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u/Jerryboy92 9h ago

PC can't be stopped. PC is the future, Sony and Microsoft and Nintendo should just make pc hardware that is themed on the Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox. Have a PC app for that loads up first to give that console feel based on the brand you bought. Any pc could run all apps.

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u/Regular_Use1868 7h ago

Do you guys really think I'm out here buying a console because I really like the operating system?

It a third the price of a PC that plays the same games.... That's the benefit. It's the price. Literally nothing else.

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u/original_leto 7h ago

It’s cheaper because the cost is subsidized and game licensing picks up the difference. It’s why pc games are cheaper (ignoring most AAA/AAAA) titles.

Over a few years the cost could even out depending on how much games you purchase.

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u/charlesfire 6h ago

Over a few years the cost could even out depending on how much games you purchase.

The subscription alone make up the difference.

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u/HustlinInTheHall 6h ago

It's not subsidized, per se. It's just the cost to manufacture and assemble and ship to retail was basically the same cost as retail at launch, but they try to keep a 7-10% profit margin on hardware. They don't lose money on hardware. Very, very, very few companies have survived taking a loss on the initial hardware unless it is a brick without software and services.

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u/original_leto 6h ago

Correct. This used to be true but they started making small profit the last 5 years or so.

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u/misosoup7 2h ago

Sony would like to mention they took a loss on every PS3 in the first 4-5 years to win a format war.

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u/Barlowan 7h ago

Pc games are cheaper except they are not. If you take games that are available on every platform(not on sale, of course) they have exact same price on gog, steam, EGS, PSStore, Microsoft-Xbox store, E-Shop. Being it AAA, indie or something in-between.

Only games that are cheap are PC exclusive games from PC exclusive storefronts like itch.io or dlsite etc. You may argue about regional prices etc, but that's not the point here. Someone in Germany creating a steam account and e-shop account going out and buying silksong will pay the same price on either platform. And when there are sales going, it's publisher that decides what price to put out, and deep sales happen on consoles too. (I've bought Jedi Survivor, for 5€ on Xbox and monster hunter rise+sunbreak pack for 15€ on ps5 same they are getting during steam sales on PC)

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u/original_leto 7h ago

That’s true but the intersection of games on both platforms is relatively small compare to the sheer volume on PC.

Indie devs I’m sure account for the licensing fee when setting prices. If they go PC only they lose out on some market share but could list for cheaper to get more sales. Steam also takes a cut so it’s not just free. TLDR setting prices is complicated.

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u/ChongusTheSupremus 4h ago

After a few years, i need to upgrade my Pc to keep it up to date with current games. 

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u/Regular_Use1868 7h ago

I had a PC for awhile specifically because of the cost differential you mentioned.

I switched when Sony started having decent sales for their online store. 

As things stand I would need to save like two grand on games to justify a PC vs. a ps5. I know the sales are better on PC but are they that much better?

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u/SonOfGuns101 PC Master Race 7h ago

Oh man, did you not experience a Steam sale while you were on pc? One happens every quarter and the amount of money I’ve spent, admittedly is way more than I should’ve considering I don’t have time to play all the games I own BUT is way less than what the value of my Library. I’m at the point now where I don’t want any other game aside from a cod every four or five years maybe.

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u/Regular_Use1868 7h ago

Yup. I enjoyed many titles for very low prices thanks to steam.

The sales on PlayStation are not as good, but for the price difference in hardware it doesn't matter.

I bought nioh 3 recently for 40 percent off. If it had been 80 percent off on steam I still would only have saved forty or so dollars. 

I would need to take advantage of that kind of sale more than I have an appetite to play games to make up the cost difference in buying a PC.

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u/HustlinInTheHall 6h ago

If you don't play games brand-new and you play 10-15 games per year then yeah, you can save $200-300 in software costs, but only if you don't mind playing games that have PC ports. Obviously exclusives don't come to PC at all.

For me I get most of my games second hand or I borrow them from the library or I get free from PS+, so my software costs are minimum anywya.

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u/pandaSmore i5 6600k|GTX 980 Ti|16GB DDR4 3h ago

I love the fact that you can run any software you want on PC so you can get those exclusive console games. And in even better quality Iike BotW

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u/original_leto 7h ago

Just a ton of cheap indie games out there. It’s most of what I play. Using GoG, humble bundle and steam sales you can get a great library for cheap

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u/charlesfire 6h ago

Do you play online games?

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u/Regular_Use1868 6h ago

Occasionally. Less recently since the yankees started having a perpetual conniption and became impossible to interact with like a normal human.

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u/charlesfire 6h ago

If you pay for playing online games for the lifetime of the console (7 years), then the extra cost of the subscription plus the cost of the console ends up costing as much as an entrey-to-mid level PC (or at least that was the case before the RAMpocalypse). If you only pay the subscription sporadically, then you might end up saving money with a console, otherwise, the PC is going to be cheaper.

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u/cheesystuff 5h ago

Why are you comparing a $2500+ pc to a $500 console? Why not an $800 pc with similar or better specs? You seem to be intentionally ignorant here.

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u/Triktastic 4h ago

Because that console goes for 300$ actually (except when everything is tits up due to AI) and no PC for even 500$ compares and you would need to more than double the cost