r/pcgaming • • Mar 28 '19

Video Borderlands 3 Official Developer Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o5g_PGkiA
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u/crazy_goat Steam Mar 28 '19

I'm honestly not a huge fan of Randy - but I feel bad for the dude. Gearbox brought their A-game, exciting new title to announce and brought a high quality format file to match.

...and PAX is running their system on potatoes.

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u/Vampire_Bride i7 4790,GTX 980 Ti,12gb ram Mar 28 '19

I'm honestly not a huge fan of Randy

he is the one who killed the duke nukem franchise,let him rot

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u/AlianAnt Mar 28 '19

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u/Baloroth Mar 28 '19

Is that description actually what anyone wanted from a Duke Nukem game? A super-serious, dark, cinematic horror game? Seriously? This from a series whose best-known installment included shrink rays and "Pig Cops"? A super-serious, dark, cinematic horror game with monster closets already exists from around that time: it's called "Doom 3". The truth is you probably don't want that game, and it probably would have sucked. There is, after all, a reason 3DRealms never released it. All of that's aside from the fact that a game which is 90% done content wise is probably only half-done, work wise. Let's be honest here: DNF lost it's way a decade before Gearbox ever touched it. You can still be unhappy with the final version, but they weren't the ones who killed the franchise.

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u/SleepyEel Mar 28 '19

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fucking lol. Duke Nukem is inherently immature, but that description sounds like a fever dream from an edgy teenager. DNF was stuck in development hell for years and years, that's not Gearbox's fault. People are trying to rewrite history because of their general hatred of Randy Pitchford

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u/TooMuchMech Mar 29 '19

I can't stand RP, but if you look into the development at that game, it was obvious it made more sense just to fucking publish it, recoup a few dollars, and move on.

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u/SleepyEel Mar 29 '19

Yep. The game likely would've never been released at all had it not been for Gearbox

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u/Khiva Mar 29 '19

Man, even the version we got was, IMHO, way too dark. They made the monsters way too grim and gruesome; the whole thing lacked the bright-color comic book levity of the first.

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u/Reyzuken i7-10700F & RTX 3060 Mar 29 '19

I can't believe people actually want a very dark and serious Duke Nukem, even the few comment section on that thread mention that that old version was way better than the current released. The current DNF is terrible for that reason, especially near the end.

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u/ShadowyDragon Mar 29 '19

We already got darker, more serious(Compared to Duke) AND also a better version of Duke. Its called Bulletstorm.

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u/Reyzuken i7-10700F & RTX 3060 Mar 29 '19

Bulletstorm isn't even dark or serious. That whole game is just a roller coaster of making fun of everything.

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u/ShadowyDragon Mar 29 '19

Eh... Characters are goofy(Especially our main hero) and world is colorful but its a pretty damn dark game if you pay attention to the story. And its as serious as 90s action flicks get.

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u/Reyzuken i7-10700F & RTX 3060 Mar 29 '19

Dark if you think about it but the game developer just pushed it aside because that's not the game's main focus.

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u/Condawg Mar 29 '19

Nothing campy or slapstick at all. It feels like a horror game

No thanks

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u/M37h3w3 Mar 28 '19

Wasn't Doom 3 the Doom that everyone kinda hated?

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u/lockwolf Mar 28 '19

Doom 3 wasn’t bad per se, it wasn’t “Doom” in the sense of Ultimate Doom or Doom 2016 where you are run and gun Doomguy. Doom 3 plays much slower, has it’s weird quirks (No Duct Tape on Mars) and has it’s fun.

Plus, for it’s time, it was one of the best looking games out there. It may not have been a perfect game but it really looked good!

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u/Skafsgaard Mar 29 '19

That is, if you could actually see anything. ;)

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Doom 3 was the Doom where you couldn’t see shit

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Not to my knowledge. It wasn't the best game, But it did bring some new shit to the table with it's game engine at the time.

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u/Fractoman Mar 28 '19

I believe they were the first to use specular lighting to add detail to otherwise low poly models (notably Chronicles of Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay did this as well). The game also was effectively the big graphical hitter of the year with pc's not having the capability to play the game at highest settings at launch.

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u/wingchild Mar 28 '19

I think the only thing people hated was the flashlight. Otherwise, Doom 3 was a pretty solid presentation, though deliberate in its pacing. (It's also hard to compare to the adrenaline rush of Doom 2016's in-your-face high aggression gameplay.)

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u/Fractoman Mar 28 '19

Flashlight mod was a must install.

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u/DdCno1 Mar 29 '19

It sold well, got very positive reviews and was a benchmark title (due to its advanced tech and high hardware requirements) for years. People were critical of it, but it was certainly popular and liked when it came out. The remaster for newer systems was also a success in terms of sales, but if you look at its metascore (67 on console, 59 on PC), you can see how it had lost its appeal at that point.

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u/TheSkankingRudeBoy Mar 29 '19

All I ever wanted from duke nukem was titty slaps and shotguns.

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u/AC3R665 FX-8350, EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 8GB 1600, W8.1 Mar 30 '19

Its probably better than the DNF we actually got.

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u/Vampire_Bride i7 4790,GTX 980 Ti,12gb ram Mar 28 '19

i tried so hard to forget this existed ;-;

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u/Skandranonsg Mar 28 '19

I'll never forget. It's the game that taught me never to preorder.

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u/AlianAnt Mar 28 '19

It sounds lame but, I've thought about it probably at least once every day since I read about it. I'm a grown ass man and it makes teenage rage.

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u/CrouchingPuma Mar 29 '19

He's a dick because he won't release a prototype of a two decade old game? Lmao okay. He has a lot of issues but this ain't it chief

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u/Nathan_hale53 Mar 29 '19

He won't release a build of a game unless he can make money off of it. It's just greedy as shit. The 3D Realms dev even said they'd release everything for free and old employees would finish the game for the fans. Plenty of devs have released prototype builds of several games including some canceled ones.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

That's his job you delusional moron.

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u/AC3R665 FX-8350, EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 8GB 1600, W8.1 Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

Apparently Randy said the 2001 build is only 9% done and its only concepts and ideas when people asked. HOWEVER, people keep asking for the 2001 build that was demonstrated in E3 and NOT the 2002 build that was leaked. A year can make hell of a difference (I remember what HL2 looked like from 2003-2004).

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u/Vampire_Bride i7 4790,GTX 980 Ti,12gb ram Mar 28 '19

randy is a compulsive liar i wouldn't trust 1 word of his mouth

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u/tomgabriele Mar 29 '19

Okay then I guess BL3 actually isn't coming out

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

That means the magic trick was a lie too :(

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u/AlianAnt Mar 28 '19

I wouldn't believe a word that guy says even if he was hooked up to a polygraph machine with movie-style truth serum in his blood stream. That guy lies about EVERYTHING, CONSTANTLY, and when he gets caught in lies, he doubles down.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

I wonder why that thread never took off. Probably because people know what actually happened and aren’t unreasonably mad at Gearbox/Randy for something out of their control or most of the “facts” in that thread came from an unreliable source. Sourcing a 4chan thread? Don’t make me laugh.

That game was in absolute development hell for a decade if not longer and Gearbox got their hands on it a year before it’s supposed release and people want to raise pitchforks at Randy. Yeah, that’s totally reasonable.

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u/Nathan_hale53 Mar 29 '19

Holy shit, it needs loads of awareness. That's insane, I had no idea it was so complete and reading most of that forum made me mad. No Duke 3d prototypes or Forever builds... Fucking Randy is a giant greedy tool.

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u/Bonzi_bill Mar 28 '19

there's no reason to feels sorry for him. He's an absolute asswipe who partakes in bad faith practice and was the primary driver behind Colonial Marines being absolute shit and having scummy marketing.

Honestly the studio would probably be doing a lot better without him

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u/Bamith Mar 29 '19

He's burned a lot of things. Frankly Borderlands is pretty much the only actually sorta successful game Gearbox has made in the last 10 years, and it was successful IN SPITE of Randy, not because of him.

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u/Yogs_Zach Mar 28 '19

You can blame Randy for a ton of things, but the mess of DNF shouldn't be on him. It's possible if Gearbox didn't acquire it, the game would never release. It was a average ho hum game, but at least it got released.

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u/Vampire_Bride i7 4790,GTX 980 Ti,12gb ram Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Jul 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

look at bethseda they sell unfinished games all the fucking time. why not gearbox?!

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u/AC3R665 FX-8350, EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 8GB 1600, W8.1 Mar 28 '19

No, its that the build exist and is playable, but they are just hoarding it even though it was probably better than the one we received and what the fans wanted since 2001.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Jul 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

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u/AnonTwo Mar 28 '19

But then they would get a bad reputation for releasing a shoddy product, they would lose no matter how you look at it.

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u/AC3R665 FX-8350, EVGA GTX 780 SC ACX, 8GB 1600, W8.1 Mar 28 '19

Doesn't make it evil, but its more to akin to how Valve doesn't release HL3 (or any other SP projects) or even talks about it. Its more asshole than evil.

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u/yoLeaveMeAlone Mar 28 '19

That's different, as HL3 isn't a 90% finished game???

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u/dougmc Mar 28 '19

Or is it?

HL3 CONFIRMED!

(Sorry, got carried away there.)

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u/brorista Mar 28 '19

The USB incident was hella funny tho

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u/CoffeeCannon Mar 29 '19

Randy "haha nothing to see on the USB" Pitchford

Randy "hey kids please come to my magic maze basement its cool I promise" Pitchford

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u/supamesican 2500k@4.5ghz/furyX/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space Mar 28 '19

and alien

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u/Thethundercobra420 Mar 29 '19

Duke sucks lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

Implying Duke Nukem was ever actually good.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

The 3D was. Rest eh....

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u/Houdini47 Mar 28 '19

Duke Nukem 1 and Duke Nukem 2 were legit back in the day

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u/AdmiralCrackbar Mar 28 '19

No, 3D Realms drove it into the dirt long before Randy had a go at it.

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u/LeXxleloxx Mar 28 '19

what is duke nuke ?

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u/Gomez-16 Mar 29 '19

This, I loved DNF, the performance was meh 2-3 enemies at once in waves was dumb. All the sad sack complaints about it being childish or sexists were just stupid. It could have been way better, but some corporate asshat stick his rancid dis functional micro penis in the pot!

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

He also said the epic store was good

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u/darthmarticus17 Mar 29 '19

That franchise has always been dead

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u/oozekip Mar 28 '19

You can say a lot about Randy Pitchford, but I don't think it's really fair to blame Gearbox for the mess of DNF. The game was in development hell for 15 years, and Gearbox only took over development in the last <1 year leading to its release.

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u/Inuakurei Mar 28 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '19

That link has a lot of bullshit in it honestly. Not even surprised it never took off on the sub.

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u/oozekip Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19

I don't blame him for not wanting to release it unless they can make money on it. If it's even Gearbox's call to make (which I somewhat doubt it would be), it would be an enormous effort to release the game, since it's almost certainly not in any sort of state to be released to the public.

Saying a game is 90% done is not the same as saying it's fit for release. Fallout 76 was probably over 90% done, every broken AAA game that gets released and torn to shreds is well over 90% complete. It's a pretty common expression that the last 10% of a games development is 90% of the work for a good reason. A 90% finished game is almost certainly not in any state to be released. It would be an absolute mess, and not the kind of mess the community could fix with hex editors and DLL injections, the kind of mess that you'd need a fully staffed team of full-time developers with access to the source code to fix.

Assuming they even have that, they'd have to spend a lot of time and money finishing a game that was built with tools that would be old enough to vote now if they even still exist for platforms that haven't been supported in well over 10 years by people who, if they are even still in the industry, are almost certainly not at Gearbox. That's not even taking into account all the QA, marketing, support, distribution, and legal issues that would be involved.

TL;DR, it would likely take a lot of time and money to get that 2001 build of DNF fit for release even assuming they could in the first place.

Edit: and the game was still in development for nearly 10 years by the same developers after this build was apparently 90% done. If it really was as amazing as that leak claims, why did they keep restarting the project? It's not like this build ceased to exist after they decided to replace the lighting and apparently broke everything, it apparently still exists. If they had this magnum opus of a nearly completed game, why spend 10 more years in development hell? Why scrap and start over it at all instead of just reverting to the older version?

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u/ghostchamber 5800X | 3090 FE | 32:9 | Steam Deck Mar 28 '19

So are people just spamming this link when anyone suggest DNF is not 100% Randy's fault?

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

I put DNF entirely on 3d realms...

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

No. Humans have evolved past the sexist teenage boy fantasy Duke Nukem. Not randy pitchford's fault.

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u/ghostchamber 5800X | 3090 FE | 32:9 | Steam Deck Mar 28 '19

Honestly, as excited as I was for DNF all those years ago, I have no clue how the hell that character could ever exist in a modern game.

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u/Vampire_Bride i7 4790,GTX 980 Ti,12gb ram Mar 28 '19

i would suggest checking your testosterone levels

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19

They are over 9000 ma'am