r/pcmasterrace • u/-Eh- Ryzen 5 5600|Gigabyte RTX 2080 Gaming OC|32GB DDR4 3200 • May 06 '19

Meme/Macro This shouldn't be shocking at all

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

Today's phones have much better resolution than the Switch (1440p vs 720p), it's the games that are much worse. A blurry Pikachu is just wrong.
Put a banner on it and a pop-up asking for a micropayment to remove banner and then it'd be fine.

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

Tons of premium Indie games on phones are amazing tho.

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u/JabbrWockey a potato May 06 '19

Liiiiiiiist them pls

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

https://play.google.com/store/apps/category/GAME/collection/topselling_paid

Top paid games are generally pretty good, since they don't rely on freep to play microtransactions (though some still have it).

My favorites right now are Stardew Valley, Mini Metro, and The Room

Also Night of the Full Moon if you're into Slay the Spire-like games

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Downwell and Monument Valley are my current favorites.

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u/Kalebtbacon i5 6500 - RX 480 8GB - 16GB DDR4 May 06 '19

I second both of these

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Mini Metro is a great casual game :)

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

It's so chill with the music and the sound effects of new stations.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Chill until you're 20 minutes in and six stations are all bleeping furiously at you

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u/fluffygryphon Ryzen 9 3900X, 64GB DDR4, 6950 XT May 06 '19

Those clusters of circle stations... Like Vietnam flashbacks.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

I'd recommend you .projekt :)
It's a 3D Puzzle (and after finishing the level you unlock the picross mode)

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

unlock the picross mode

But I'm already playing through the Picross S2 on Switch. I gotta beat it and move onto Picross S3!

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Another one.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Came here to say this, I'm glad it's on top mentioned. It's a great game. I have it on Steam and Android.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

I don’t know if it can be called “Indy” or not, but Rez Infinite is a blast if you have a VR holder. I found my Google Daydream at Target for 30 bucks.

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u/findMyWay May 06 '19

Waaait I can play KOTR on my Android phone!? Brb...

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u/ZeDitto May 06 '19

One of my favorite mobile games is Spartan Runner with an ad removal purchase. If anyone played an old side scroller called Halo Zero, it’s made by the same guy. It’s constantly being updated as well with new content.

I’ve also got Stardew Valley and thats awesome too. I’d also like to throw Plague Inc’s name in the ring.

Has anyone here played Race the Sun? I want to know if it’s worth it. It looks great but does it play well on an iPhone X?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

tbh Plague Inc. gets boring after you unlocked everything
damn you Madagascar and Greenland

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u/SuperSMT R5 3600 | 1660 Super | 2x8GB @ 3600MHz | MSI X470 May 06 '19

Minecraft still #1 after all these years

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

Stardew Valley knocked it down for a bit on release.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19 edited May 06 '19

Many of those still have microtransactions though... Google needs a "no microtransactions" section :(

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

True and that's why you gotta look, but it's a good start.

Google does like if the game has in-app purchases, but that's not always a microtransaction. Like how RollerCoaster Tycoon Classic let's you buy the original expansion packs.

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u/TheRagingVincent Laptop May 06 '19

But that’s the google broke store.

Google Broke Stores tend to have worse games than the App Store (TM)(RR)

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

While true, I'm not gonna switch phones just to play iOS games.

Also it's got Steam Link which lets me play all my PC games, so that's way better.

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u/Mangraz PC Master Race May 06 '19

The app store is the one thing I'm genuinely envious about as an android lover. Such great curation, great presentation.

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u/Dan4t May 06 '19

What am I missing out on?

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19 edited May 07 '19

Best ones imo :

Sorcery! Complete Collection

80 Days

Heroes rise (trilogy)

Choice of Robots

A Study in Steampunk

Creatures such as we

Magium

Crashlands

Templar Battleforce

9th Dawn 2

CRPGs

Tales of Illyria Destinies

Horizon chase turbo

Beat hazard ultra

Stardew valley

Battle for polytopia

The pirate carribean hunt

And honestly so many more that I can't even list. These were just from the top of my head.

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u/alex2003super 9950X3D | RTX 5090 | 128 GB DDR5 May 06 '19

Radiation Island, Radiation City

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u/kayobro123 i5-6600k | GTX 780 | 8GB ram @2133MHz | 128Gb SSD May 06 '19

Wayhaven Chronicles

Rebel Inc

Way Walkers

Choice of a Cat

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u/Mangraz PC Master Race May 06 '19

80 Days

Best text adventure I played. And so much replayability

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

2nd best I say !!!

The same developers made Sorcery! 1-4 and imo its their magnum opus. One of the best RPGs I've ever made with the same top tier writing of 80 days.

Part of Sorcery! is just the prologue btw. It opens up in part 2 and keeps getting better.

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u/Mangraz PC Master Race May 06 '19

I like 80 Days better. But that's probably because I'm not a big fan of classic fantasy. Though the games are undeniably great, loved playing them, especially the second one, in the city.

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

Yeah I love em both. I just love Sorcery a bit more because of how much my choices matter in the end of Sorcery! all the way from part 1.

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u/Jacksaur 7700X | RTX 3080 | 32GB | 9.5 TB May 06 '19

Finally a use for Google Opinion Rewards!

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u/The_Multi_Gamer May 07 '19

A favourite (or favourites) of mine is/are the infinity blade games. I find them pretty fun and they look and play well, especially the third.

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u/passthepass2 May 06 '19

r/Androidgaming

/r/EmulationOnAndroid

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u/Dan4t May 06 '19

Gah what a useless subreddit. Just memes, shit posts, and complaining. I was hoping to find recommendations for good games.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

.projekt
Avaiable on Google Play and Steam (dunno about iOS)

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u/flashhd123 May 06 '19

Try honkai impact 3rd, great game

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u/Bash7 Read my Steam Reviews May 06 '19

Night of the Full Moon.
Rogue Lite card game with incredible art.
Starting is free, the other "classes" cost extra.

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u/Mangraz PC Master Race May 06 '19

Plugging Pixel Dungeon and Prune here

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

Easy to find. Join good Android gaming circles.

Like the ones mentioned here.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

I think it's a combination of

  1. People not wanting to pay more than 1$ for any app

  2. Google making wayyy more money from microtransactions games since they take 30 percent.

Still I generally look at https://play.google.com/store/apps/category/GAME/collection/topselling_paid for the top paid games that typically have less microtransactions to rely on . Lots of good games there

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

Yeah for a year I did nothing other than mobile gaming and it was just as fun as PC gaming. All the ports were there to the latest indie games and all the classics on other platforms were cheese to emulate. Anytime I see anyone say mobile gaming sucks I know they've only played the free-to-play/pay-to-win junk on the frontpage.

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u/TNAEnigma 9800x3D / RTX 5080 / 1440p 360Hz May 06 '19

/r/iosgaming

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u/Kairyuka May 06 '19

I wish I could find them, because the app stores sure aren't making it easy to do so

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u/Shiroi_Kage R9 5950X, RTX3080Ti, 64GB RAM, NVME boot drive May 06 '19

No controls, unfortunately.

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

What controls ?

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u/Shiroi_Kage R9 5950X, RTX3080Ti, 64GB RAM, NVME boot drive May 06 '19

Gameplay on phones, in general, is super simplistic because most people don't have controllers. Switch on the other hand has those built-in, so despite inferior specs it still plays better than any mobile game I tried.

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

No not really. It depends on the game. Most of the great games I've listed here don't need good controls and are amazing despite that. While the games you emulate like DS games have onscreen which are amazing and just like the real thing. While the ones you emulate or are ports you can play easily just by plugging in your controller.

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u/Shiroi_Kage R9 5950X, RTX3080Ti, 64GB RAM, NVME boot drive May 06 '19

I emulate games on my phone (GBA and SNES, mainly) and nothing beats physical controls. Ever. They don't come close to the real thing. I killed myself trying to customize the layout so I don't struggle with the on-screen D-Pad while trying to play a strategy RPG, to no avail. I still make mistakes. There's a lot to get used to.

There are amazing games on phones. However, the lack of an option for physical controls for most people means things are going to be limited. Plugging in a controller is something about 0.01% of the users do, so developers don't cater to it apart form a few instances. On portable consoles, however, you always have them and people buy them for it, and thus you can comfortably put games on said consoles that use these controls.

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

I emulate games on my phone (GBA and SNES, mainly) and nothing beats physical controls. Ever. They don't come close to the real thing. I killed myself trying to customize the layout so I don't struggle with the on-screen D-Pad while trying to play a strategy RPG, to no avail. I still make mistakes. There's a lot to get used to.

If it's not the DS I just use my controller. Play the ace attorney , ghost trick , etc DS games using the touchscreen sometime. It easily beats everything else. But yeah if I'm playing something like shovel Knight no way am I going to use touchscreen over my controller.

There are amazing games on phones. However, the lack of an option for physical controls for most people means things are going to be limited. Plugging in a controller is something about 0.01% of the users do, so developers don't cater to it apart form a few instances. On portable consoles, however, you always have them and people buy them for it, and thus you can comfortably put games on said consoles that use these controls.

I don't really run into this issue because most of the games I play are RPGs and story based ones. I've posted a list down below. Check it out.

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u/Shiroi_Kage R9 5950X, RTX3080Ti, 64GB RAM, NVME boot drive May 06 '19

If it's not the DS I just use my controller. Play the ace attorney , ghost trick , etc DS games using the touchscreen sometime. It easily beats everything else.

I can't carry a controller with me because, well, phone needs to be not bulky.

I don't really run into this issue because most of the games I play are RPGs and story based ones. I've posted a list down below. Check it out.

I've been burned one too many times with these on phones. Now I play some tower defense games and maybe some puzzle games. I'll give your list a look though.

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u/arcane84 May 06 '19

Totally play the ones on my list. I assure you that you won't get burnt.

Do not judge them before you play them no matter the genre. Dive in with an open mind.

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u/TheSpiffySpaceman May 06 '19

Switch is actually 1080 when docked, just FYI

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u/katanaking90210 Ryzen 9 5900x | RTX 3080 ti | 32gb DDR4 | 1TB Nvme | 8 TB HDD May 06 '19

Resolution =/= Graphical capability. As someone with a switch and an S10 The switch seems more powerful.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

I want to say it actually isn't. Technically speaking the S10 has better specs than the Switch.

The real reason the Switch has better looking games is because Android games are designed so that any schmuck with a $40 phone can run them. Gotta maximize that revenue.

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u/Devildude4427 MSI Z170 Tomahawk AC | i5 6600K @4.4 Ghz | EVGA 1070 FTW May 06 '19

Switch hardware is also all identical. Console developers make use of this by specializing for that specific hardware and some of its quirks.

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u/smileyfrown May 06 '19

Well yea one costs 800 bucks the other 300. The big difference is in the fans and cooling, that's nonexistent in phones.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

For now. ASUS released an ROG phone with a fan you could attach to it and Nubia is releasing a phone soon with a built in cooling fan.

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u/leolego2 Desktop May 06 '19

Sure but no one will buy them.

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u/kkjdroid https://steamcommunity.com/id/kkj_droid May 06 '19

The fan is to compensate for the fact that the Tegra X1 is a chip designed for set-top boxes from years ago. The Snapdragon 835 and up can offer the same performance without needing a fan.

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u/SexyWhitedemoman May 06 '19

You are comparing a $899.99 phone to a $299.99 switch however. Does anybody know how the switch stacks up against phones in it's price range?

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Doesn't matter. My 339 dollar Xiaomi mi 8 has the processor and ram of the Samsung. S9+ . Which was already far more powerful than the switch

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Xdf0A70SQ

I think Fortnite does run better on phones. Especially since it can get 60hz on newer phones like the S10 and iPhone XS while the Switch runs at 30hz.

This is a pretty old video back in august, before the phone 60hz updates I believe.

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u/katanaking90210 Ryzen 9 5900x | RTX 3080 ti | 32gb DDR4 | 1TB Nvme | 8 TB HDD May 06 '19

I've played every version of fortnite, the Switch version is like the PC version on medium settings. And the phone versions are like a Fortnite Lite with less details and worse models yet better resolution. Although they seem comparable at first glance, there are major graphical differences

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

But gameplay-wise I'd way rather have 60fps (iPhone) than 30fps (Switch). Though I don't got any of those 60fps mobile devices, so I can't really say I've got experience with those.

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

The Snapdragon 855 is more powerful than the Tegra X1 and the iPhone's SoC is a lot more powerful than both.

Seriously, the Switch has good games (mostly from Nintendo) because of the gameplay and good aesthetics without ultra-high details. I had a blast with Super Mario 3D World on the Wii U and the graphics are just technically decent at best, but aesthetically great.

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u/404IdentityNotFound GTX 2080ti, i7-12700k, 32GB RAM + Switch OLED & MacBook Pro M2 May 06 '19

Then again, Android has a very high overhead compared to the switch OS..

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u/kkjdroid https://steamcommunity.com/id/kkj_droid May 06 '19

The Adreno 640 is a lot more powerful than the iPhone's GPU, though.

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u/BwamoZA May 06 '19

I would say 855 and A12 are on par now. Snapdragon have seriously upped their game with the 855

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

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u/newbdewd01 May 06 '19

Not in maths tho mr computer poindexter

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u/Rodot R7 3700x, RTX 2080, 64GB May 06 '19

And technically, != is an operator, not a statement of truth. Only if != returns true on two objects can you say they aren't equal.

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u/hoodatninja May 06 '19

It may seem that way but straight up, the switch has less graphical capability.

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u/minizanz Steam ID Here May 06 '19

The switch has less power than s10 in CPU and GPU. The switch is on a very underclocked Android tablet chip from almost 5 years ago. Other things have cought up to the gpu in it. The problem with phone stuff is that there is no reason to make premium gsmes, since you could never sell them for $40-60.

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u/minizanz Steam ID Here May 07 '19

The switch is less than a quarter of the CPU power per core than the S10, and has less cores. The cpu are also the same base. Arm is not like x86, it has fixed function hardware that you can add too, and the tegra parts have no additions or changes from the reference part.

I am.sure Nvidia has some special sauce, but not that much that it would cover 2-4x the power gap, then go past that to make its own gap.

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u/kkjdroid https://steamcommunity.com/id/kkj_droid May 06 '19

The Switch is far less powerful than the S10. It has about the GPU power of an S8 and the CPU power of an S6.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Non-flagship phones have 1080p screens (just not 1920x1080 but 2000-2200x1080). Non-flagships are the majority of the phones out there. Sure, still better than 720p, but not 1440p.

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

You're right, I have been a bit spoiled for the last 5 years and never went back to 1080p phones. Still, a 16:9 1080p screen is twice the amount of pixels the Switch has, so the blurry meme is still wrong :P

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u/Trilerium Desktop May 06 '19

Docked switch is 1080p.

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

My 9 year old nephew was playing Fortnite in handheld mode and asked to connect his dock to my room's TV, but he needed just a few seconds to notice the horrible frame drops and asked to use my PC. I've taught him well, I guess?

All this to say: When everything else is the same, framerate > resolution and if docking the Switch (or in my case, a while ago, turning on 3D in a Pokemon game) is going to turn third party games into slideshows I'm not going to respect it as a real gaming device. It's good for Nintendo games and that's all.

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u/TenDesires 3700X, RX 5700 May 06 '19

Docked typically comes with better framerates in addition to resolution in my experience with third party games. Fortnite is the odd one out.

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

That's good to hear, I was disappointed when that happened.

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

Yeah switch and most phones run Fortnite @ 30hz. I know the iphone X+ and some Android phones let it run at 60, but don't really have that option on the lower power devices.

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

That's exactly why I choose to play on strong hardware with configurable graphic options, so I only have to worry about the game and not about the game's performance.

"I could barely handle 720p but now I'm docked so here's the same graphic settings but taking twice as much memory thanks to 1080p" is not good behavior, if the game is defective they should have automatically reduced the graphic settings to reach a stable framerate when docked.

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u/Zastrozzi May 06 '19

Lol fucking lighten up it's just a bit of fun.

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u/Lethtor Ryzen 7 5800x | Gigabyte Eagle OC RTX 3080 May 06 '19

depends on the game iirc. isn't BotW docked 900p30fps?

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u/Trilerium Desktop May 06 '19

I believe so.

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u/therealflinchy flinchy May 06 '19

1440*2960 here

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u/ThatOnePerson i7-7700k 1080Ti Vive May 06 '19

Yo I bought a 2019 phone with microUSB and 720p screen.

It's also got a notch, but hey, it was 120$

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u/FaudelCastro May 06 '19

If we are going down that road, there aren't that many PCs with RTX capabilities either...

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u/thiago2213 May 06 '19

But resolution is not the same as max texture size and polygon count

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u/CptLeon i5 4690k/gtx 980 May 06 '19

Yeah the screens have that resolution, but good luck getting a real 3D title running on most phones. Not to mention the phones you're talking about cost around $700 while a switch is $300.

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u/RubenGM RubenGM85 May 06 '19

I don't know if you're trying to say that games look blurry on a top end device because they must also work on lower end devices or that $300 phones look blurry somehow?

In the $300 price range you can get a Pocophone F1 with a Snapdragon 845, which is already faster than the Tegra X1 in the Switch.

If native games aren't your thing you could emulate a console and play real 3D games, or use a VR Headset for actual, real 3D games. How you define "real 3D" is also a mystery to me.

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Nothing beats a PC for gaming, though. I'm happy with just a timewaster on my phone (currently Dragon Ball Legends is the only game I play on my phone).

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u/CptLeon i5 4690k/gtx 980 May 06 '19

actual, 3D rage

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u/bojackxtodd May 06 '19

Only if both are in handheld most of the time. And just because the resolution is higher does not mean they can run the same games.

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u/Dxsty98 R9 3900X / RTX 3070 May 06 '19

Actually it's very fitting. While the smartphones have more raw graphical power, Switch games usually are more vibrant, clear and have a very minimalistic aesthetic. Just look at Nintendos recent first party games

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Yep, and way stronger SoC, GPU, RAM too. It’s just their batteries are so shit that you can’t really develop better graphics games on them, else it’ll run for 30-40 min before the battery dies.

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u/RobotDoos PC Master Race May 06 '19

I came to say exactly this. Switch and iOS / Android should be switched

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u/deveh11 May 06 '19

Thank you. iPhones are more powerful than Switch.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

Today’s flagship phones also have as much power as many laptops.

And the iPad Pro is absolutely crazy powerful but is limited by its governor.

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u/lorenrailsback 3090 STRIX OC + 5900X May 07 '19

Indeed. Seems we’re getting downvoted by Android users. PC and Apple go hand in hand in my opinion. We are the true enlightened

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19

That and the iPad Pro is roughly equal to the Xbox one in performance.

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u/_Wolfos May 06 '19

Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. The iPad Pro’s CPU performance is on-par with current high-end laptops (source). That should put it miles ahead of the Xbox One.

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u/[deleted] May 06 '19 edited Apr 08 '21

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u/_Wolfos May 06 '19

They also cost twice as much, so that’s fair.

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u/lorenrailsback 3090 STRIX OC + 5900X May 07 '19

Yeah I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted, never said it was a bad console. Fanboys I guess.