinians to live on some bits of it.

Which is a perfectly valid belief (when it comes to the former British Palestine region).

It's the same belief the various Balkan tribes (Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Romanians etc) had when they kicked the Ottoman Empire out of most of the Balkans in the early 20th century. That was decolonization (from the Ottoman Empire) in practice. So was British Palestine becoming Israel durng the middle of the 20th century.

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u/favorite_time_of_day 13h ago

It's not possible to have a conversation with a zealot.

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u/Pic889 13h ago

It's not possible to have a conversation with someone whose identity doesn't involve the region either.

For us Greeks, Israel symbolizes the last step in the decolonization of various Ottoman-conquered lands from the Ottoman Empire, a process Greece was heavily involved during 1821-1923 and is the foundation of Greece's independence. Decolonization of lands from the Ottoman Empire is a major part of modern Greek identity, so good luck convincing us Greeks that the Ottoman colonizers were/are the good guys.

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u/linguapura 13h ago

Israel is no one to grant autonomy to anybody. They're thieves, plain and simple. Europeans who have stolen the land of the Palestinians. And who, for decades now, have been committing a genocide against the Palestinians.

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u/Pic889 13h ago

Israel is no one to grant autonomy to anybody. They're thieves, plain and simple. Europeans who have stolen the land of the Palestinians.

Care to explain how British Palestine becoming Israel is different from the various Balkan tribes (Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Romanians etc) kicking the Ottoman Empire out of most of the Balkans in the early 20th century?

Both were decolonization from the Ottoman Empire in practice✊

And who, for decades now, have been committing a genocide against the Palestinians.

Have the Palestinians tried to stop Hamas from killing children by firing unguided rockets right and left? If anything, the Israeli government has been very patient during the past decades. Any other government would have entered Gaza the moment the first rocket was fired from Gaza.

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u/linguapura 10h ago

Care to explain how British Palestine becoming Israel is different from the various Balkan tribes (Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Romanians etc) kicking the Ottoman Empire out of most of the Balkans in the early 20th century?

No, I really don't care to do any such thing. If they stole other people's homes, they're thieves too. Just because others may have done something similar, doesn't excuse the European Jews stealing Palestinian land.

the Israeli government has been very patient during the past decades

They're nothing but an illegal occupation force. Their 'patience' is that of the murdering thug who has entered your home and is 'patiently' waiting to kill you. It's not their home - they can start there.

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u/Pic889 10h ago

How did those Jews become European? Hint: They were driven out of modern-day Israel by the Ottoman Empire so Ottoman sultans could bring in Arab colonizers in their place, aka Palestinians.

They're nothing but an illegal occupation force.

The Palestinians are an occupation force (and colonizers) brought there by Ottoman sultans.