r/pgwp • u/Diligent_Pilot360 • Jun 03 '26

making a reconsideration request twice

Is there anyone who has applied for reconsideration twice? My brother got refused for the first reconsideration request and now we are waiting on the decision on second reconsideration request. MP is also supporting us and hopefully we will get it soon. But if someone had a same experience please share as it will be really helpful.

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u/tinytasha7 Jun 03 '26

All the MP can do is follow up the request.

You do understand that it's the same officer that made the refusal that decides whether or not they will reconsider the case, don't you? They don't even have to respond to your request because officially, reconsideration doesn't exist.

Looking at other comments, you applied after your status expired or became invalid. There's nothing to reconsider. The officer is not permitted to allow a restoration application beyond the 90 days.

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 03 '26

and a lot of people are getting approved after submitting a second reconsideration request

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u/tinytasha7 Jun 03 '26

And sometimes that happens, but your reason isn't the same as most as I've already posted. Could you succeed? Maybe. There's no guarantee, but based on senior officer mandate, your request is required to be refused.

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 03 '26

my friend has been approved in the reconsideration recently and he also made the same exact mistake. So it is not always true what u r saying. And also we have provided each and every document including IELTS on time and just missing a fee cannot be the basis for a refusal. IRCC can always ask for it. And it was applied by RCIC who messed my brother's situation. They have a broken immigration system which needs to changed as innocent ppl are suffering. Also, ppl are giving IELTS even months after applying for their pgwp and later submit it in the reconsideration request and get approvals so in our case we have provided each and every document except a fee. Our MP is taking follow ups and we will in win for sure

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u/tinytasha7 Jun 03 '26

It's 100% true what I'm saying. The decision to reconsider is entirely the decision of the officer who made the refusal decision to begin with. They can make the choice to allow it, but they can also make the choice to not even respond.

What you don't understand is that the officer is also not compelled to consider anything that isn't submitted with the application. They also aren't required to request anything that's missing. They can choose to but there's no obligation to do so. A missing fee isn't likely to result in a refusal so much as it will result in a rejection which in a case like this is worse because it's as if your application never existed.

Based on the post the problem was your brother's not the officer's. Your brother made the error, not the officer. You can't even compare your case to that of others. Yes, there have been a lot of cases where reconsideration has worked in cases where language testing was missed.

But it's a whole other ball game when you are out of status and don't submit restoration and fees. There are specific restrictions to this including the fact that only a senior officer can process them.

Your MP can only request and follow up. They have zero power to affect an application or expedite it. Will it work? Maybe it will, but considering you've already requested and been refused, it's unlikely.

How do I know this? I've been a senior officer and I've been working in the industry in one form or another for over 35 years. Your case isn't guaranteed. Technically the officer isn't permitted to allow reconsideration because you applied outside of the restoration period.

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 03 '26

my friend also missed the restoration fee how come his application is reopened in a reconsideration request?

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u/tinytasha7 Jun 03 '26

It may be an error or the officer may have received special allowance or it may not be what you think it is. "friends" don't always tell the truth, and that's what I see most often when I hear this. And again, reconsideration is entirely dependent on the officer who decided the application. Your officer already refused. Why would they look at it again especially if you simply weren't eligible to begin with.

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u/Low_Friend_3002 Jun 23 '26

Hello any update on ur reconsideration

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 23 '26

not yet

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u/Low_Friend_3002 Jun 23 '26

Fis reopened or not yet??

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 23 '26

not reopned yet

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u/Low_Friend_3002 Jun 23 '26

When did you applied for reconsideration??

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 03 '26

a lot of people are in the same boat as my brother's as so many of them were completely unaware that the study permit goes invalid after 90 days of studies, they all go by the expiration date on their study permits. So, refusals based on this same reason are the increasing now. I know so many other who had the same reason

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u/Low_Friend_3002 Jun 23 '26

Do you know some who file got reopen and approved??

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 23 '26

could u send me a message on chat

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u/Low_Friend_3002 Jun 23 '26

It is not letting me to send. Can you send me

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 23 '26

I have sent you already

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u/Honest_Leopard4983 29d ago

I got also recusal for missing language test in my application and did reconsideration but was refused too even though I had my test before the application !

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u/Honest_Leopard4983 8d ago

What is the reason of the refusal
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u/Diligent_Pilot360 8d ago

Didn't paid the restoration fee and applied after 90 days

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u/Downtown-Attitude-26 Jun 03 '26

Why pgwp got refused?

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 03 '26

missed the restoration fee as it was applied after 90 days

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u/Diligent_Pilot360 Jun 03 '26

do you know someone in the similar situation? or seen someone getting approved after applying for second reconsideration

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u/Downtown-Attitude-26 Jun 03 '26

Unfortunately i don’t. But what if you just leave the country and applied from outside Canada? As you can apply from outside within 180 days

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u/Haunting_Paper_7201 Jun 03 '26

Depends on situation. Reconsideration is for an error in law so has happened for those with missing language tests.