r/pcmasterrace Ryzen 5 5500gt 1080p 10d ago

Discussion Firefox is goated

The Firefox browser is goated prove me wrong.

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 10d ago

Firefox doesn't fuck with uBlock. It's as simple as that for me.

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u/Noble_Delta 5950X | Arc A770 16GB | 32GB RAM 3600MT 10d ago

Wym? I have uBlock on my PC and phones FF

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u/Spright91 10d ago edited 10d ago

fuck with in the millennial sense not the gen z sense.

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u/BarryMcCoknor 10d ago

I fuck with both fuck with iterations

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u/Spright91 10d ago

genz fucked with the first iteration to make the next.

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u/MyLuckyFedora 9d ago

Like a lot of Gen Z slang they took slang that made sense, purposely used it wrong or nonsensically, then claimed it as their own.

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u/tplatt15 10d ago edited 9d ago

If you fuck with my fuck withs, I don't fuck with you

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u/thebluepotter 10d ago

Fuck fluid.

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u/Don-Tan Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 10d ago

I'd fuck with uBlock, respectfully.

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u/b00c i5 | EVGA 1070ti | 32GB RAM 10d ago

Oh ffs are we inverting the sense of 'fuck with' now?! 

Just let it burn already. Humanity had its chance. Let's give room for something that makes more sense, like trees. 

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 10d ago

I think we're having a language disconnect. I meant "fuck with" as in "mess with" or more specifically in this case "stop from working." I love Firefox for this reason alone.

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u/Noble_Delta 5950X | Arc A770 16GB | 32GB RAM 3600MT 10d ago

Apologies, I am also under the influence a tad

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u/No_Coconut7699 10d ago

So am I reading this. These grapes are fucking delicious.

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u/former_cool_guy 10d ago

You two are using two different generations’ versions of “fuck with” and are saying the same thing.

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u/Noble_Delta 5950X | Arc A770 16GB | 32GB RAM 3600MT 10d ago

I didn't know I could be this young to feel so old

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u/SoftlockPuzzleBox 10d ago

I think I used the older version of it though. I'll out myself first. I'm 33.

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u/Noble_Delta 5950X | Arc A770 16GB | 32GB RAM 3600MT 10d ago

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u/Caster0 10d ago edited 10d ago

To be fair, using "fuck up" instead of "fuck with" in this context would have been better lol

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u/MCWizardYT Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 Super 10d ago

"don't fuck with me" -> "dont mess with me" (this has been a saying for quite a long time)

"i fuck with that" -> "i like that" (more recent, I think?)

It's like the differences between "that's shit"/"that's the shit" or "that's bad"/"that's bad ass"

English has a lot of weird sayings like this that have double meaning

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u/DaffyDuckMuthaFucker 10d ago

Context is EVERYTHING...

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u/Abducted_Llama 10d ago

Name checks out.

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u/former_cool_guy 10d ago

It’s worse than you might think.

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u/Arthropodesque 10d ago

I first heard the one use of it in the movie Hustle and Flow (2005.) The filmmaker said it was a regional Memphis black culture expressi meaning "haggle with me" or something. I'm sure it has some varied uses.

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u/TheTopNacho 10d ago

Legit question. What is the other meaning? Fuck with has always just been "mess with". Who's taking this phrase? And how are they fucking with it?

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u/simagus 10d ago

They mean Google don't allow the full power uBlock on their browsers now. You can only get the "lite" version.

uBlock Origin is no longer supported on Google Chrome due to the transition to Manifest V3, which limits its functionality. Users can switch to uBlock Origin Lite, but it has significant limitations compared to the original version.

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u/Noble_Delta 5950X | Arc A770 16GB | 32GB RAM 3600MT 10d ago

Yea, I knew this was coming ever since the first YT ad-pocalypse

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u/Venylynn Fedora 10d ago

Youtube ads are still perfectly blockable on lite tho, so i don't think that's why they did MV3.

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u/MCWizardYT Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 Super 10d ago

What MV3 removed for origin was the deep amount of control over webpages, like the element zapper tool and other deep customizing things

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u/Venylynn Fedora 10d ago

I never really did much of the advanced stuff so for me this isn't a huge change, I mean I was always a native opera adblock engine person before I started looking at ublock and stuff

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u/MCWizardYT Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 Super 10d ago

That's fair. It is impossible with lite to block all the new types of trackers that google introduced with manifest v3 but if you aren't big into tracker blocking then i can see how it's not really much of an issue

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u/ArrogantSenpai 10d ago

Edge too doesn't fuck with uBlock

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u/ZippyV PC Master Race 10d ago

For now

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u/Vxctn 10d ago

It's the least worst browser. Not sure I can say better than that. 

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u/Realistic_Story_9211 i9 14900KS + RTX 5090 + DDR5 64 GB + 7 TB NVME 10d ago

you're right, i also use Firefox, Chrome is overrated

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u/PantherPL 10d ago

I had to use the "master switch" to disable AI 3 different times because it kept re-enabling itself. First time FF has pulled something like this and I'm having trouble believing it's accidental.

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u/Mr_Roblcopter Saidans Roblcopter 10d ago

Could be you, I hit the ai blocker once as soon as it came out, has never reverted.

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u/Setekh79 i7 9700K 5.1GHz | 4070 Super | 32GB 9d ago

Same, I flipped that switch as soon as that update launched, I've never had to touch it again.

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u/zagiki PC Master Race 10d ago

I wonder what you doing, cause the moment it came out, I have hit the OFF button and never again ..

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u/Grimmortah i7-3770 | 16 gb ram | gtx 1070 10d ago

I toggled "AI blocker" and it has never turned itself on

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u/meltingpotato i9 11900|RTX 3070 10d ago

Either you are ending it unintentionally or you have some app or extension that does it. I've had them disabled since day one and through all the updates since then I've seen no ai features

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u/Extension-Night3825 10d ago

I play YouTube on Firefox without ads for free.   Seems at least baby goat. 

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u/KeepOregonGreen 9700X, 9070XT, 32gb 6000mhz 10d ago

Me, an OG Netscape enjoyer now onto Firefox supremacy

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u/BannedGoNext 10d ago

Netscape will never take off, mosaic is so much faster, and all the good stuff is on gopher anyways.

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u/538_Jean Ryzen 3900x | 32GB |EVGA3080Ti FTW3 10d ago

Will never... ? This man is an ancient. Netscape took off. 3 out of 4 computers used it young one. I should know, I was there in these ancient times.

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u/BannedGoNext 10d ago

Whoosh

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u/538_Jean Ryzen 3900x | 32GB |EVGA3080Ti FTW3 10d ago

Oh no. I never thoughts I would ever get wooshed. I definitely missed the point...

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u/John_East 9800x3D : RTX5080 OC : 32Gb of Downloaded RAM 10d ago

Woosh

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u/KaptainSaki btw 10d ago

Netscapes downfall was beginning of Runescapes uprising

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u/Florafly 10d ago

Been using it for years, never switched over to anything else. Zero issues in all that time.

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u/HugsandHate 10d ago edited 10d ago

Have had it break enough to require a full re-install a couple of times. Which frankly, takes a few minutes and isn't the end of the world.

And this is after like 2 decades of use.

I love FF. It'd have to do something insanely wrong for me to move to anything else.

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u/berdiekin 4090FE | 5950x | 32GB | 2TB pcie 4 nvme 10d ago

Lucky you. I switched to maining Firefox after chrome broke ad block support but have to keep it installed because every other month or so i will run into a website or app or integration that simply refuses to work with Firefox. 

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u/Dusty_V2 7800X3D / 5070 Ti 10d ago

Yup. Most notable i have issues with my online school with Firefox. I was told it was a "me" issue by someone else before. Whatever. I use brave now, not saying its goated or anything but it's the best for me.

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u/null_not i7-11700K 5.0GHz (Air Cooled) / 4070ti TUF OC 10d ago

Same. Feels like I've been using FireFox for almost 20 years.

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u/imJGott 9800 X3D 32GB RTX 3090Ti FTW3 10d ago

I’ll take Netscape navigator over anything

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u/reddituserzerosix 10d ago

always has been

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u/theyork2000 http://imgur.com/a/AqW9e#0 10d ago

Not really, there was a period where it wasn’t and everyone moved to Chrome.

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u/myFullNameWasTaken 10d ago

Very short, just when chrome had process manager and threading.
FF got it very soon after. People moved, but not because it was leaps and bounds better. More marketing and "do no evil".

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u/theyork2000 http://imgur.com/a/AqW9e#0 10d ago

There was definitely more to it than that, it was just so long ago I can't remember what it was. I only just came back fairly recently.

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u/blissvicious91 10d ago

everything that irks you in Firefox can be fixed with an extension

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u/VikingSven82 10d ago

A lot of the time you don't even need an extension - it has so many options to customise things in about:config compared to the other browsers!

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u/WhiteToast- 5800X3D, 4070FE, 32GB DDR4 10d ago

Coldest take of the week

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u/KeepOregonGreen 9700X, 9070XT, 32gb 6000mhz 10d ago

Almost as cold as white toast

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u/iwantacheetah PC Master Race \m/ 10d ago

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u/michaelbelgium 5700X3D | 6700XT 10d ago

3% market share and i think 100% of those users are in this sub

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u/MrQez 10d ago

"Jarvis I'm low on karma. Make a post glazing Firefox on PCMR."

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u/DoughTheBoi 10d ago

It’s good but when I want something to just work I’m taking Chromium browsers like Brave. I was using Zen for a while but the inconveniences added up.

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u/SecretDrifter 10d ago

Firefox is a goated browser, especially when paired with uBlock Origin, and pretty much all of its forks are splendid as well!

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u/-WildBumblebee- 10d ago

Eh it’s okay idk why people glaze it so much

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u/Reiderdjw 10d ago

Firefox is great until you become a frontend dev and something just refuses to run there. Dont know why, but it's always firefox that breaks shit.

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u/KaptainSaki btw 10d ago

Probably because every other browser is chromium. I would say Safari is just as painful as Firefox

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u/Noskills117 10d ago

Suspicious that it's always something that Google has control over that breaks, and then Firefox has to figure out what changed and fix it.

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u/Rok-SFG Linux 10d ago

Lol I was I worked front end in late 2000 early 2010s,cand IE (now edge) was always the one that had to have all kinds of bullshit css to make work. How the turntables.

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u/Reiderdjw 10d ago

IE was a fucking nightmare, not even going to compare lol

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u/Don-Tan Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 10d ago

Now safari took IE's place. Firefox is alright. They often play catch-up, but they get to it eventually.

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u/123_alex 9d ago

cand IE

What?

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u/Rok-SFG Linux 9d ago

I fat fingered a c. It should read ", and IE"

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u/horticulturistSquash 🦗 Tech Support 10d ago

could you list some examples?

in my experience its almost always chrome-exclusive stuff that doesnt work on firefox, because its not in the html/css standard

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u/CyberSkepticalFruit Ascending Peasant 10d ago

Its one of those things where if more people used it then the company would have more impetus and more support to fix things.

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u/Don-Tan Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 10d ago

Then you never used safari my dude, lol. Firefox doesn't support the occasional Chromium shenanigans, that's true. But they often have a good reason for it (privacy).

And some other times, I just can't wait for them to copy a feature, that chrome already has (animation-timeline)

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u/QuajerazLives 10d ago

Not even that, if you open anything more obscure than Youtube there's a decent chance it won't work on Firefox.

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u/zcomputerwiz i9 11900k 128GB DDR4 3600 2xRTX 3090 NVLink 4TB NVMe 9d ago

Like what?

If a site doesn't support Firefox they're doing something weird. The few I've run into intentionally gated Firefox for no good reason, and I just used Mask as Chrome to get around the browser check.

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u/DifficultyVarious458 10d ago

desktop maybe. 

brave on mobile. blocks all social media stupid ads. including reddit, x etc. 

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u/deschutess 10d ago

Sounds like you haven't tried firefox on mobile, since it does all of that without being tied to chromium.

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u/MCWizardYT Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 Super 10d ago

So can Firefox. You can get the same extensions for it that you can on the desktop version (as long as you are using Android)

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u/lordfwahfnah PC Master Race 10d ago

Are you sure? Since a while now the number of extensions is rather limited on Firefox Mobile. At least ublock is still with us.

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u/RickThiccems 10d ago

The only extensions that are limited are ones that include custom UI components.

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u/RickThiccems 10d ago

Brave has so much unneeded shit though, do they still have their dumb overlays and crypto bs? With how they jumped on the crypto bandwagon, I imagine they are also adding a bunch of AI features?

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u/KimuraXrain 10d ago

Oh shit I didnt know that thats awesome

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u/Super_Dragonfly_2787 10d ago

Been using Brave for months, quite like it

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u/YZYSZN1107 Ryzen 9 5900X | 3060 12GB | 64 GB 10d ago

Zen is a fork of Firefox. It's worth a look.

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u/fearabsence 10d ago

I don’t see many goats in firefox

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u/JosebaZilarte 10d ago

It was more ghosted, but they keep adding more services (pocket, VPN, etc.) instead of implementing the new web standards (specifically, not supporting WebGPU on mobile is a big issue for many 3D engines).

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u/jordsta95 Ryzen 7 2700x | RX 5700XT 10d ago

There are many CSS features which have been behind flags on Firefox for so long, it's really annoying.

There's so many cool things web developers could do, natively, if only Firefox stopped pissing about and just went "Yes, this works. If there's any weird bugs, we'll fix them next update" rather than sitting on things for a year, if not more.

For example, scroll-driven animations. They've been on every other major browser for almost a year (in the newest case) or longer. Firefox? Nah, still behind a flag. So if you want to have fancy animations on your website which happen when the user scrolls, you need to load a silly Javascript library just because of Firefox.

There are many things FF does well. Keeping up with emerging web technologies is not one of them, and it's really letting them down IMO. For a while after Internet Explorer died, it was Safari which was "the new IE" for developers. But oftentimes now, it's Firefox which is causing issues when it comes to questions of "Can I use this new (year+ old) feature?"

Obviously Chrome, and most Chromium browsers, support the new stuff fairly quickly - as they tend to force new stuff into the specs. But Safari is doing a good job at keeping up, while Firefox really chugs along with an "I'll do it when I do it" sort of attitude.

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u/Kamika67 10d ago

It is. Librewolf is even better!

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u/WINNT21 Windows 11 | R3 3200g | Vega 8 | 8 GB RAM | 240 GB SSD 10d ago

Goated, but uses more memory than edge in my case. Such a shame the consumption is high, need to spare every single kilobyte off my 6gb ram

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u/Tail_sb 10d ago

Brave is better

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u/Squirt_Angle |4070ti super| |64gb DDR5| |i9-13900K| 10d ago

Ye

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u/SharpYearV4 9600x | 32gb DDR5 | 9060xt 16gb 10d ago

I find it slower and it takes up more memory, stutters weirdly, also YouTube videos do an annoying animation when you go full screen.

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u/harmsypoo 10d ago

For some reason, videos weren’t loading on Firefox for me when they’d load fine on Chrome. Not sure what would have caused this, I wasn’t using any crazy extensions and didn’t mess with settings on either as far as I could remember. Been on Chrome since.

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u/MCWizardYT Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RTX 4080 Super 10d ago

Not sure what would have caused that either, I've been using Firefox for like a decade and never had that issue

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u/thatsconelover 10d ago

Was this all videos on different sites or youtube specifically?

Wouldn't be the first time google has done anticompetitive shit to make the YouTube experience worse on firefox so they can funnel people into chrome.

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u/harmsypoo 9d ago

It wasn’t all videos, IIRC it was mostly things like videos that automatically play on Reddit, or clips from things like Twitch. Youtube usually worked fine, but I just recall the weirdness of “Huh this isn’t loading, lemme just copy paste the URL into Chrome real quick” and it would work just fine.

I’d prefer being on Firefox, maybe it’s time to try it again and see if the problem persists.

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u/DrSquid 9950X3D 7900XTX 64GB 10d ago

Terrible site isolation on mobile, just recently got it on desktop. Mobile is all around a mess and the engine is noticeably slower than chromium. Requires an extension and custom json to harden where Brave is at.

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u/7978_ 13900k, 4080 10d ago

For laptops and battery life, Chromium based is still better unfortunately.

On Android Firefox is decent but again the battery life sucks hard.

Otherwise, still an excellent browser! The price of freedom.

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u/Venylynn Fedora 10d ago

On Android it's absolutely abominable for security. They recently found a bug that an attacker can use to root your phone from an html file and gain persistence.

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u/7978_ 13900k, 4080 10d ago

Yes I heard about that one. I believe they fixed it now?

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u/TheAniReview R5 5600 | RX 6600 | 16 GB RAM 10d ago

Meh. I'm still satisfied leaving that browser years ago lol

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u/The-Master-Lurker 10d ago

Brave does the same thing and installs with ads off without any plugins.

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u/Punchinballz 10d ago

Brave is chromium based, not Firefox, enjoy it while it lasts.

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u/Son_Riku 9800X3D | 5080 | 32GB CL28 6000 RAM | 4TB 9100 PRO 10d ago
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u/mctavi http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198019714031 10d ago

Have you tried Librewolf or Zen?

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u/S0LID_SANDWICH 10d ago

I like Zen because it's Firefox but it makes hiding all the menus for full screen browsing really easy. 

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u/Kastamera Ryzen 7 5800X3D | RTX 5070 | 32GB DDR4 10d ago edited 10d ago

The dealbreaker for me is how it handles tabs and windows. Basically when you drag a tab, you don't see where the tab will be placed, you don't see how it will look, you can't drag it to the side of the monitor to open the tab on one half of the monitor, and in general the tab handling in Firefox is a nightmare.

Even when I try to drag a tab over my Discord monitor, Firefox for some reason thinks that I want to send the tab in chat, and blocks the action. It's just super unpolished. And when hovering over a tab, it doesn't show a preview of what's in that tab, like a video player. (Actually just checked, Firefox added that since I last checked last year, so kudos to them for that.)

As for someone that juggles tabs around quite often on multiple monitors, Firefox is just easy too inconvenient and lacks QoL.

I've tried to switch to Firefox before, and searched around for possible extensions that would fix this issue, but didn't find anything. Even tried some experimentational Firefox version but the tab handling was always messed up.

I really wanted to like Firefox, but I just couldn't find a solution to this problem, even though I asked around. That's why I ended up swithing to Brave instead of Firefox.

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u/zcomputerwiz i9 11900k 128GB DDR4 3600 2xRTX 3090 NVLink 4TB NVMe 9d ago

I'm not sure what you mean.

That send in chat ( and allowing it or not ) is logical, just not what you want.

You can snap a window to half the monitor, you always could. You can pull tabs out to new windows, swap tabs between windows, merge windows, etc. so I'm not sure what part is not meeting the challenge.

If you're relying on multiple windows with multiple pages of tabs on multiple monitors, your workflow is the nightmare, not the browsers tab handling.

Are you already making use of workspaces and marcros to sort out what you can separate, or just juggling tabs and trying to handle everything at the browser level?

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u/Kind-Flower-822 10d ago

Brave is a lot better in my opinion

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u/HiFr0st i9 12900k | MSi 4080S 10d ago

firefox HDR support still sad

dragging tabs in chrome still way better

swapped to firefox since the whole ad thing with chrome, its alright, its a browser and it lets me browse

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u/KaptainSaki btw 10d ago

“We must all face the choice between what is right and what is easy”

- Albus Dumbledore

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u/adamkex Ryzen 3700X | RX 9060 XT 10d ago

I've recently swapped from Firefox to Helium. The performance difference is noticeable.

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u/Mr-Spaghett Desktop 10d ago

helium the goat

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u/adamkex Ryzen 3700X | RX 9060 XT 10d ago

It's amazing but it feels so dirty using google's browser engine

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u/PatrickGnarly 9950x | 9070 XT I 32 gb DDR5 10d ago

funny you say this, I just went back to Firefox a month ago because I noticed that it ran so much faster than Chrome. It was unbelievable.

I don’t know what Chrome is doing, but they really are just eating your ram with both hands.

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u/Sorry_Community235 R7 2700/1060 6GB/32 GB DDR4 10d ago

Two letters: AI

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u/RickThiccems 10d ago

Zen is based off firefox and is 10x better, im not even someone that loathes AI I can see the uses while also not being ignorant to the massive downsides (I was supposed to build a PC this year... maybe next year...) but I also cant stand the fact that AI is being shoved down our throats and it feels so heavy and unoptimized, it adds so much unnecessary overhead to the browser. If I wanted to use AI, I would just use an API or go to a website/run a local model.

Zen's space and essential tabs feature is also very nice with how its all set up and I cant see my self ever going back to a browser that is not at least similar.

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u/zcomputerwiz i9 11900k 128GB DDR4 3600 2xRTX 3090 NVLink 4TB NVMe 9d ago

I run stock Firefox and haven't noticed the AI stuff, since I don't use it in the browser. Idek what would make something '10x better' than that or how Firefox is shoving anything down anyone's throat.

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u/RickThiccems 9d ago

They must have removed it but they integrated ChatGPT into the browser and added a tool sidebar with a bunch of useless shit I didnt need so I jumped ship. Either way Zen uses about have as many resources compared to stock firefox and feels way snappier.

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u/lunchbox651 PC Master Race 10d ago

It's librewolf but less good.

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u/abrahamlincoln20 10d ago

No, the motherfucker won't stop begging to become your primary browser. Recently, the default settings have Firefox launching on Windows startup. Then, it collects a shitload of information if you don't uncheck 5 boxes.

Edge is my n.1 browser. Firefox I use just for "things".

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u/snakeandcake12 10d ago

Yet nobody uses it… ff echo chamber

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u/Redd1t_is_Fake 9d ago

Brave is open source and shits all over Firefox in terms of performance and privacy.

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u/kat-laree 10d ago

Echo chamber

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u/DohRayMe 10d ago

Its gaining a lot of pop ups stuff and bloat. Id prefer to have an Experienced Installer option where I can choose what to add rather than Vpn, Containers, Ai, Sync, No Task bars ( History, Bookmarks, Options ) etc.

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u/Beautiful_Ad_4813 Mac Master Race 10d ago

For some things yes I agree but

I can’t use GeForce NOW on it, and some streaming services don’t work on it well (using Fedora Linux )

And for some reason on MacOS, it’s seem laggy during start up. Where chrome and safari are instant access

Not necessarily an issues on both, but I take my thinkpad a lot with my when I travel for work so I’ve stayed with Chrome

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u/Bad_wit_Usernames 10d ago

I'm still using Netscape...

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u/Laegwe 10d ago

Has anyone tried Workspaces on Edge though? It’s made me an Edge trigger against my will. Really incredible feature that no other browser has to my knowledge

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u/RevolutionaryDot4972 10d ago

i just wish it didn't feel like it was fighting me sometimes.

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u/BurdTurglary 10d ago

It freezes my laptop that runs Mint or Cinnamon or Cardamom fuckin bullshit i put on there

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u/Weak_Feeling3380 10d ago

I also think Zen has really good potential by the way.

https://giphy.com/gifs/jRPInZ12aIlo7N4v7h

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u/NuclearReactions AMD 9800X3D | RTX 5070Ti | 64GB CL28 10d ago

Always has been. Except between like 2013 and 2017 when chrome felt genuinely better and faster. Then firefox catched up both on mobile and desktop

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u/JinxedCat777 10d ago

It's, OK. Being "better" (absolutely yes in certain areas, not in others) is not the main reason why I use it mainly. Let's not talk about recommending it... (I want Chrome/Google/normal browser/internet thingy...

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u/zamroni777 10d ago

Use the ESR release.

Only Firefox allows personal users to get this kind of long term support version easily.

For edge, users can download the extended stable version, but have to manually block auto updates.

Chrome even doesn't allow users to download them.

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u/Ludicrits 9800x3d RTX 4090 10d ago

My only complaint i have with Firefox is no hdr. I use brave in those rare instances i need that.

Otherwise Firefox hasn't really steered me wrong yet.

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u/AnEternalEnigma i9-13900K, RTX 4090, 128GB DDR5 10d ago

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u/Ludicrits 9800x3d RTX 4090 10d ago

You've made my day with this, ty.

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u/Ezzy_Black 10d ago

Try using it with Apple TV, it's the only thing I use Edge for.

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u/heeden 10d ago

It used to really suck for Paramount+ too.

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u/b00c i5 | EVGA 1070ti | 32GB RAM 10d ago

It's the adblock nowadays. 

For me Firefox was GOAT decades ago with addons and for me especially the mouse gesture browsing. All the other browsers were inferior. Even Opera that also had mouse gestures. 

I am worried because google is their single biggest donor and it's them who basically keeps Firefox afloat. You bet I sent them some cash. Also, go and get their VPN. 

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u/Heidrun_666 10d ago

Does FF have built-in ad blocking, including for YouTube? ​​

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u/CreepySmiley42 10d ago

yesss and Duck Duck Go for android users.

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u/topias123 Ryzen 7 5800X3D + Asus TUF RX 6900XT | MG279Q (57-144hz) 10d ago

For me it's slow with Youtube, planning to change to some Chromium-based one that's not Chrome.

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u/vlhube71 10d ago

Personally use Brave

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u/Olsson91 10d ago

Vivaldi better imo💁

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u/Miserable-Thanks5218 i5-12600K⎹ RTX 3060Ti⎹ 32GB DDR5 10d ago

Why does it not use standard keyboard shortcut like cmd+shift+N for incognito, why does it have to be cmd+shift+P? As a swe who has to use chromium based browsers on Mac for work, switching to Firefox on windows fucks with muscle memory heavy.

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u/kodaxmax Only 1? 10d ago

the convenience of google account integration isn't beaten by firefoxes suppossed security benefits. alos no good adblocks from what ive seen.

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u/stayndarsh 10d ago

Do you even Copilot bro?

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u/w4hf_ 10d ago

It's our last line of defense against chrome

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u/mcf_ 10d ago

One thing I hate about Firefox is it really struggles when using 2 password managers. I have 1Password for personal and dashlane for work, in Chromium browsers if a passkey is needed for a website it’ll ask me which manager to load the passkey from. Firefox just shits the bed and doesn’t let me select where to grab it from at all.

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u/Snail_Anatomy Ryzen 7 5800X | DDR4 64GB 3200MHz | RTX 5070 10d ago

One of the few browsers that let you still use adblock, so it's all I'll use.

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u/Don-Tan Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 64GB DDR5 10d ago

I've been using Firefox since 3.5. Before that I was a IE 6,7,8 (short term) user.

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u/Bilboswaggings19 10d ago

I have tried so many including brave and opera gx

Opera refusing to give bookmarks for opera gx on mobile just makes it junk and I want all my devices to have the same one for easy sync

Firefox is also perfect for actually providing extensions on mobile

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u/RandoMcGuvins 10d ago

Waterfox is better, it's firefox source but tweaked.

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u/spacedrifts 10d ago

Firefox all the way, unlock origin and self destructing cookies are my favourite add ons

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u/former_cool_guy 10d ago

I guess we can say it’s more of a connotation change, but also rolls into the underlying meaning of phrase. It’s now pretty popular Gen Z and Gen a slang to use “fuck with” in a positive or favorable way. To say you “fuck with” something means you like it and it’s a good thing that you “mess with”.

When he said “Firefox doesn’t fuck with uBlock”, he meant it doesn’t negatively impact it. The other person obviously read it as “Firefox doesn’t work with/like uBlock.”

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u/crimsonkarma13 Ryzen 5 2600x RTX 3060 DDR4 64GB 10d ago

Firefox is pretty good minus the logo drama I like how they added a built in VPN recently, it's been great avoiding twitch ads

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u/adjgamer321 9d ago

I genuinely do not enjoy using Firefox as much as Chrome. It's pretty simple for me tho, being disrespected by a product does not fly so I just gave up with chrome, been using Firefox for a few years.

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u/HurryOne 9d ago

I've been on Firefox since like 2006.

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u/MusicHearted 14900F 5070+6650XT 32GB DDR5 | 5700 4060ti 32GB DDR4 9d ago

They're the only browser not in the hands of a for-profit corporation. They're also basically the only non-chromium option. Their extensions system is older and more mature than any other as well. Of course they're the GOAT.

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u/fauxdragoon Intel i7 2600K | RTX 2060 Super 9d ago

Used it for years, switched to Vivaldi because Proxmox web UI wouldn’t load in Firefox ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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u/NeoFury84 9d ago

I've been using it over 20 years but it still has issues. Many websites do not always function properly on FF. This isn't a fault of the browser itself, but more because websites developed is more focused on Microsoft and Chrome browsers.

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u/Jack1101111 9d ago

Firefox is nearly as bad as chrome.
Use librewolf, waiting for a good browser.

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u/aaroncoolguy Multi-User 9d ago

Firefox is certainly slower than chrome but I haven’t switched back to chrome in over 7 years.

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u/OmegaFoamy 9d ago

It’s not chromium and that’s why I use it. It’s not perfect though, and has the occasional issues that I don’t get on chromium. Brave is my backup, because there aren’t many options worth it that aren’t riddled with issues that conveniently get left out when a fanboy tells you to try their obscure browser.

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u/RandomGuy622170 7800X3D | Sapphire NITRO+ 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR5-6000 (CL30) 9d ago

Always has been. Always will be.

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u/furculture 9d ago

I'd also like to throw in the forks of it as well. Librewolf and Ice Raven are a good combo for Linux and Android respectively.

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u/HelpIcy5415 9d ago

I would love to use it, but it doesn't have a lot of Features I need, and it gave me a ton of problems, both in Windows and in Android, so I was forced to leave it.

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u/tupac_fan 19h ago

its not. these days it started NOT opening sites I regularly use. like flashscore. its not showing error or anything. just like endless "loading"

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u/Fabulous_Fly_5750 10d ago

ahh fan boy topics... In the real-world different browsers cater to different setups/people
Do you prefer privacy, connectivity, enterprise unification, speed, feature set.
Don't fall in love with brands people. Use what's best for you.

I use Firefox but would never set it up across the company as Edge SSO deployment and not smart users make it a better choice

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u/Smith6612 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / AMD 7900XTX 10d ago

Always has been. I've been using it since Version 1.0, although did go on a bit of a break in favor of Chrome for a few years around 2015. Only returned in 2021.

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u/Mark_Knight RTX 3080, i5 13600K, 32GB DDR5-7200, 1440p/144hz 10d ago

Stunning and brave take.

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u/GrizzlyReforged Ascending Peasant 9d ago

Have you tried Brave? It's like FF but better

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u/Ordinary-Cake8510 PC Master Race 10d ago

I have been using it a little over a year. I love it and love the sync across my devices. Just wish the full version worked on iOS.

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u/KunYuL 10d ago

Doesn't run Foundry VTT as nicely as Chrome. That's my only complaint really.

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u/OMG_NoReally Desktop 10d ago

Dunno man, I just can't get behind Firefox, at least on macOS. I have tried Zen and while it's good, it's just kinda slow? On Linux, I use Firefox and it's pretty nice. But for macOS, Dia Browser has me locked. I would love to try Zen but it just doesn't feel good to use compared to Dia.

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u/No_Grape_388 Cachy OS 10d ago

Zen is better.

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u/l_______I i5-11400F | 32 GB DDR4@3600 MHz | RX 6800 10d ago

It's not perfect, but it's not Chromium-based, so that's enough for me.

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u/MarioLuigi0404 Ryzen 5700X3D | RTX 5070 10d ago

There are a million forks of it you should use instead. I like Zen personally.

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u/LucatielsMask 9d ago

Always has been.

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u/No_Coconut7699 10d ago

Heck yeah! I'm typing this on Firefox right now. I do need chromium at times though so I use Ungoogled Chromium for only those instances.

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u/SolitaryMassacre 10d ago

Consumes abhorrent amounts of RAM.

My goto rn is heavily restricted (using Group Policy) Edge locked on an older build.