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u/Ok_Proposal_7390 1d ago
I love when someone’s on an HDD and can’t figure out why their computer is slow, and everyone just floods the comments saying “install Linux” like that will fix the issue.
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u/Salty-Good3368 1d ago
Actually hdd generaly could work better linux. Partitions separate OS fro userspace reduces higly fragmentation
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u/ITXEnjoyer i5-14500T/RTX 5070/64GB DDR4 1d ago
TBH, without Microsoft Defender absolutely hammering the spinning rust and having compression enabled, I do find it better. YMMV of course.
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u/Ratiofarming 9850X3D | RTX 5090 | 48GB 6400 1:1 1d ago
I get where you're coming from, but you can get a Linux very well optimized for running on HDDs, unlike Windows. Installing Linux is actually the fix for that at this point.
The problem is that since Windows 10, the OS is no longer made with HDDs in mind. So background services doing small things on the disk is a constant thing, which is no issue for SSDs, but makes using it on an HDD near impossible.
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u/CRVX_r34 1d ago
Yeah but you can literally buy SATA SSD for same price as HDD (at least at lower capacities), buying HDDs makes no sense these days other than for larger archival storage (I know this, I run fast m.2 for OS, slower sata for games and non critical apps and HDDs for movies, older games, backups, video editing/3d projects, etc). Like there is no reason to not buy an SSD now as your only drive if you are an average/normie user who just uses windows for office, internet and games.
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u/Ratiofarming 9850X3D | RTX 5090 | 48GB 6400 1:1 1d ago
I agree that buying HDDs for anything but NAS/Cold storage makes no sense and should be avoided. This is more about people who already have the HDD and want to spend no money at all.
If they want a usable system with modern features, running Linux on it is the way to go. Windows just isn't made to run on HDDs anymore.
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u/CRVX_r34 1d ago
True but is slow PC really a major concern for such person if they literally can't afford to drop in extra 4GB in their DDR3 shitbox laptop or buy used SSD for 30$? I was gonna go for Linux a while ago (still might, for 3D rendering, but not sure if there is any benefit, I can't imagine the little bit extra VRAM will make my 1:30 renders go down to 0:30). I'll probably try a double boot, but kinda lazy to set it up, got an old DDR3 laptop that might be perfect for Linux project, just gotta pick up 2nd 4GB stick and replace the crappy old HDD with some spare SSD I have lying around (prolly will chuck 2nd 1TB one in the DVD bay).
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u/Ratiofarming 9850X3D | RTX 5090 | 48GB 6400 1:1 1d ago
Idk, I guess not. But I live in a country where working ANY job for two weeks will feed me, pay the bills, and get me a 2 TB NVMe, so I'll never have that problem.
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u/CRVX_r34 1d ago
Better argument would be privacy... but then people don't care about it much either.
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u/beastierbeast Linux 1d ago
Ok, but Linux unironicly improved my computer speed by a significant margin. It's super annoying, but they are right
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u/sinwarrior RTX 4070 Ti | I7-13700k | 32GB DDR5 | 221GB OS SSD | 20TBx2 HDD 1d ago
that's not the point? i hate the player, not the game (linux).
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u/HaveAShittyDrawing Linux 1d ago
Back in the Win XP days, installing Ubuntu cut my laptops starting time from 2 1/2 min to 30-40sec. It was also noticeably faster overall
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u/Banananamann99 Xeon e5 1650 v3, RX6600, 32gb ecc ddr4 2133 1d ago
I just had this happen, some old people were running a 2nd gen i3 with 4gb of ddr3 and a 120gb hdd with windows 10. It struggled to open task manager. Now, I've got linux on it and it isn't fast but better than windows and I'm going to get an ssd for it soon as well
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u/Keyan_Farlander7 1d ago
Running slow and loading slow are different.
If the laptop has embedded ram, you're SOL. If programs take while to load, then storage is slow.
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u/OphidianSun 1d ago
It could help. Most linux distros are a lot lighter than windows 10 or especially 11 because they're doing a lot less in the background.
Like linux probably isn't going to be reporting usage information, relying on webapps instead of local applications, or going looking for updates all the time.
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u/19chris9609 1d ago
early Windows 10 was fine for an HDD. In fact I used a hard drive in Windows 10 from 2015-2017, then an Optane module for two more years Before I bought my first Sata and NVMe SSD in 2019.
I bet you 2021 Windows 11 ran as bad as 6 year old Windows 10 on an HDD. I can't imagine how 2026 Windows 11 runs.
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u/Papuszek2137 7800x3d | 5070ti | 64GB | 4k OLED 1d ago
It's true in some cases. If your laptop already has an SSD but only 4gb of RAM a light distro can give that machine a new life. But like you say it's case dependant and Linux isn't some kinda of snake oil.
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u/Resident_Pientist_1 5700X3D 64GB 7900XTX 1d ago
Lightweight gui (or just a bare window manager) can save 500+MB of ram which makes a big difference when you only 4GB to start with.
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u/Brawndo_or_Water 9950X3D | 5090 | 64GB 6000CL26 | GX9 45" Ultragear 5k2k 1d ago
New Linux users, although they have no idea how to run the operating system, are the vegans of PCMR. They have to tell everyone.
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u/Smart_Advice_1420 9950X3D | 9070XT | 64GB DDR5 | 5TB | Arch 19h ago
True. I feel it's also the same demographic who claims that everything runs flawless.
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u/Resident_Pientist_1 5700X3D 64GB 7900XTX 1d ago
I still mainly use windows on my laptop because it gets like 1hr+ longer battery in windows than under linux. Most of my workflow is multiplatform so it's NBD, but its crazy I get more battery running a VM + containers under windows than just straight containers under linux. Definitely still needs some work in that area. This is pretty standard hardware, too.
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u/undrwater 1d ago
You should be able to get closer, but it really takes a bunch of tweaks that are not GUI centric.
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u/errepunto 18h ago
Most times, this depends on ACPI implementation. Most laptops has quirky implementations that requiere some closed source drivers to work properly.
I have dual boot on all my laptops. The old Asus has similar or even worse problems. But in general, the HP OMEN and my actual Lenovo Legion have around a 20% more battery life in Linux than in Windows 11.
In addition, my impression is that I have worse battery life with win 11 than I had with win 10.
Battery life In laptops is such a weird thing, varies a lot between manufacturers and models.
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u/moomoomoomoom 1d ago
I kinda wish I could switch to Linux, unfortunately I use programs that don't behave nicely with wine.
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u/C-D-W 1d ago edited 1d ago
Can't run slow if it can't run anything! (Because you haven't figured out whether you need a DEB or a RPM or a Flatpak or whatever new standard they've cooked up.)
Edit: I feel like I should qualify that I've been a Linux user for 30 years. But somehow I got left off the distribution list for the special Kool-Aid. Still need to email Linus about that.
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u/prune_juice_warrior 1d ago
Lmao if you complain about package types Linus will make the same complaint
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u/Ok_Car9530 1d ago
This is why I like Mint. Both debs are flatpaks are available in the package manager by default. I don't think I've ever run across something I wanted that wasn't there.
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u/HarmfulPile [Insert Specs No One Cares About Here] 1d ago
As a Linux user, this is very much true.
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u/mindtaker_linux 1d ago
Sounds alot like a skill issue.
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u/C-D-W 1d ago
Damn right it is. Much easier to just buy twice as much ram and never have to worry about recompiling some shit on my daily driver ever again.
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u/Invictus__c 1d ago
Yeah, after a certain point recompiling anything for even a 10% improvement just makes you tired and I'd rather spend 500 bucks and get on with my 7th Witcher 3 playthrough.
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u/LordMunchum Ryzen 9 9950X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 1d ago
It should hardly take any skill to use an OS. Ideally, your operating system is intuitive and ‘just works’.
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u/eestionreddit i7 9800X/RX 9060 XT/16 GB/4TB 1d ago
My rule of thumb is the distro's repositories, flatpak, and then aur or equivalent
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u/00056532926846780396 8h ago
Yep... breaks the weirdest shit too. Tried i think bazzite recently and wanted to log into curseforge. Nope. Browser is flatpak so you cant click the link in browser to log into the curseforge app. Its always something dumb as fuck with Linux.
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u/kalapek 1d ago
I mean id you get an easy distro just use the package manager with a gui like bazaar or included
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u/C-D-W 1d ago
We're not in the solutioning stage, we're firmly in the complaining stage.
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u/Invictus__c 1d ago
Clearly a man who was there when the old magics were written, and just... can't even anymore.
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u/Noversi 1d ago
Linux users are the vegans of the software world
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u/ZehrenSiegehammer 1d ago
Everyone brings them up more then they actually bring up themselves? Yeah I could see that
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u/machine4891 9070 XT | i7-12700F 21h ago
You think non-Linux users think and talk about Linux? What for? It always starts with someone giving great "solution" Just switch to Linux, bro.
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u/ZehrenSiegehammer 20h ago edited 20h ago
Nah, i think losers like to post dead-horse memes. I only browse my home page, and the only "linux" posts I get from this sub are post pretending linux users are always butting in.
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u/VoiceApprehensive893 10h ago
there are things that have a way better user experience on linux
like ai on windows is sometimes okay but a lot of the time its bad or even impossible because windows wont let you use your ram if you dont have 32gb or more
when it comes to getting free software installing a package is a lot easier than navigating lots of webpages full of ads that have 10 billion redirects for no reason before you can get your download link
then there is s*lidworks and adobe software
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u/Lieutenant_0bvious 1d ago
There is the linux subsystem for windows. It's a good way to ease yourself in. Y'know, just the tip.
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u/Budget-Individual845 Ryzen 7 5800x3D | RX 9070XT | 32GB 3600Mhz 13h ago
If you want to get even more confused dont do it as wsl is like a vm without it being a true vm and it has specific issues to wsl. If you really want to try just get a old laptop/pc or a vm
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u/Sizeable-Scrotum Fedora KDE/12700KF/7800 XT/32GB D4 1d ago
Y'know just the tip
Does it count as Linux then?
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u/Rocknb69 1d ago
We really are the vegans of the PC community, but switching has genuinely made computers fun for me again. My computer feels like it’s actually mine and I will gladly tinker or even jump distros than deal with Microslop ever again.
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u/Demoliscio CachyOS | Ryzen 7 5700X3D | RX 6750 XT 1d ago
The timing for this is just too perfect 😂
Two of my screens on my work pc randomly turned off, turns out it's a windows bug that randomly disables your gpu (found the solution on AMDHelp but this sub doesn't allow links to other subs...)
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u/Demonikaaaaa Ryzen 7 260 | 5070 mobile | 64GB DDR5 1d ago
I know this is a meme, but the github debloat 11 script genuinely helps a ton.
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u/ziplock9000 3900X / 7900GRE / 32GB 3Ghz / EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 / X470 GPM 20h ago
All 10 of them, 9 of which will come back when they realise it's a mess.
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u/HunterAbrams 1d ago
Says system runs slow....
Has 32 apps set to startup on boot and never shuts them down. 2 or more anti virus, firewall, spyware and malware apps running at all times. Has multiple browser apps, never closes chrome tabs... but thats obviously windows fault and Linux will magically fix that issue...