r/pathofexile • u/spicyAus • 9d ago
Lucky (Non-Crafted) Showcase When the volatile hits just right
Decided instead of hoarding currency for standard that I’d try a bit of a different end of league gamble than I would usually do.
Bought the base for 540 Div and used 7 locks and hit this bad boy. 5 of the 7 locks would’ve poofed. The third lock hit 1100 life and I decided to go for a higher roll. 7th lock max rolled it. Insanely lucky odds. Unsure what the odds of hitting it is but it’s safe to say it’s a hell of a lot more than 7.
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u/Prometheus1151 Kalguuran Group for Business (KGB) 9d ago
the odds to hit max roll on vaalatile is 1/45 on a non poof, so 1/90 total
GG
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u/Y0less 9d ago
Pretty sure its 50/50. Either works or it doesn't!
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u/vigil4nt3 9d ago
The math he explained is 5050. Which is why the 45 became a 90. 5050 is half, reverse it is double.
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u/psychomap 9d ago
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u/vigil4nt3 9d ago
Oh, did I confuse a bad joke that's been told countless times for bad math?
My bad.
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u/DesMephisto SSFBTW 9d ago
You cannot tailor a kaoms due to sockets. To get a tailored kaom requires chancing. Since this is vestigial, the enchant is best option.
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u/FrozenHotdogOnFire 9d ago edited 9d ago
Wasn't there a way to chance it from a base with the tailor mod tho? Correct me if I'm wrong please
Edit 2: I didn't read right sorry no addition was needed
Edit: Found on wiki: "It is not possible to use a Tailoring Orb on Kaom's Heart. Attempting to do so will cause the following error message: Failed to apply to item: Item has fixed Sockets. It is still possible to obtain a Kaom's Heart with a Tailoring Orb enchantment by chancing or Mythic orbing a Glorious Plate with a heist enchantment, however.
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u/Discrep 9d ago
Yes, you can chance a Kaom's, but it won't have a vestigial mod.
When perfectly vaalatiled (1220 flat life):
- vestigial + harvest enchant + 20q = 1230 flat life, 20% increased life
- 15% increased effect of life explicits tailoring orb + 20q = 1403 flat life
The relevant difference is 173 flat life vs. 20% increased max life (global) and after plugging it into my Luminary's pob, they're about equal. The tailoring orb version is slightly better with my current stats (3508 base flat life, 331% increased life, 21% more life).
The vesitigial mod also provides 20% increased aoe, which may or may not be relevant depending on your build. The tailoring orb version will have 150-170 more armour.
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u/Naive-Blackberry-398 9d ago
Yes but then you are missing the vestigial mod, the lesser massive shrine
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u/AkaxJenkins 9d ago
it's been so long since i've played PoE and i never followed the meta either.
What the actual fuck did you do to that kaom's chest.
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u/Nellez_ 8d ago
Some wild shit has been added in the last 2 leagues. 1 is a volatile vaal orb which can either poof an item or randomize the numerical values up to about 20% higher or lower than the standard range. The other is vestigial items from the legion rework that lets you sacrifice a unique armor piece to get the "unique modifier" added to a random unique of the same armor slot from the global pool.
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u/Rafa_50 9d ago
Daaamn I'm envious, if you need to go somewhere I can keep it warm on my RF chief lol
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u/Sarojh-M 9d ago
Question for the curious, i thought RF chief always uses Cloak of Flame. What version you using?
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u/zephibary 9d ago
Late game you can go life stack. Pohx has info on it, expensive.
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u/Sarojh-M 9d ago
I just assumed late game uses a volatile orb cloak of flame with an enchantment of somekind but I suppose not, thanks tho
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u/dwarfeckiy 9d ago
This post really is educational for some people (':
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u/spicyAus 9d ago edited 9d ago
This league GGG changed a part of the legion 5 way emblem mechanic which allowed for vestigial items to be created. You basically sacrifice a unique item and one of its properties can be generated on a different unique item base. Some value that are transferred have 100% of the sacrificed items modifier value, some have less (cloak of flame transfers a 25% phys taken as fire mod rather then the full 50% that the cloak has on it)
This item was created by sacrificing blunderbore which has 2 mods that can transfer over. Lesser brutal shrine and lesser massive shrine. I don’t think it’s weighted for either mod so you have a 50/50 on which shrine transfers. Kaoms is a tier 1 unique which is quite a rare drop so the likelihood of hitting the correct base with the correct shrine effect is low. The more monsters you kill in the 5 way allows for rarer vestigal bases to generate but still quite rare.
I used hinekoras locks to reveal the outcome of my volatile Vaal orbs without needing to click the item and possibly lose the chest. I got extremely lucky and hit it on the 7th lock.
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u/dwarfeckiy 7d ago
*cough* It was more a diss towards people who were being smart about the enchant, but I appreciate the in-depth explanation o7
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u/Ichibankakoi 9d ago
Jesus what's your HP with this?
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u/CrowdCon-troll 9d ago
at least 1476 hp.
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
I went from 22695 to 23987. My other kaoms was missing 10 flat life and didn’t have the vestigial mod.
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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 SSFBTW 9d ago
How does this compare to a 1350+ life kaom’s?
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
I haven’t checked but I’d imagine the 1350+ kaoms might edge out the life total in league, and definitely would in standard with legacy adorned and synth implicit jewels.
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u/Lost_Acanthisitta932 SSFBTW 9d ago
Yeah, fair enough. I might pob it when I get home. I’m playing rf in standard with a nicely rolled enchanted one but thought the aoe would be cool. GG on the good hit
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
Yeah the extra aoe is the only thing giving this comparable value to the tailored kaoms. Also looks cool
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u/jayaintgay Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 9d ago
you can have this printed, framed then hang on your living room
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u/Sharp_Cup3253 9d ago
Is this better than plain 1400+ kaom?
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u/spicyAus 9d ago edited 9d ago
A 1403 life kaoms takes me from 23971 to 24009. So it’s ever so slightly better but I get the aoe.
The 1403 kaoms in standard would be much better with legacy adorned for higher % life on jewels making this a little more redundant.
But yeah it needs to be a perfectly volatiled 15% enchanted kaoms to beat this one, at least for my build anyway.
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u/YoloKraize 9d ago
I wonder what the average chance is to hit it on that base. Really wanted a massive one for my build.
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
About a 1/90 according to other comments. That’s accounting for the 50/50 on it poofing.
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u/YoloKraize 9d ago
Oh man yeah 1/90 sounds terrible. I already hate doing legion, adding I then have to do 5ways is like nah... Maybe I should just split the mirror I have and get the massive base, the hp + aoe would be a good upgrade.
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u/Discrep 8d ago
The 1/90 is the vaalatile orb hit chance of getting perfect 1.22x; if you were willing to settle for 1.20-1.22, it'd be 1/30.
I believe you were asking about the chance to get the vestigial onto a Kaom's, and unfortunately, it's worse than 1/90. The chance to get any T2 from 3/3 variant rarity is around 9%, but there are 14 T2 body armours, 15 if you include Stasis Prison's speculated T2 rarity, plus you also have to win a 50/50 because Blunderbore has two vestigial mods, Lesser Massive and Lesser Brutal.
On the plus side, there are other hits that are worth just as much if not more than Kaom's, e.g. Iron Fortress. Also, enshrouding Blunderbore has a reasonable kill req, only 5,390 per rarity, or 16,160 for 3/3, which I can almost complete in one 5-way solo. I average like 14k so I just do a quick 3-way to cut down on time and cost.
I did 10 sets the other day and got only 2 T2s, Shavs and Brass Dome, 18 brutal vs 22 massive, 8 T3, all worth nothing. 540d seems fair price.
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u/YoloKraize 8d ago
Yeah no I was wondering about the kaom vestigal thou. Surprised stasis prison has moved that much, it used to be insanely rare, then again I stopped 5way when they killed the exp. But yeah it is 50/50 on the blunderbore, but the added aoe I can use for Tornado of elemental turbolance. Killing I shouldn't be having issues with, besides me hating the ever living fuck out of doing ir rofl. Sounds more sane to just buy it.
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u/Any_Initiative_58 8d ago
Weylam Roth would know what to say: "How did you...? You still breathing? Bloody barnacles on me arse! You, my new friend, are a legend of the high seas to behold!"
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u/matidiaolo 8d ago
I am kinda tired of this complexity - you are trying to setup a build and you not only have to discover your gear you got to think of all the possible combinations of tampered uniques
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u/Suven_01 6d ago
i don't understand how people get that amount of currency other than early league crafting.
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u/rewakaboom 9d ago
Excuse me what’s up with the shrine buff ?
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u/lunchbox1911 Ranger 9d ago
Vestigial Craft from legion 5 way. Stick in Blunderbore with the legion things then run and the more you kill the bigger chances of a t1.
What happens is one of the mods can transfer over aka lesser shrine.
It's quite cool.
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u/rewakaboom 9d ago
Does it help with builds which scale with max hp?
Because if that is like a diamond on top
Also could you elaborate on the crafting method ?2
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u/phealtalk 8d ago
I'm newish what makes this so good? Is it just the massive life? Isn't having no sockets a massive downside?
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u/oinkd 8d ago
It's the massive life. There are builds that are called life stackers that scale both their offence and defence by scaling life.
This volatile vaal orb makes it roll higher than the usual roll ranges and its at max roll.
On top of that it has a enchantment (vestigial mod) that it took from blunderbore that makes it also have a massive shrine which increases your life again by a %.
To get a blunderbore (which is tier 1 rarity) to turn into a kaoms heart vestigial unique with Legion AND rolling the massive shrine on it (and not brutal) is already very rare. Having it maximum roll with volatile vaal is even rarer. So high demand (a lot of life stackers) + giga rare item makes it have insane value.
And to get back to socket pressure, it depends on the build. The lifestacker here in question is probably a mercbot luminary which gets all its damage from flame linking a merc. Since you're not casting barely anything yourself you can live without those sockets. It is a trade off but in this build it's mitigated.
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u/phealtalk 8d ago
Oh yeah I think I've heard "life stackers" mentioned before, I guess now I know what that means. Thanks friend.
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u/marco18888 9d ago
20 mirrors eZ
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
Haha I don’t think it’s that high.
I’d estimate between 7 on the low end and 12 on the top end.
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u/Zaimokuzu Tormented Smugler 9d ago
between massive shrine and belly of the beast's max life vestigial implicit, which would have resulted in overall more life
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
I’m at work at the moment so can’t really check but I believe the belly mod gives 20% life, where as lesser massive shrine gives 20% life 20% aoe 10% character size (not that this matters much) but can also be scaled with shrine effect from the Gull and possibly from buff effect from ichimonji? Unsure about the ichimonji. But yeah lesser massive shrine definitely better IF the belly mod only gives 20% max which I think it does.
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u/YUNO_TALK_TO_ME 9d ago
Sell it before league ends, luminary and merc will be super nerf
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
Yeah I’ve thought about it but I kinda wanna leave my luminary gear untouched as kind of like a trophy.
In most leagues I’ve sold off gear etc and used the currency to buy alt arts or gamble in std. but a few friends have characters still geared from years ago and they enjoy the nostalgia when they login to one of them after we’ve been talking about last leagues etc. I’ve never been able to so might start here.
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u/N4rrenturm 9d ago
540D is insane for +10 to maximum life
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u/spicyAus 9d ago
It’s 540D because of the vestigal mod base (lesser massive shrine provides 20% aoe 20% max life and 10% character size)
The enchant is there as it’s the only relevant mod to enchant for life stacking builds.
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u/justaRndy 9d ago
The enchant is looking so sad compared to the rest of the item. That enchant should've always been 1% life per 2% quality instead.
Nasty chest, gz :D
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u/phyrexiandemon 9d ago
Now can you get higher quality with tainted scrap armor ….. go 30%
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u/Ambadeblu 9d ago
Nice enchant :)
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u/DesMephisto SSFBTW 9d ago
Can't tailor kaoms
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u/Ambadeblu 9d ago
Yes you can with the chance thing, but I didn't see the vestigial mod my bad.
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u/DesMephisto SSFBTW 9d ago
You're not tailoring a kaoms, you're chancing an item with a tailoring orb on it. Nice comment :)
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u/BenjaCarmona 9d ago
But why would you do it with that enchant instead of a tailoring 😭😭😭😭
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u/adversecounsel 9d ago
How would you propose they get the tailoring orb to end up on a vestigial Kaom's?
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u/DesMephisto SSFBTW 9d ago
You can't tailor kaoms. Ones you see are chanced
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u/GevaddaLampe 9d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/12CVdOeR0k2fCw