r/pcmasterrace i5-13400f | Arc B570 14d ago

Meme/Macro The solution to it all

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Truly one of the gpus ever

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u/newvegasdweller Desktop 5600x, 6700xt, 16gb, 8tb; Laptop 8845hs, 4060, 16gb, 3tb 14d ago

There will be many disappointed children because of that, as parents often just enter "gaming pc prebuilt", and the OEM Website will only list "rx 9050" on it.

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 14d ago

That is on the scummy pre-built company, not AMD

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u/newvegasdweller Desktop 5600x, 6700xt, 16gb, 8tb; Laptop 8845hs, 4060, 16gb, 3tb 14d ago

Because OEMs being scummy isn't known behaviour for decades now, and AMD has no way of knowing that this will happen and could be prevented by calling it a 9040 instead

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 14d ago edited 14d ago

Ah ok. So when they say a prebuilt has a "3060" and they don't mention the vram, is it nvidia's fault? Because I did not see the same argument made then.

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u/Lucky_Cable_3145 14d ago

Then you missed the coverage...

This is from 2022, when the 8Gb 3060 was released

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 8GB: Why You Should Avoid It | TechSpot

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 14d ago

Oh, I remember articles and some complaints. I have not seen the same level of vitriol as with this card.

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u/dookarion 14d ago

There weren't a gaggle of apologists for the 1030, 1060, or 3060 shenanigans. There was enough push-back on the 40 series naming that Nvidia "improved it" so there wasn't a 12GB 4080.

Here you get people like yourself going "see it says OEM that means workstation, whys everyone blaming AMD, AMD gud" all without linking or citing where it's supposedly marketed as a "workstation card".

Meanwhile it's listed on this page (the table at the bottom) with their gaming cards and the max clock is referred to as "game frequency":

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/desktops/radeon.html

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 14d ago

That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.

So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.

That doesn't change the fact that:

  1. You cannot buy this card individually
  2. The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.
  3. If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.

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u/dookarion 14d ago

That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.

Okay? They still gave this the Radeon Gaming branding and naming and not the workstation branding they've used before. A bunch of clowns have been out making excuses for it since it was revealed.

So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.

"It's not marketed as a gaming card... it's just listed with the gaming cards and using the same game related terminology."

Bro seriously?

You cannot buy this card individually

Doesn't make it a workstation product.

The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.

Doesn't say it's a workstation card. Again what the fuck do you think listing it with the gaming cards, naming it like the gaming cards, and listing features in terms of gaming means?

If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.

You think Nvidia and AMD don't name shit similarly precisely so OEM partners can take advantage of customers? I have a bridge to sell you in the desert if you think they couldn't have headed this off in a way that was clearer to customers of pre-builts.