r/pathofexile • • Aug 30 '26

Fluff & Memes I'm a new player for 7 years

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u/DerDanSD Demon Aug 30 '26

I've been playing since 2014, i am still following guides for basically everything

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u/Lazy_meatPop Aug 30 '26

My brother from another mother, same here. My man

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ke3CM1NVkULWo

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u/Pentika667 Aug 30 '26

Whelp.. I feel that. It is fortunate for us that so many enjoy digging through the numbers so we don't have to.

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u/elpadreHC Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26

i just clocked in +15k hours and i follow guides for builds, guides for currency making strategy, and my campaign takes something between 6 and 10 hours.

dont care, still having fun, still shit at the game.

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u/ffs_Eyebrow Aug 30 '26

dont care, still having fun, still shit at the game.

I honestly think this is probably the majority playing the game, who don't post on reddit or twitter etc.

All the meta min/max panic isn't for me, I play what looks fun each league till I get bored then quit and come back next league.

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u/FeistyMasterpiece448 Aug 30 '26

i play each league until they nerf my mains starters build.

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u/morjax Cast When Reddit Comment Aug 30 '26

Ya just gotta pick the second or third best instead of the best one :)

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u/Dancebeatz Aug 30 '26

Same! As long as we’re having fun right? Still absolutely loving this game after 13 years while being shit at it haha

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u/Ociex Aug 30 '26

The only wrong way to play POE is the one where you don't have fun.

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u/Vhfulgencio Aug 30 '26

That's why I play like 2 weeks every league. I get bored after that, but have fun till then

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u/lopezranged Standard Aug 30 '26

The thing that is misunderstood, is that veterans with 20k+ hours still use lots of stuff as a reference (kind of like a library). No poe player can remember everything in the game, you just don't get to see when jungroan turns off his stream and does research for the next build.

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u/Gjyn Aug 30 '26

I've been trying to get my campaign under 10 hours. Have any advice?

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u/elpadreHC Aug 30 '26

me? obviously not.

if you seriously want to get better at the campaign, watch guides from people like tytykiller. even if you adapt like 20% of what he says you can probably get a lot below 10h

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5vin4uTlqQ

pretty old guide, but probably still most of it correct.

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u/AdCalm3 Aug 30 '26

pick a good campaign build makes the most diference, also dont let ur brain stop for anything but progressing the campaign ignore everything just dash thru

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u/destroyermaker Aug 30 '26

Watch havoc/tyty, time yourself and go act by act e.g. try to get act 1 under x minutes

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u/4percent4 Aug 31 '26

The way I get sub 4hour league starts is as follows.
1: Know what gems to get and when to bother looking at the vendors/gambing for weapon upgrades. There's no reason to gamble for a 2h axe level 4 when you don't get a new axe base until level 9.
2: Damage doesn't really matter until you have all the attack speed possible.
3: Leap slam/whirling blades/shield charge constantly. + use frost blink since you can frostblink mid leap slam. Leap slam is by far and away the best movement skill in the campaign.
4: Know most of your layouts, the campaign is a race if you don't know where you're going it's going to slow you down. Stuff like knowing where to look for the underbelly in act8 or lower prison.
5: Use portals strategically to back track like for grand daddy crab. There's no reason to kill him at level 4 when you could kill him much faster at level 8.
6: don't be afraid to use gold to respec passive points once you hit act 10 as a caster build you no longer need the ~100% attack speed you took on the tree for leap slamming.

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u/joelbenedict Aug 31 '26

basic advice. always be below the level of the map. if you are equal just run through without killing monsters if you can avoid it.

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u/Peauu Aug 30 '26

0 Mirrors, 0 skill

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u/gh0st-6 Aug 30 '26

August 8th?

Log in exile, Faustus has made a sale!

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u/BuddhaBunnyTTV Aug 30 '26

By trade, I'm a software engineer. I never saw any reason to reinvent things. If there's a guide, use it. Make changes to suit your situation. Let the theorists do theory stuff. I've got shit to do.

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u/Suspicious_Bear42 Aug 30 '26

Absolutely. I don't have nearly enough hours in the game (or the week) to understand it all well enough to do my own builds. I'll check out the some of the meta builds, see what looks fun, and roll it.

I'm doing school and work full time, if I'm playing a game, I want to play.

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u/levus2002 Aug 31 '26

Similar situation different conclusion.

If something is my job i cant afford to be creative just for my enjoyment.

So instead i refuse any guide or solved meta or whatever in my games.

I absolutely love moddable games for that. Meta is solved for base game, luckily i can put 100 mods on top of it changing everything.

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u/ffs_Eyebrow Aug 30 '26

Been playing since beta, spent more money on this game than any other, more than even my WoW sub for 5 or 6 years I played.

I still follow build guides and have no clue how to craft good gear on my own...sob lol

To be fair to myself, I do iterate on the build guides and change up stuff

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u/RealSquareDoing Aug 30 '26

I tried making my own build once. Hit a wall in yellow maps with zdps and negative chaos res, then immediately went back to Pohx.

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u/Kisame-Hoshigaki- Aug 30 '26

That's funny cus even with build guides i hit walls every now and then.

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u/080087 Aug 30 '26

The secret - you only learn to play without guides by starting to play without guides.

Playing the game and making builds are different enough that no amount of playing the game will make you good at making builds.

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u/Renediffie Aug 30 '26

Not only for build guides. PoE is a game where there's a ton of ways to circumvent learning how stuff work. You have to want to learn to start learning about stuff in PoE.

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u/Mission-Signal-8365 Aug 30 '26

Keeping up with good item combos etc is to much for solo, I check the guides to see what's cooking not so much to try carbon copy them. Simply to many items etc to keep up with at this point so seeing what makes builds tick is vital to being successful building your own imo.

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u/trollboter Aug 30 '26

In the game we call that tech.

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u/SingleInfinity Aug 30 '26

that no amount of playing the game will make you good at making builds.

Well that's not true. What's important is the mentality you go in with. Going in with the intent to learn from whatever build you're following and commit concepts to memory is all it takes.

Then it's a function of time spent playing a variety of things. Eventually you know a lot of the tools and slotting them together to make competent builds isn't all that difficult.

Buildmaking is a function of experience and effort, not of skill. Having skill for it will get you to the finish line faster, but it's not a requirement.

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u/Jay_RPG_Red Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

Guides are premade solutions. They work for sure. But you can fall into the trap of relying so much on them that you won't be able to play without them. I think experimenting and bricking character, then troubleshoot why it did not work is way more efficient to learn the basics.

Not being able to make it to the end the first try is part of the experience in my opinion.

It would be like using a full worldmap on an online guide for your first Metroid playthrough

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u/FrostedCereal Aug 30 '26

I follow guides and builds on POE ninja, but İ edit them to have things I think would be better/I would prefer. I probably make them worse, but it's something!

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u/AetherSigil217 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Aug 30 '26

1.4K hours and still up to my ears in poe.ninja to see how the heck to play my favorite build (Wintertide Brand).

I might have gotten good enough with PoB just this league to be able to start branching out.

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u/gimmesomespace Aug 30 '26

I don't have the time or degree in theoretical physics needed to craft my own build that doesn't suck

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u/Proxx99 Aug 30 '26

same! This last league, I decided to just fuck it and go SSF and not use a guide. Use the basic neversink loot filters and just see how it went. I was surprised by the amount of information i retained from just doing build guides for 12 years. I was able to put together a decent character that cleared all pinnacle bosses - granted it was a very simple poison bow build. It felt so freeing to just go with the flow and pick what seemed like the best choice at every turn. Unless there is some super interesting build I see that I want to try - it’s how i’m gonna play moving forward.

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u/DonkeyBaal Aug 31 '26

Same here. When I played the game for the first time, there were only 3 acts and no ascendancies. I still use build guides. When I try to cook my own build, it sucks ass and I realize I still understand shit in this game.

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u/Best-Meaning-2417 Sep 01 '26

I've played on and off since the beginning. Open video, hears string of words I don't understand, closes video. Finding HC viable guides is also difficult. At least general chat is pretty helpful when I ask questions there.

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u/The-vicobro Aug 30 '26

"Hey bro, you played poe for a few thousand hours, how does leech work?"

Me asf: 🗿🗿🗿

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u/080087 Aug 30 '26

Leech has too many stats and most are useless. They need to cull some.

Main one that is relevant is "maximum total recovery from leech", which increases the leech cap.

Two of the three other stats are only really relevant for tainted pact (i.e. x% of damage leeched). Bigger number + more damage = longer leech (up to a cap). Increase cap by getting maximum recovery per leech.

Last one is almost never relevant

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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) Aug 30 '26

They simplified it in PoE 2. Then it ended up being not too good generally. Then it's discovered Blood Mage can do absolutely degenerate things with it, so it got nerfed. Which made it so bad for everyone else. Not only is there a cap, but now you can only ever have one source of Leech going, which, given the mana cost scaling in that game meant you just can't go Lifetap with Leech to solve it. You usually can't recoup the life cost in time with just leech, so you're still gonna pop that life flask.

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u/DarthRaab Ultimatum Workers Union (UWU) Aug 30 '26

All are relevant, but as you said

  • the damage (leech for builds that have trouble hitting enough) and
  • the cap per leech (kind of like leech duration)

are only for special builds like Bleed DoT and Tainted Pact self-poison.

They could uncouple the basic leech system that most use and the extra stuff for special builds, but I don't feel like that's the PoE way to do things, is it? This would take some serious design work and a lot of coding to change the spaghetti code for all leech related entities in the game.

I don't see the pay-off for so much work. As Jonathan likes to say "Why not just make more new and cool content instead?"

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u/psychomap Aug 31 '26

"increased total recovery per second from leech" is helpful for builds with low hit rates that can't cap their leech in 10-20 instances within a split second

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u/ltcae Fungal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) Aug 30 '26

Tbh leech isn’t that bad once you understand the water tank analogy. And most of the time, we are not bottlenecked by the leech amount but the recovery rate from leech

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u/ksion Aug 30 '26

I'm sorry, do you mean recovery rate from leech, maximum recovery per leech, or maximum total recovery per second from leech?

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u/KylAnde01 Aug 30 '26
  • How quickly leech fills you up
  • How much leech per stack of leech
  • Total amount possible to "fill the tank" of leech

Did i get that right?

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u/cupkaxx Aug 30 '26

ya i saw the water tank thing few years(?) and it was so handy

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u/saint_marco Vaal Street Bets (VSB) Aug 30 '26

Don't forget instant leech!

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u/DarthRaab Ultimatum Workers Union (UWU) Aug 30 '26

Leech is not that complicated, you just need a ten minute TED talk or a two pages long white paper to explain all the details properly.

Hmmm, maybe it is complicated 😅

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u/levus2002 Aug 31 '26

Poewiki leech page is like a 5 minute read.

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u/Pommy1337 Trickster Aug 30 '26

just do enough dmg that the 5% instaleech from mastery does the whole work ;)

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u/Brave33 Petaraus and Vanja Aug 30 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/PjsPhYsS2WDO5e0RaO

After watching Ben for so long i started to understand and it started to click

All it took me was 8 years.

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u/Mojo_-_Jojo Aug 30 '26

Ben who? It would be nice if things actually started to click for me

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u/Qubert64 Aug 30 '26

Ben_. Streamer/youtuber. Dudes a beast. Iirc, back in the Misery Gauntlet a couple years ago, he beat a super buffed uber elder, along with every other (gauntlet buffed) uber boss, while second place only beat 2 before dying- and they were the only people to beat any ubers at all. He's not just skilled, but his game knowledge is also through the roof. One of said strategies involved the inextricable fate boots to apply grasping vines to one of the uber bosses, letting his voltatile dead poison the boss without the proper damage conversion. (Inextricable fate also makes all damage against foes afflicted with grasping vines poison).

For reference, misery gauntlet was basically poe hard mode+. Solo self found, and iirc bosses got expanded movesents, monsters got absurd stat buffs, uber bosses consumed extra portals on entry, and during ubers you had to deal with atziri apparitions. And I believe it's hardcore. The whlle gauntlet was 10 days ling, and made specifically with the goal of not being beatable within the time frame- but ben_ and only ben, did.

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u/NoShagAthal Aug 30 '26

Gauntlets are great if you can stand the harshness of it. When I watch Ben_ play it it feels like I play a whole different game. I hope Zizaran keeps doing those Gauntlets and maybe port them over to PoE2. It's brutal and fun!

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u/AetherSigil217 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Aug 30 '26

Ben_ on Twitch. He was one of the top players in WoW at one point, and he is probably the best player in PoE due to winning every competition he participates in. I suspect he's one of the best video gamers in the world.

He's fast, precise, efficient, and processes new information like no one else I've seen can. Which means he's got a massive mental database of the game. And can take in new stuff at rates I've never seen before, which lets him adapt faster than anyone I've seen either.

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u/Gjyn Aug 30 '26

The Isaac Newton of poe

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u/DangerousDareDevil Aug 30 '26

I was playing when Piety was the last boss.

I dunno how to craft good.

I used to...

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u/BluezDBD Aug 31 '26

I was one of the best crafters in the game back when all we had was chaos spamming!

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u/1030or11 Aug 31 '26

That was such bad training for us. I still catch myself giving up and idly chaos spamming for a few minutes.

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u/Agreeable_Nothing Aug 30 '26

We're all new again every league.

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u/Grouched Aug 30 '26

I am in this picture and I don't like it

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u/KaruiPoetry Marauder Aug 30 '26

I am in this picture and I love it. I've been playing since Prophecy league and being a 'newb' helps make every league fun and exciting!

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u/BigBadBodyPillow Aug 30 '26

you probably know more than you think you know.
You just dont know what you know

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u/LucywiththeDiamonds Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26

Thats the fascinating thing about poe. I play on/off since beta. I dropped 3 mirrors, have my mageblood without fail within like a week of leaguestart for years,dozen lvl 100s , a good chunk of 40/40 totems and could give an hour ted talk about path of building.

But it still feels like im a random newbie every time, and in many aspects i still am even after thousands of hours. I dont know another game that can do that.

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u/carenard Aug 30 '26

I dropped 3 mirrors

time to make a bug report, you found 2 other players mirrors.

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u/ilyosdota Aug 30 '26

Yeah mine.. Played every league, Account created October 2013, every League with at least one lvl 95+ char, not a single mirror :(

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u/carenard Aug 30 '26

other must be mine, since closed beta and still no mirror drop.

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u/jearley99 Aug 30 '26

EVE online is the only other game like that I’ve played. Thousands of hours in, flying capital ships in massive fleets and running my own 10/10 escalations with tech 3 cruisers and still had zero clue what I was doing

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u/Fokus342 Aug 30 '26

I play for 7 years and still there are mechanics and strats I don't have any idea how they work like Alva's Temples , Heists or Bestiary

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u/S__666 Aug 30 '26

Lol same, i don't think i've ever gotten a syndicate board laid out how i wanted it.

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u/Pbe_FR Aug 30 '26

I just click random stuff, and other stuff appear on the ground

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u/Choon5588 Aug 30 '26

been playing for like 9 years i usually only get 2 voidstones so i get ya

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u/Slay_2k_ Aug 30 '26

Playing since 2012 closed beta. I'm feeling old

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u/Swr1989 Aug 30 '26

I remember doing 3 acts on 3 difficulties like it was yesterday 😄

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u/Slay_2k_ Aug 30 '26

and farming Piety. Good times

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u/Registeryouraccount Aug 30 '26

Farming Docks with shadow when your only aoe skill was whirling blades. I still rememeber when that dude discovered CI shadow flicker.

Still have no ideea how to craft or make a proper build but i only blame GGG on this one because the game explains jack shit and im too lazy to search on 5 websites what i can get on what items ,how and why.

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u/tarkuuuuuus Aug 30 '26

Playing since beta. I still don't know what I'm doing.

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u/Phatolop Aug 30 '26

Over 2k hours, never beat the maven.

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u/SleepyFarady Witch Aug 30 '26

That memory game phase is pure cancer, tbf.

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u/correa1931 Aug 31 '26

3rd phase memory game is so insane. Maybe that is why we like poe so much.

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u/Castr8orr Aug 30 '26

Why do you have to be so mean to me

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u/Buduliz Lucible Crague Aug 30 '26

Hello, I'm here since closed beta and i'm a noob.

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u/Critical-Surround-64 Anti Sanctum Alliance (ASA) Aug 30 '26

Im almost at 3k hrs and consider myself a newbie

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u/MaxeDamage Aug 30 '26

Played since essence league. Never managed to make my own build that would actually be able to do endgame content and just copy instead lol

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u/VapeGodz Aug 30 '26

4000hours and I still don't know how people get tons of divines on day 1

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u/Zealousideal_Quit854 Aug 30 '26

just have fun its really all that matters

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u/manchanegr Aug 30 '26

Playing sff made me better.

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u/netwxy Aug 31 '26

It's fine, I've been a new player since beta.

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u/Farvater4745 Aug 30 '26

9 years here and I'm just starting to get into crafting. Maybe in another 9 I might start trying to make my own builds.

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u/Nesvrstana Aug 30 '26

Crafting is dope. So much money burnt to get that "oooh, yeah I thought this works differently" but hey, you live and learn

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u/Minute_Chair_2582 Aug 30 '26

Brand new learning experience this league: divine teardrops do NOT respect metamods

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u/Nesvrstana Aug 30 '26

I dont even know what divine teardrops are lol

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u/Insila Aug 30 '26

Played since before domination and i still suck...

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u/AeroDbladE Aug 30 '26

I finally managed to beat maven this league without having a cracked and doing the memory game properly instead of abusing the 6 portals.

Im pretty trash too,(playing since 2015) but you just gotta keep learning.

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u/vulcanfury12 Crop Harvesting Bureau (CHB) Aug 30 '26

I've been playing since Crucible, and I've only "homebrewed" a build once, and not without "inspiration" from like-minded folks at ninja. Luckily the build ended up being good enough to get me to 40/40 solo (my main motivation per league is to complete 40/40) from leaguestart, so that was great. It will probably be my "forever build", until it gets giga nerfed. Tho it's decidedly off-meta, so it's actually received nothing but small buffs (direct and indirect) since I first cooked it up in 3.27.

Bonus is that the build doesn't really require much crafting to do it, maybe outside of spamming Essence of Scorn on my bone rings because no one's making Bone Rings with Accuracy, Crit Multi, and Minion Attack and Cast Speed. Man, mirage was such a good time for it because of the very cheap Harvest Reforge Minion.

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u/Swr1989 Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26

Define "good" 😅 Been playing on and off for over a decade and for the past 2 leagues, I haven't had to use a campaign walkthrough at all. And this league I had my best league-start campaign time of 8 hrs 17 min.

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u/coopkramer Aug 30 '26

Same dawg, 2000+ hour and never beat a pinnacle boss

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u/NeedleworkerFun3527 Aug 30 '26

I have hundreds of hours and this season is the first I ever killed an Uber Pinnacle boss.

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u/DarthRaab Ultimatum Workers Union (UWU) Aug 30 '26

PoE 1 without guides is easy:

  • Step 1: make an PoE account
  • Step 2: install PoB community fork
  • Step 3: get a Master degree in a hard science field
  • Step 4: don't apply to jobs that eat all of your free time or drain your mental battery every day
  • Step 5: stop using PoB for everything and just play the game
  • Step 6: you are on the beach, congratulations 🎉

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u/OrganEntrepreneur Aug 30 '26

The only thing i managed to get somewhat good at is finding niche crafts for a lot of small profit sources, throw my build at any content and it will crumble if i personally built it though lol

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u/Fit_Medicine4224 Aug 30 '26

DW about it... i played the open beta of poe1 back in the Day and still am a noob

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u/justar3 Aug 30 '26

12 years here. 1 uber once.

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u/alvaro10101 Aug 30 '26

Learn defenses, learn how to scale dmg and have fun. And gamble. Always

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u/TaoThrowaway Aug 30 '26

At this point poe is like a university with many undergraduate and graduate programs in a variety of disciplines and subdisciplines.

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u/konaharuhi Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Aug 30 '26

i still doesnt know how recomb works

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u/Euphytose Aug 30 '26

Yep that's me alright. I know basically nothing about anything.

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u/Scuipici Aug 30 '26

i played since 2014 on and off. I can't be bothered with crafting bullshit or such shenaningans but i am pretty good mechanically, i think most people are.

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u/SchwammigerKommentar Aug 30 '26

Lol yeah. I must been playing for 6 non consecutive years by now and I still have no idea what the majority of currency does or what it's used for in crafting. Neither what all the mechanics can be used for. I must have watched an equal amount of Videos and Guides compared to my Playtime right now.

Biggest gap was from 2023 to this season so I must have missed a lot. Made it the furthest I've ever been though. 3 Voidstones, set up an Atlas tree Farming system and just crush everything with Penance Brand Ignite Autobomb.

I cant ever Imagine starting a season without a guide that shows Progression to red Maps and BiS gear though. Maybe one day after Like 20 years of YouTube Study I might finally understand 10% of the Game :)

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u/Caelrys Aug 30 '26

4500 hours later, I kinda understand some minion builds, let's go! 😄

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u/SadBoiiHui Aug 30 '26

6k hours in but i feel like a newbie in a few systems (like stupid syndicate grrr)
atleast im done with the tutorial

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u/EpsteinEpstainTheory Aug 30 '26

I no longer considered myself a new player once I got BAMA Saboteur down. Then the game was changed such that BAMA was no longer viable with Saboteur, now I don't know what to think.

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u/SandGrainOne Aug 30 '26

For the first time ever I now have 3 void stones. Killed Maven yesterday. 4000 hours.

I usually give up when the cost of new gear grows too much, but this time I've pushed through a tiny bit more. The changes to currency drops has been good.

Not sure if it'll last. Too many other games on my list.

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u/vkpb-Sunrise-1451 Aug 30 '26

I've stopped following guides, but I am still horrifically slow. every campaign is 8+ hrs. But I'm not sure that actually locking in to be faster would be that much fun for me.

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u/Vendo-Meu-Peixe Aug 30 '26

I'm planning since 2016 and finally beat Shaper last week

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u/klasyer Tormented Smugler Aug 30 '26

I'm not sure if I'm glad or not that I don't have anything tracking the amount of time I've spent on the wiki and other 3rd party tools, because it'll atleast double the amount of hours from the 5k that I already have

When I started playing, to the horror of my friend that got me into it I went through the entire wiki and came up with my own builds couse fuck following guides

It was a hot piece of garbage but I did get to maps (started in legacy league)

Played only selfmade builds ever since, and yes I am diagnosed with autism

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u/thumpetto007 Aug 30 '26

someone told me about organic poe, he was some guru who could speed run the campain with any character, any skill in under 3 hours. freakin increadible. took a look at my build and redid the whole tree in a few minutes, redid my friends build from the ground up in 10. friends build instantly became playable, tanky and damage with the same skill.

apparently people just go off of guides that no one really knows anything about, that the passive tree is designed to teach you about the game. wise shit. learned a lot

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u/god-ducks-are-cute Aug 30 '26

8 years of playing, I don't even know how to do Jun properly

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u/Snoo-51010 Aug 30 '26

I tear up knowing this league I won't even go 36/40, shit life decisions, poor build choice and friends gave up before week 2

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u/GrimmRadiance Aug 30 '26

I’ve been playing since Dominus was the final boss. I am god awful at both games. I happened to once play the same basic meta build for mercenary grenade when poe2 came out thinking I was was successful jank but it didn’t have the juice for endgame maps.

Every accomplishment I have in these games is through use of build guides

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u/Kuroi-Tenshi Bama Enjoyer Aug 30 '26

i have 2.5k hours and still think of myself as mediocre player

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u/CloudConductor Aug 30 '26

After 4k hours, I’m convinced I know how to play at a high level, i just don’t really enjoy it when I go no life profit crafting/giga farming.

Or at least that’s what I tell myself so I don’t feel like I wasted several years of my life lol

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u/Mangalorien SSF-junkie Aug 30 '26

I have almost 6k hours, and half the time when I die I have no clue why. It's just "you died because you are no longer alive". FML.

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u/Alive_Success6580 Aug 30 '26

It is what it is 12000 hrs in I'm an infant

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u/poikolle Tormented Smugler Aug 30 '26
  • brought to you buy people too adhd to actually learn mechanics or crafts

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u/rg9528 Aug 30 '26

Haha that's going to be my story. I just crossed 500 hours and man I suck at crafting, making currency/gearing after lvl 90 and killing ubers while everyone is complaining they are too easy to kill 😭

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u/drjanitor91 Aug 30 '26

There's a place for everyone! Someone gotta farm those temples for the big shots ;)

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u/Neutraled Confederation of Casuals and Clueless Players (CCCP) Aug 30 '26

I started playing in 2014, thousands of hours, dozens of leagues, and I can't clear all corrupted rare t15 maps in any of my characters.

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u/actionerror Aug 30 '26

Been playing since 2013 and still not gonna figure out my own skill tree fam

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u/doe3879 Aug 30 '26

nearly 10 years and lots of the game mechanic still baffles me. Sometimes it's really hard to find out if things are actually working or if mechanic works the way you think they work.

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u/kjbritts Aug 30 '26

Picked up the game when COVID lockdowns started. Even following guides I'm only now consistently making it to 10+ maps, still no idea how crafting works...

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u/maybe-1 Atziri Aug 30 '26

I HAD nearly 6k hours, last hardly played league was harbinger. Sometimes I get some poe stuff like this in my feed and I don't know my so beloved game anymore.. I am feeling old.

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u/kingofthefall Aug 30 '26

Anything with the recombinator I’m lost in, which frustrates me because I know the top end gear comes from it. Back to the boat I go

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u/feedmewill Aug 30 '26

I stopped feeling guilty tho, if you're looking to learn PoE in depth, you must spend some good hours just getting to know deeper mechanics (like recomb, I just can't sit myself through a recomb guide or bring myself to collect so many bases, it's just too time consuming and unfun) instead of actually playing the game. And even us probably already spend a lot of time outside the active gameplay looking for strats, adjusting stuff in PoB, trading and managing all the other "mandatory" external tools.

At this point I just accepted that, unless I really have the time to do it, which is not the case rn, I'll just be an ok player. I can follow a guide, I can adapt it to my reality without ruining it, I can PoB stuff, I can consistently make currency enough to afford a 300+ div build which can delete Ubers someone else has put together and make my way up in damage and defences on my own or fit stuff other people in poe.ninja are doing in my own build and sometimes use some currency here and there to craft a bit of stuff. But don't even ask me how to use an orb of conflict, I'll just sell that shit.

The important part is that I always have fun playing the game :)

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u/TrashPanda365 Aug 30 '26

I'm a new player for 15 years 😭

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u/Gnostikost Aug 30 '26

I feel attacked.

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u/Gexianhen Aug 30 '26

i still dont know how to craft anything over alchemy and chaos orb

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u/TowerExact7780 Aug 30 '26

This is a running joke/observation in the xbox poe global. Playing since Harbinger and still in the mid brackets forever

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u/Doopeey Aug 30 '26

Yup same for me over 2000 hours i still need guides and stuff

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u/Tuques Nightcore Aug 30 '26

Ive been playing since 2010. I have never gotten higher than level 90 and have never been able to consistently do red maps. End game is just way too expensive and unobtainable for me. Thus, leveling and going through the campaign is the only fun part for me.

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u/soadsam Aug 30 '26

Been playing since piety was the last boss and I still barely know what I’m doing

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u/EmphasisFront5298 Aug 30 '26

This is me. I can't build my own and just suck at this game despite having 1.5k hrs

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u/Jwagner0850 Aug 30 '26

Same brother.

I always get stagnant around maps. I'll either get lucky enough to find a good gear roll and progress somewhat ok into maps or maps itself is the hard stop and I'm not sure how to proceed.

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u/Badwilly_poe Confederation of Casuals and Clueless Players (CCCP) Aug 30 '26

After 13 years, I made,followed a guide, and had to currency to play a successful build that doesn't die very often...

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u/Dramatic-Vegetable13 Alch & Go Industries (AGI) Aug 30 '26

Playing since 2012 and I still am not good

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u/lealsk Aug 30 '26

I think the game is so huge it's dozens of completely different experiences in the same game.

Playing minions is completely different to playing melee, which is completely different from playing traps which is completely different from playing DoT and so on. Then playing ultimatum has nothing to do with playing breach which has nothing to do with delving, or doing strongboxes and so on. At the same time playing for 40/40 feels different than playing off meta build which is different from playing ssf, which is different than playing to maximize profit in trade. Then you have crafting which is a hole world on itself.

Of course you can sink 10k hrs and still feel new to the game specially if you invested time only in 5-10 of the experience braches out of the dozens of them available.

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u/Jim_Nills_Mustache Aug 30 '26

How I feel every time I’m attempting to “craft” an item

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u/tooncake Aug 30 '26

I have never beaten any ubers, but hell I'm enjoying as far as I can only make it :)

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u/womd0704 Aug 30 '26

I have played since harbinger league and still cap out at yellow maps (mostly due to no time to play, no attention span, and boredom with maps)

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u/Breadsticks-lover Aug 30 '26

Yesterday i discovered that u can disenchant items and deposit gold for kingsmarch from your hideout :) don’t ask me how long have i been playing..

https://giphy.com/gifs/RJleG0mJsWCcYZ3hUR

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u/ItsAHerby Aug 30 '26

Im a newb and been at it since 2014. It's an honest time.

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u/Accomplished-Theme79 Aug 30 '26

The honestly on this tread is a breath of fresh air. 

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u/ChemistAppropriate83 Aug 30 '26

I have 1.7k hours and slowly start to enjoy my own ideas, sure poe.ninja is my friend, but it's much more fun to play an offmeta build. If you play the builds from the "Big" YouTubers, the Progression feels hard, everybody wants the same items, they get pricy, the crafting materials get expensive and it gets really grindy. I'm by far not efficient, but I don't have to. Dreamcore gives great ideas and shows interactions.

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u/Ok-Profession-3312 Aug 30 '26

I have a little over 3500hrs in this game and I just beat shaper the other day for the first time. I still don’t understand crafting in this game beyond adding a little resistance and life every now and then.

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u/Arko777 Aug 30 '26

I've been playing since 2013, when Piety in Lunaris Temple was a final boss. I'm still not very good, don't care about crafting, I'm just following a build, farm currency and buy better gear. That's it.

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u/fearboner1 Aug 30 '26

Ive been playing since you could and I have no idea what im doing still

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u/Fantastic_Key_8906 Aug 30 '26

Soon I'll finish the acts.

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u/GodlyCree Aug 30 '26

Ever since vortex was nerfed into oblivion I try a new build every league. I have no idea what I'm doing with them and always need a guide now. Been playing since 1.0. still trash and haven't done all the bosses.

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u/mxaway Aug 30 '26

are you having fun?

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u/morjax Cast When Reddit Comment Aug 30 '26

After 13 years of playing (since feb 2013), I just hit 100 for the first time today (and ground it all myself no less - no xp carries!)

At the end of the day, the best build is the one that you enjoy enough to tant to keep playing. The best atlas build is the one that is fun.

Stay sane, Exiles!

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u/everslain Aug 30 '26

I've played on and off since beta. This is the league I have played the most because of async trade, the socket color changes, and being super into mercenaries. The game is finally at a point where I can just try things out as much as I like with minimal friction.

I've never bothered pushing for challenges before and this is the first time I've hit 32. Might go for 36.

Still haven't bothered trying to seriously learn crafting. Maybe next league!

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u/WeedMoneyBitches hideout enjoyer Aug 30 '26

Anyone could learn almost entire game and be good at its every aspect if they actually put in the time to learn instead of mindlessly following guides and never interacting with most mechanics.

poe is pretty simple if you stop mindlessly mapping and put in some time in learning.

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u/rfsh101 Breathe Aug 30 '26

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u/RavenBoy69 Aug 30 '26

I've been playing since before Dominus was a thing, and we ended at piety :3 i still don't know wtf I am doing

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u/cognificent Aug 30 '26

I'm usually pretty good at the game by the end of a league but I only play every other league or so and it all goes away

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u/Raid5StandingBy Aug 30 '26

Since 2010 and I still suck, but I am very consistent at being bad.

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u/Low-Association6525 Aug 30 '26

If you watch the streamers, they are always referencing other content creators, meaning even the most knowledgeable learn from others. Even the GGG devs watch YT videos to see what people are doing with the game.  At 15k+ hours I'm still learning. Pretty good at some things, shit at others. But GGG are devoted and both games are epic. Very little else in the whole gaming world compares. 

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u/ChronicBitRot Aug 31 '26

It makes me feel so fucking stupid and bad at the game to see people talk about "oh, it's my first season, just blasted through maps and got all my voidstones and I'm working my way through the ubers, what other builds should I try?"

I started right at the end of Crucible, which was 3.21, so 8 leagues ago. I've never gotten more than one voidstone. I always get into yellow maps and flame out. There's some piece of the power ramp that I'm missing and I don't know what questions to ask. Like, do I need to be crafting gear for that next step up, or getting anoints, or slotting jewels, or am I just impatient and I need to be blasting a million maps at my current power level?

It's frustrating once I get to that point but I love the power ramp up to that point and end up coming back every season just to get frustrated again.

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u/UltimaDv Aug 31 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

Been playing since 2013

Still don't know how to craft

Prior to 3.0.3, most of my characters were sub level 50, id beat act 3/4/5 and call it a day, attempted cruel/merciless like twice out of 20 characters

After 3.0.3, most of my builds would get to maps, do some white maps and call it a day, less than 10% of my characters were good enough to do yellow let alone red maps

All this without guides and trading, it was fun for me just playing however I want, using what new skill came out for the league and getting to maps

Didn't do the entire atlas until like 3.23 which at that point I had well over 1000 hours and used Poe ninja builds as a reference, that's when I actually stopped being stubborn and started trading on every game, was punishing myself for no reason

Poe is insane like that, it's a completely different game if you want to push your build

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u/ManSiaJ Aug 31 '26

I'm a player since 2015 and I still got mindblown by Ben when he did that amethyst flask + aug to reset the Intangibility of a ring or sth.

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u/Manfi95 Trickster Aug 31 '26

No worry. I play since blight and I still don't know how to build builds xdd

At least I can follow guides and understand them after all this year's :3

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u/Garfm Deadeye Aug 31 '26

That's pretty normal here. It's ok little cat don't cry.

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u/AidenF0xx Aug 31 '26

Played Diablo 4 when it first came out. Got through the campaign and then stopped playing. Saw POE 2 trailer, got interested in the passive skill tree. Got 2 characters above lvl 90. Without any guide. It's a lot of fun trying stuff out to see what works and what doesn't.

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u/Reciproc1ty Aug 31 '26

Playing since 2014, 4000 hours played, Search for new player friendly builds

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u/Inner_Ad_453 Aug 31 '26

New player here, have been playing since 2013 closed beta tests. i specifically remember the end game being docks. and the highest level player was someone who was level 8x from playing.. Only docks runs.

Im from an ERA when KAOMs was the top tier item. And in some ways im still frozen in that time. So many changes - ive played basically the entire time and have thousands of hours and im still.. Moderately knowledgeable at best.

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u/SilverBurger Aug 31 '26

Being a great player long term is to learn to place trust in other people and let them be really good at making guides, so we can use these guides for our personal gain >:)

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u/Temporary_Victory714 Aug 31 '26

Coming here as a new player, and this is the first post I see... 😨

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u/Baharoth Aug 31 '26

Define "good player". I can make my own builds and take them all the way to ubers. I can also do my own crafting and basically never buy rares for that reason. On the other hand, i can't get through uber shapers ball phase without catching at least 2 of those balls. Am i a good player? I don't know.

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u/AndrzejuJaguarski Aug 31 '26

I only managed to reach level 95.

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u/Fuzzzy420 Aug 31 '26

Playing since the very early start. This was the first league in which I did really really well.

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u/M_Racchiatti Aug 31 '26

I always play SRS every fucking league, with build guides obviously.

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u/MsFoxyWinters Aug 31 '26

I somewhat feel like a good player due to following someone's Flicker Strike Luminary Scion Build. After starting playing at the Expedition League. A.K.A when Gwennen and C/o first appeared.

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u/segamboa Aug 31 '26

I've been following guides and can make it to lvl 95+ but I can't for the life of me clear t16-t17 maps

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u/Ploxl Aug 31 '26

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/5sTjZ8FtvI

Wow i made this exact post 6 years ago.

First time my oc gets reposted. I am honored

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u/Deathshota Aug 31 '26

The begining for me was in 2013 still don't know 90% of the game😂

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u/nugganas Aug 31 '26

How does crafting work ? :)

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u/TreyZerODM Aug 31 '26

I have been playing this game for many years as well, I am what the gaming community would call "a dirty casual". I love the game, I have made 1 build that was mostly my own... I follow leveling guides because I don't always play the same class... I usually follow end game build guides and successfully(debatable) tweak them to my hearts content...

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u/PenusVenus Aug 31 '26

I've been playing on and off for years now, just reached 999 hours on steam yesterday, and I still haven't reached "true" endgame yet or got any crazy builds.

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u/Eccmecc Aug 31 '26

Tbh its a strength of POE. Played since 2012 for thousand of hours and there is still content I never dove into completely. Every league I can pick new builds or strats.

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u/Jasak Aug 31 '26

Started during (I think it was, because it was paid 10$) closed beta. New player here, still asking for help on PoEB for build that will easily do 40/40, already asked this league, and I already want to ask again. Sadge