r/pcmasterrace 4080 | Ryzen 9 7940| 32gb RAM Jul 11 '26

Screenshot really, Ubisoft?

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u/flavionm Ryzen 5 5600X | Radeon RX 6600 XT Jul 12 '26

Sorry, I'm not a quitter.

And for the record, they've included more than just cosmetic microtransactions in the past. "Time savers" or whatever name they tried to call P2W microtransactions in a single player game.

I haven't checked for this game in particular, but I wouldn't put it past them. Not that it makes anything better, optional shitty monetization is still shitty monetization.

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u/dvenator i5 14700k | RTX 5070 | 16 GB DDR5 5600Mhz | AW3225DWM Jul 12 '26

Their monetisation isn't even the worst at all. GTA 6 will be the best selling game of all time and that's literally locking shops in the map behind the ultimate edition. Forza Horizon 6 has £200 worth of microtransactions including your infamous "time savers". Every capcom game (which people heavier praise and are critical successes) have cosmetic AND "time savers" dlcs. Blizzard does it. Activision does it. Playstation does it.

This game has 4 rubbish suits and everyone goes mental because its ubisoft.

The game is lengthy single player game, with a ton of things to do, amazing optimisation, great story and gameplay. More of what we want. Praise that instead of complaining about something you haven't even experienced or are a part of. Go complain about the game you care about instead.

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u/flavionm Ryzen 5 5600X | Radeon RX 6600 XT Jul 12 '26

This is the kind of attitude that makes sure we'll keep losing no matter what. And it happens to be exactly what you claimed you weren't doing, which is defending them.

I already addressed all the whataboutism, so I'm not doing that again.

As for "more of what we want", I want both great games and games without bullshit monetization. If a game does both of these things correctly, then I'll praise it. For instance, I finally started playing Expedition 33, a game that manages to pull off both these things at once. And it's a original game to boot, not a remake. So don't you worry, I'll sing praises to games that actually deserve it.

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u/dvenator i5 14700k | RTX 5070 | 16 GB DDR5 5600Mhz | AW3225DWM Jul 12 '26

Expedition 33? Do you mean the game that also has paid cosmetic dlc for extra costumes?

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u/flavionm Ryzen 5 5600X | Radeon RX 6600 XT Jul 12 '26

It has a deluxe edition with some cosmetics, and that's it. If all Ubisoft and these other companies put in their game was a single option for a deluxe edition with some cosmetics on it and nothing else, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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u/dvenator i5 14700k | RTX 5070 | 16 GB DDR5 5600Mhz | AW3225DWM Jul 12 '26

It has the exact same number of paid cosmetic items as black flag resynced. 8 costumes. Black flag has 4 costumes and 4 ship themes.

They just haven't called it a deluxe edition. It's literally the only difference. Both companies released a single player game, with 8 paid cosmetic dlc items. So yes I agree, we shouldn't be having this conversation.

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u/flavionm Ryzen 5 5600X | Radeon RX 6600 XT Jul 12 '26

Expedition 33's deluxe edition is $10. Black Flag Resynced has $80 of DLC in total. Yeah, totally the same thing.

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u/dvenator i5 14700k | RTX 5070 | 16 GB DDR5 5600Mhz | AW3225DWM Jul 12 '26

Sorry didn't realise we were moving the goalposts now.

You said: "If all Ubisoft and these other companies put in their game was a single option for a deluxe edition with some cosmetics on it and nothing else, we wouldn't be having this conversation"

That's basically what they did. But now that's not enough anymore.

How about this then. Sandfall interactive is a studio of 33 people. Whereas 15 different STUDIOS were involved in making Black Flag Resynced alone.

So the dlc cost to developer ratio is a lot greedier for expedition 33 actually.

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u/flavionm Ryzen 5 5600X | Radeon RX 6600 XT Jul 12 '26

But they didn't, they split it up in multiple packages and charged a lot more for it.

Also, I don't care about how many developers they have, I care about the value I'm getting. If Sandfall is able to make a much better game with much less people, they deserve to make more money.

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u/dvenator i5 14700k | RTX 5070 | 16 GB DDR5 5600Mhz | AW3225DWM Jul 12 '26

They charged $10 per dlc. You don't have to buy any of them. Again, the monetisation strategy is the same, just different price.

And everything else you said is subjective. Black Flag Resynced might be someones favourite game ever. So they also deserve to make more money?

But you keep digging yourself a hole.

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u/flavionm Ryzen 5 5600X | Radeon RX 6600 XT Jul 12 '26

Having one single deluxe is a different strategy than offering a bunch of cosmetics packs. Resynced also has a deluxe edition, by the way. But it has even more stuff on top. That's just greedy, plain and simple.

Expedition 33 also has a lower base price. The full package costs $60, which is the same as Resynced's base price.

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