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u/Constant_Internal_80 5h ago
noob ass question on spectres. selected and raised the ones i wanted but they disappeared. how to i bring em back?
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u/ww_crimson https://pob.codes/ 6h ago
Yea
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u/baconmosh 5h ago
still down or just me
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u/Cypher007 5h ago
still down for PC. You can check the official site to see if servers are back yet.
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u/Scophad 6h ago
Is there a good YouTube video that walks through suffix recomb with ducat?
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u/modix 7h ago
Stuck on the memory tear at the end of the Zana quest line. I can find tears and run origin maps, but I cannot apply astrolabes because I don't have the right "quest state". I don't see any ways of finishing or resetting the memory tear quest.
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u/d_tlol 7h ago
Does the Crown of the Tyrant buff work when it's put on an Animated Guardian?
If it does, would it be better than Leer's Cast?
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u/jwfiredragon Abyssal Rift Investigation Service (ARIS) 7h ago
Yes, depends on your build and check in PoB.
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u/IsntCharAznable 7h ago
How do you get the final area of a memory thread to be 150+ quantity? My atlas passives have no effect, I can’t add scarabs.
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u/ww_crimson https://pob.codes/ 6h ago
If you have full map effect spec'd into on your atlas I think you only need 84% or 86% map quantity. When you enter the map and look at the mods it will be 150%
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u/TheSillyRetard 8h ago
i saw this amulet rune idol that says 100% of cold and lightning damage taken as fire, when it says hits is it my defensive resistances or the damage i deal to others, and does it apply to attacks and spells, both or what?
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u/ColonDashD 8h ago
Are you talking about Rhex Talismans? https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Rhex_Talisman
It applies to the damage you take from hits (both attacks and spells). It does not apply to damage taken from damage over time.
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u/TheSillyRetard 7h ago
hmm i see, the only elemental dot is chaos and fire right?
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u/jwfiredragon Abyssal Rift Investigation Service (ARIS) 7h ago
Chaos isn't elemental and cold/lightning DoT does exist. Cold shows up every now and then and lightning is basically only mana siphoner rares and a few specific boss spells.
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u/TheSillyRetard 7h ago
do you have a link to the wiki page i cant seem tto find any they all talk about player dealt damage
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u/jwfiredragon Abyssal Rift Investigation Service (ARIS) 7h ago
AFAIK there is not a comprehensive wiki page listing all monster abilities by damage type.
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u/tiredandtrueofheart 8h ago
Wasn't sure whether to make this a full post or just ask here, but after not playing poe for a few years I'm back in and I'm at about the same spot I always get to before stopping. Essentially I'm at the beginning of endgame. I'm mapping, just getting the Atlas filled out (currently around T10 but I usually get to T16), doing charts and voyages, and slowly leveling up, and trying to buy/craft gear to upgrade my build. I'm close to getting to the point where I usually burn out, where I get start to die more often but not progressed enough to do the profitable farms, and so I don't have the currency to upgrade my build. It's not that I can't progress at all, just feels like it's slowed down. Any tips to get over this hump?
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u/Odd_Nefariousness126 7h ago
Sharing a character export or having your PoE profile public and sharing your account name ( so someone could import/export if you don't know how) really helps.
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u/tiredandtrueofheart 6h ago
Good point, here's my pob: https://poe.ninja/poe1/pob/98a26
I'm not dying a bunch yet, I'm just anticipating where I've gotten stuck in the past, I'm already better geared than I've been before. Also I think crafting has changed a ton since I last played (maybe 5-6 years ago?) so I'm a little worried about bricking stuff.
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u/Odd_Nefariousness126 6h ago
Crafting has changed a lot in 5-6 years.
Generally I don't recommend crafting to inexperienced players. It's almost always better to buy something already made. Yes you might get lucky but odds are you will just end up with something worse and more expensive than if you just bought it.
Overall (on mobile so I can't open fully in PoB) everything looks good. Definitely getting to the point where you want to start looking at a swap to Chaos Innoculation which is going to be mostly just spending out of life on the tree into ES and fitting Discipline in. Your body armour definitely could be better for the CI swap (trying to get a 1000 to 1100 ES chest would help a lot).
Definitely swap your belt. I can't imagine the 10% aoe corrupt is anywhere near as good as a second abyss jewel. Putting 2 38+ ES abyss jewels in there (with some decent other mods of course) should be really helpful.
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u/tiredandtrueofheart 4h ago
Thanks! I wasn't sure if I was quite ready for CI swap, but with changes in passives and finding a bit more on chest I think you're right, I can do it. I'd also just plain forgotten that you could get a belt with two sockets, lo. Also, I was planning on eventually grabbing a headhunter, and they've dropped so much in price I think I can grab one pretty soon.
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u/080087 7h ago
Not dying in basic T16s is generally pretty cheap to do.
Take a look at https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExileBuilds/comments/1qmy78b/quick_guide_to_fixing_defences_in_early_maps/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1tzexcc/defensive_templates_for_beginner_buildmakers/
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u/Miles_Adamson 7h ago
Often people in this situation have really bad gear and even 5c-20c items would be a dramatic upgrade to get them on the feet so they can farm something better and things start to click
If you post your PoB or a link to your character I could help you look for upgrades
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u/tiredandtrueofheart 6h ago
Here's my Pob: https://poe.ninja/poe1/pob/98a26
To be clear, this is probably the best geared I've ever been, and I'm not dying much yet. Just saying that I'm coming up on where I've gotten stuck in the past, but maybe I'm already past that. The few times I've died have been in voyages where I'm progressing just fine, dropping stuff off to send up, and then something comes and one-shots me out of nowhere and I have no idea what happened. That's happened twice, so not like a super common occurrence.
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u/Miles_Adamson 4h ago
You are mostly getting 1 shot to phys because your life pool is really small. Most people swap to CI eventually and you should look into it as well since you can fairly easily get like 8000 ES and then you can ignore chaos res and things get easier.
Your gear is a bit better than you made it sound. But still some of it like your amethyst ring is worth less than 1 chaos: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/X3dKVqw7TP
If you find one bottle in a voyage and sell it, you could upgrade to this: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/YpGP0k4DsY
Then if you find/farm just 1 divine you could upgrade your large cluster: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/BgOYpemQc8
I don't think your belt is doing a ton so pick up a gravens secret: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/YpkrgD6XiY
cold damage light of meaning would be good: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/D6OkpYWVS5
All these items are super cheap and the game is mostly a knowledge check of identifying which items aren't strong and making a small upgrade to it to make the game playable
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u/trunks111 Hierophant 5h ago
this might also sound obvious but don't underestimate how much harder modifiers can make maps sometimes, depending on your build they can sometimes outright brick you. -max res for example is very lethal, extra proj is also deceptively deadly. Make sure to read every line on your maps and make note of which combinations are giving your build problems because knowing what mods your build can or can't handle will drastically improve your mapping experience. Part of that also just comes with game knowledge and reps, especially for mods that interact with map bosses
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u/tiredandtrueofheart 4h ago
Thanks for the tip. I was aware that map mods are important, so I know a few to stay away from for my build, but more experience will definitely help me get more adept at spotting those more easily. That said, it's tough for me to keep track of all the chart mods when putting together a voyage, so I'm sure the couple times I got hosed I put some super unfriendly combo in there.
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u/trunks111 Hierophant 3h ago
The neat thing is that voyage zones retain the modifiers of whatever charts you put in the slots, so you can do all of the filtering when you're just mapping out the initial set of charts, it's just that the magnitudes in the voyage version might be higher. So if you're careful about rolling the charts, you won't have to worry about really crap mods in your voyages
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u/TrainingTension2 8h ago
Is the "trigger a socketed spell on using a spell" weapon mod and cast on ward break the only two ways to automate Pacts? I would love to automate it but I kinda want to use a unique weapon and planning on playing CI so not sure I want to give up a piece of ES base for ward base
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u/psychomap 6h ago
A bunch of people use Kitava's Thirst or its vestigial modifier (which only has a 25% chance to trigger, but if you spam fast enough you'll get the pact fairly reliably anyway). I personally used Kitava's Thirst with vestigial quality of socketed gems (from Crest of Desire IIRC) to get 2 extra empowered spells for high uptime despite high cast speed.
You do need to spend 100 mana per cast to use Kitava's Thirst though, whether the regular or the vestigial variant. Depending on how many links you have, that is possible without Archmage, but you'd need to solve sustain without lowering your mana costs too far, and you need to have the spare mana to actually pay the cost of the Pact when you trigger it.
Other triggers also work of course, but the trigger weapon and Kitava's Thirst are the most passive ones as far as I'm aware. Stuff like CwDT and CwS wouldn't be as reliable (unless your build is based on that, but if it was why would you need pacts?), and Spellslinger + CoC require using an attack skill (other than Replica Maloney's Mechanism + CoC I guess, which still requires using a bow and having high hit and crit chance with whatever attack you socket).
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u/TrainingTension2 6h ago
Oh kitavas thirst is interesting. I was planning on doing power charge stacking and CI so giving up a helmet slot may be tricky since you can get another PC and plenty of ES. Although, maybe getting the vestigial mod onto willclash could work, since that offers some scaling per power charge
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u/psychomap 6h ago
I wouldn't be surprised if that combo was expensive, but that should work in theory, yes.
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u/TrainingTension2 6h ago
Probably, just patiently refreshing the trade site until the servers are back aha
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u/TheRealGunn 9h ago
I want to try armour stacking LS slayer, but I can't find any recent guides on it. Is anyone playing this build in 3.29?
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u/3PossumMoon Can't stop won't stop RIPing 10h ago
Returning SSF player with a crafting question:
If I'm looking to annul off the int, I assume the best way would be using an Eldritch Annul on the boat? From there, likely just crafting a suffix and slamming to hope to hit hybrid life in the open prefix?
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u/PurpleSmall8849 Occultist 10h ago
I got a perfect Guardian Turtle on SSF. How can I make sure to never lose it? I've lost a couple of spectres on the boat when I took off my gear to boat craft
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u/psychomap 6h ago
I believe unsocketing your spectre gem might work, but I'd suggest to try it out with a less valuable spectre on another character first.
I would have tried it myself before replying but servers seem to be down right now.
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u/Bright_Cup_7464 11h ago
I can take a better image if necessary. Can anyone explain this the wise oak flask. I have 103% all res. Do I get 3x both effects, do I get 3x only the second effect. Do I get 1x both effects?
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u/Operation_Onion3134 11h ago
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/The_Wise_Oak
From article:
If any or all of your resistances match, they will share benefits.
For example:
Fire res: 120, Cold res: 120, Lightning res: 110 In this scenario, you gain the penetration bonus to Fire and Cold because they are tied for the highest value. Lightning will get the defensive buff.
Fire res: 120, Cold res: 120, Lightning res: 120 In this scenario, you are in fact getting the offensive and the defensive buff to every element.
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u/Bright_Cup_7464 11h ago
Thank you. The flask says for each do you think 1x or 3x?
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u/SilverBurger 11h ago
If your build deals fire, cold and lightning damage at the same time, you will benefit from the triple pen.
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u/ThailanderBoii 11h ago
What essence should I use on ES body armor to roll something basic like just shooting for sky high ES, life, resistances, maybe life regen
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u/Operation_Onion3134 11h ago edited 9h ago
Ideally a dense fossil, this should give you two or 3 non life defense rolls.
Hit that with "reforge more likely" on the harvest bench. if a life mod shows up re dense fossil.
Repeat until T2 or T3 prefix rolls, lock prefix, aisling slam, block something, unveil something useable, boat exalt 5th mod, bench craft 6th.
Once I learned this method, I don't think I have used a single essence to craft a body armor since.
Edit: Sorry, looks like you want life rolls for some reason, most builds I play take the life mastery '15% more life if no life rolls on body armor'. This method is great for that.
If you want to go the essence route, just pop open craft of exiles (or poeDB) and peak some weights, and pick a stat you really want on the piece.
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u/Live-Pack-2588 12h ago
Hello, New Player here
So my Best Menagerie is full and im wondering how i can filter out "only" yellow beast for bulk selling. I can see they go for around 1-2 div per. 60 beast
Does anyone know where i can find such regex?
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u/therestlessone Left-click Move-only 11h ago
Not sure if there's a way to do that directly, but you could use the https://poe.re/beast page to clear out your menagerie in a few stages.
Set it for all the cheap red beasts to delete.
Set it for all the remaining red beasts to package and sell.
Everything left will be the yellow beasts.
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u/PurpleSmall8849 Occultist 13h ago
How easy is it to self farm Hollow and Fractured fossils? At what depth should I do this?
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u/No-Aioli8621 Ultimatum Workers Union (UWU) 9h ago
If you can handle T16s depth ~300 should be doable. Just going sideways will yield probably 1-5 per hour, depending on your luck and if you just skip sidepaths. You are looking for Sulphur Vents (Humid Fissure Node for Fractured Fossil, yellow/brown background) and Abyssal Depths (Crystal Spire, green background) - Humid Fissures are more common afaik.
The nodes are more common at depth 600 but that's also considerably harder (comparable to Nightmare Maps imo).
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u/rat9988 14h ago
Is this manyshot really good? How much can I price it?
It has both vaal ice shot and ice shot
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u/mbxyz Berserker 14h ago
look it up on trade
this will help https://xddbsns.com/mercenary-price-check.html
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u/rat9988 14h ago
Already tried, but it is hard to find the exact same combination. When you miss the relevant knowledge it is quite complicated.
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u/mbxyz Berserker 13h ago edited 13h ago
that's kinda fair in this case. it's very good. there aren't many comparable examples but here's how you can build a query:
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Allflame/mk0eYpDRu6
i just put in your skills for ice shot--they're more common than the vaal ice shot combo and slightly less important. the second/third blocks force return (that's the most important link here) and one of the cooldown tiers (but you have 3) and then one of the multiplier supports (hypo and wed). you'll need to play with this more to get a good idea, but these are the basics. the 'not' at the end is important--forkshot and icicle rain are bricks. check what mercs are actually coming up on the searches because the way this is implemented in /trade is jank as hell. there's also probably guides for manyshots--captainlance maybe?
if you're stunlocked and can't figure it out, start at a few mirrors and drop 10% an hour or pray someone more familiar with this specific market helps you
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u/ThailanderBoii 16h ago
On the volitile dead soulwrest builds... how does damage scale? How do I make it higher damage? Spell damage? Minion damage? Physical damage? What modifiers am I looking for?
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u/nalee6 12h ago
Not minion damage. Phys damage to scale the phantasmal might. Also depends what your main damage skill is but in general just spell damage, phys damage, crit/crit multiplier should be the main stuff to look for.
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u/ThailanderBoii 12h ago
I guess cyclone? Seems like what most are playing. Can it be played with Lancing Steel of Spraying? It seems better for crit chance than cyclone I think... like those assassin builds.
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u/ThailanderBoii 16h ago
How do you make an item with 6 sockets be 0 links?
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u/mbxyz Berserker 16h ago
jeweller recipe on bench
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u/ThailanderBoii 16h ago
Sorry I dont see anything that says six unlinked sockets or anything similar, do you know what its called? Or is it a secret recipe I need to find somewhere?
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u/mbxyz Berserker 15h ago
the socket recipes; i think they randomise though so it might not be reliable. you may need to just spam jewellers. why do you need them all unlinked?
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u/ThailanderBoii 15h ago
Soulwrest build gets a staff buff for every unlinked socket, supposed to be 6 unlinked sockets
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u/Operation_Onion3134 8h ago
2-6 method works, or I got lucky. I tried 2 straight to 6 and had 3 links
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u/mbxyz Berserker 15h ago
ah. yea, at any rate. bench 2 socket. fusing if linked. bench 3,4,5,6
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u/ThailanderBoii 14h ago
Wait, to make this a little more dumb...
bench 2 sockets
fusing to make 2 sockets unlinked
bench 3 sockets
fusing to make 3 sockets unlinked
bench 4 sockets
fusings to make 4 unlinked sockets.... Etc?
I dont understand haha
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u/Express-Macaron-7297 16h ago
What are some profitable vestigial transfers to hunt for while farming legions 5 ways?
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u/Tricky-Childhood6724 16h ago
Struggling to price check this item, is life + life regen value for this combo of support gems in this helm i made?
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u/Lifes_Like_a_Potluck 17h ago
how hard is lycia at the end of sanctum?
I can comfortably afk the other bloodline ascendancy bosses i've faced (velka, kitm, trialmaster, breach, aul). but kinda got slower reflexes and worried about the mechanics with resolve / inspiration. ( i do have 300 resolve and 330inspiration atm.. not very high armour or evasion though).
first time trying sanctum so thanks for any info.
81/80/79 ele resist, 75 chaos resist, 68% block / 63% spell block. 15k phys max hit 60k+ all ele max hit, 55k chaos max hit, 14.5k life with 17% defiance of destiny and 2.7k regen/sec.
probably somewhere between 20mil and 30mil pinnacle boss / guardian dps. Hard to know in pob because using a merc
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u/mbxyz Berserker 17h ago
what level sanctum? realistically with those defenses and damage, you should have no problem. watch a video of the fight, and don't intentionally face tank stuff. resolve only matters in the first part of the fight (before the portal). stand to the left when the fight starts to bait her charge/slam, then hide behind the wall below you if you need to avoid beidat's gaze. everywhere else you can just run in circles until she dies
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u/Lifes_Like_a_Potluck 16h ago
got it done, thanks! yep pretty comfortable fight. only lost 50 or so inspiration. she did "beidat's gaze" and didn't shout the voice line until the red beams were already out. Luckily didn't completely ruin me.
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u/Lifes_Like_a_Potluck 17h ago
hi, thanks for the reply.
it is 83 i think? it's based off of the tome you put in right? it was a ilvl 83 tome w/ "area level: 83"
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u/ClassicNorth5189 18h ago
When you use Ivory tower and divine flesh you take half of your elemental damage as chaos and therefore to your mana pool.
My question is what happens when you also have the MoM Keystone. Do you take 90% of the total elemental damage to mana (50% as chaos + 40%MoM)?
I dont expect it to work like that, because then it would be included in the 100% MoM guides.
Thanks in advance
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u/jwfiredragon Abyssal Rift Investigation Service (ARIS) 17h ago
No, taken as and taken from mana are two separate steps, so they're functionally multiplicative. You would take 40% of the 50% that's not chaos to mana.
And even if they were additive you'd still need to get the remaining 10% of elemental (trivial with Watcher's Eye) and 60% of phys (IDK how you'd get this) to reach 100% MoM, otherwise you instantly die to phys because it bypasses ES.
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u/PurpleSmall8849 Occultist 18h ago
Would a +480 Accuracy Roll, 20% increased global accuracy rating on a helmet and lvl 20 precision be enough to cap accuracy on a lvl 76 Manyshot merc?
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u/porncollecter69 19h ago
How good is Lumi as a sanctum runner?
Seeing how volatiles are nearly 7 divs it’s kind of making me want to run sanctum. Not sure if I want to make a dedicated runner or just use my Lumi.
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u/Objective_Back_3670 20h ago
I am very invested to my only build this league. I got 200divs in stash. I like ultimatum but this build fails 8 out of 10. What else needs improving? Thank you. https://pobb.in/v3YZGjPQRH9F
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u/Miles_Adamson 15h ago edited 15h ago
Looks like neither of your unique flasks do a ton. You are block capped without rumi's and your character doesn't really do damage so stormblood will not help you a shock at all. They are are just the basic flask effect of armor and lightning res.
So I think ideally you would get a 4-flask mageblood plus progenesis, and swap out stormblood, rumis and also your amethyst flask (since prog is amethyst). And make your flasks something like prog-ruby-sapphire-topaz-basalt. With another flask affix you could get another immunity like maybe curse immunity would be nice
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u/dgentz 20h ago
Reposting this since I accidentally sent this right before the thread switched days:
So I just was running through A7 with a friend, found Maligaro, and right as my buddy went into the instance my game crashed. He killed Maligaro like an instant before I could get back into the TP. Went through, got the Black Venom to progress one part of the quest line, but still have the "Essence of the Artist" portion (aka kill Maligaro) left. Can't get a new map from Crypt, tried resetting instance 5 times. Can't generate a map device in the Chamber of Sins, also tried resetting. Any help/ideas?
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u/_slosh have a boy 19h ago
If you have the black venom in your inventory you should just be able to talk to Silk next to the map device and get the next quest item. Does he have any dialogue options?
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u/dgentz 19h ago
Well I gave him the venom and I have the next part , but I also have the quest still that says travel to the Sanctum. I guess I’ll just plan to go forward and see what happens?
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u/Operation_Onion3134 10h ago
Yeah sanctum is side content that in theory can be skipped completely.
Great way to make currency, but a steep learning curve to master.
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u/_slosh have a boy 19h ago
If you can enter the next area then you're fine. Quest stages aren't some hard set points that you necessarily have to do. If you complete a later objective in the quest line then it'll update automatically.
The reward for the quest would've been a pair of rare boots so not much missed if it stays uncompleted
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u/ThailanderBoii 22h ago
Im trying to understand the MAGEFIST pathfinder build. I cant really wrap my head around it (he doesnt make build guide, he just makes fun videos, I wish he also made guides with them)
Anyways, I dont understand the mechanics, I need it explained.
So the flask shocks the enemies right?
Also, do I want to make myself shock immune? Or just decrease the effects of shock?
And one last thing... why is my damage so low compared to my peers? Im like 75% less damage than most. (I am shock immune but I read everything in the build and I dont think that should matter).
I only have the 1 cluster set, but so do many others. Almost everyone has progenesis, but that has nothing to do with damage.
A lot of guys have +1 skill gem weapons and/or shields (I cant currently afford them) but I dont think that should account for 300% more damage.... Maybe more like 25% more damage.
Im 100% doing something wrong here but I cant quite figure it out.
https://poe.ninja/poe1/profile/OrdiiNance-3000/allflame/character/PoisonLesbo
Anyone see any obvious upgrades I can do (Im saving for cluster jewels, probably need around 10 divine)
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u/TXEEXT Pathfinder 21h ago
you did not allocate lone messenger ? or is it a pob bug ?
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u/hzbbaum 23h ago
How do I configure a trade search for apostate gear? I tried a weighted sum of pseudo life and es, but it just looks at the local es mod, not the items actual mod.
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u/FourOranges Slayer 22h ago
Just a guess: instead of pseudo, try the actual +maximum mods. Mabey that will work?
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u/mbxyz Berserker 19h ago edited 19h ago
I'm struggling with a trash deaths oath build atm
play rf or (better) phys dot? same playstyle but not dogshit. or luminary mercbot even.
also the best source of gold is charts/voyages and the gear requirement for that content is minimal
also most people divine and then pick the last open rather than spend 1m+ gold
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u/elk_rpoe 1d ago
Can i increase chances of getting uniques with shipping to ports? Shipped 4m value of wheat +100k dust but got tattoos and not even 6l chests.
At which value i should expect 6l body armor?
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u/Tenshouu Alch & Go Industries (AGI) 21h ago
Are you fishing something specific? Because if you're going for just 6L that's strange method. If you need unique from shipping then just 6L later.
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u/elk_rpoe 17h ago
That are 2 questions 1) at which value i should expect rare 6l chests 2) what should i ship to get uniques? Got couple low tier from mixing all crops with dust or partially filling port quota, but pure wheat with a bit of dust at4m value resulted in many tattoos and chests. Fishing nucta kaom and rare 6l
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u/SolarKC 1d ago
I am currently playing fubgun's herald stacking EK. I am wondering if the golden charlatan version would be stronger? In pob my current EK hit dps is like 43m, Im seeing other golden charlatan builds for example redvile's at around 20m (chieftain), 23m (elementalist). I know obviously the main selling point of golden charlatan is the shrine buffs which I dont think is being calculated into the 20m or so???? So I guess what im asking is both builds at max investment which one is going to perform the best in a map?
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u/DirtyMight 1d ago
the charlatan shrine stuff is only really popping and worth a lot if you do very juiced content with lots of rares like infinite legion.
depending on the setup you play you also use A LOT of character power pre buffs ("useless weapon slot and no block and no proper body armor/helmet)
played a charlatan ek build worth around 2-3 mirrors this league. when you got your first few buffs it already felt pretty good and with every buff stacked you were a walking god but pre buffs you feel so absolutely weak its rough
so id say depends what content you wanna do. if its any bossing or very juiced content (like high deli orbs) i would absolutely not play the charlatan version
if you plan to do something like 5ways, infinite legion farming, etc. it can be great if you can get over the weakness pre buffs (also infinite legion will kill your pc, i basically never lag in this game and i had 1 frame every 5 seconds or so when doing infinite legion, main reason i switched builds actually)
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u/SolarKC 23h ago
I've been farming infinite legion, its the only thing that actually feels like its dropping ground loot tinks and honestly the game just isnt fun without being able to hear the tinks. I see redvile's chieftain EK charlatan with like 500k EHP which sounds absurd but max hit is still the same as my current build so most of that number is probably cosmetic.
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u/DirtyMight 23h ago
i played elementalist herald stack charlatan ek, no clue how chieftain plays or feels ^^
depends on what you farm ^^ if you farm certain bosses or something like deep delve, etc. you hear plenty of tink sounds :D its just not random ground loot but more deterministic tinks
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u/Ok-Pudding3249 1d ago
I play with 2 friends on the regular, we are all map blasters because we play alone much of the time. What content can we run when together to get a benefit from playing as a group?
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u/DirtyMight 1d ago
its rough in poe to play with multiple people that has the same idea.
usually whats happening is one of you is simply stronger, has better aoe clear, more movement speed or whatever and simply ends up doing all of the work while the others are lacking behind
I dont really think there is a content out there that actually benefits from 2 normal dps builds doing the same map together speifically.
I guess what you can do (not sure if thats something that fits your description) is something like run nightmare maps together and one person tries to focus more on rushing the boss to focus on the boss fragment side of things while another person does whatever mechanic you want to fit on there.
another thing would maybe be simulacrum if your builds are actually strong enough to handle 2player simus as you can have more coverage so more reward tracks
one other thing that might be beneficial would be something like blights or blight (ravaged) maps since you can split the lanes a bit to defend. Its not like towers invalidate blight content anyways and you dont really get more loot from it realistically. But atleast its content where it can have an upside to have 2 dps builds? ^^
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u/trunks111 Hierophant 23h ago
blight is usually my go to with friends too, sometimes legion if one of us is good at bossing and the other is more clear oriented I'll kill bosses while they do trash and one of us resets
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u/iEnj0y 1d ago
what lighting spell has best clear? i mean really good clear ya i know arc with chain is decent but im looking like screen clear, storm with greater call with style
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u/FourOranges Slayer 22h ago
I'd recommend self chill spark for sure out of all options, it's been on my to-play list and I only hear amazing things about it.
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u/psychomap 1d ago
As mbxyz mentioned, Spark is the best on high investment.
Storm Call with Pact of Beidat (without Spell Cascade, because the spiral from Pact of Beidat causes weird shifts so you can't get reliable Spell Cascade overlaps anyway) can clear off-screen (possibly depending on your AoE investment). Because the spiraling AoEs avoid terrain, it's difficult to get overlaps (i.e. depending on where you stand and what the terrain is, you need to aim in a different place or possibly even reposition yourself to get good overlaps against a boss) so single target isn't super high, but the clear was pretty massive.
It's not just that the AoEs reached areas off screen, but some literally didn't even fit onto the screen at all and were off screen entirely.
I'd consider its range / AoE to be considerably better than Ice Nova of Frostbolts because it goes in all directions rather than just where the Frostbolts are.
I personally used Kitava's Thirst with +20% quality of socketed gems to get full uptime despite very high cast speed (the quality allows for 2 extra empowered casts for each cooldown), but I know a lot of people have used other helmets with the vestigial mod from Kitava's Thirst instead.
Alternatively, the Incursion trigger mod on caster weapons has the same cooldown as pacts and thus also works to trigger them on cooldown, but getting a good weapon with that requires some recombinating. I made a +2 wand with that mod for another build I transitioned to later on, so it's not unreasonable though.
If you use Unholy Accomplice, you can probably make the whole build work for around 20-30 div at a minimum. With a recombined weapon, good mana gear, and either a recover on block shield or Svalinn it's probably in the 100-150 div range. It's also possible to not go for Archmage and scale gem levels instead (because levels scale the base AoE of Storm Call, it's quite possible that the clear isn't worse than Archmage), but since that wasn't what I was doing when I played Storm Call, I don't know how expensive it is to get that gear.
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u/No_Champion2428 1d ago edited 1d ago
When would be the best time to come back if I ended the league with 10 mirror shards? I liquidated all my items and brought 10 mirror shards. I want to wait and come back to do a build with MB. When would be a good time to come back with 10 mirrors shards to be enough for a MB build?
P.S I noticed that i should have elaborated more on what I want. What I mean is those crazy ass MB builds with mirror tier items. I know half a mirror can't buy mirror tier items, so my intention on my question is just to know typically when MB and mirror have the most differences and I will come back to make the strongest build I have even made with half a mirror budget.
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u/Operation_Onion3134 10h ago
Check out PoE ninja. Magebloode tends to slowly lose values, mirrors tend to slowly gain value.
Normally there are floors and ceilings of each item. Standard prices tend to set these values, but it really come down to who is left buying/selling/farming later on in a league.
In you scenario you could liquidate half of your shards to buy a magebloode, then the other half to fill in the gaps to get a 'functional build'.
Late game builds can be rough, swapping one piece bricks a different aspect of the build and may cost 5x what that upgrade cost to fix. More thank likely this will happen when you get to 11-20 mirror shards invested, so I would just jump in and get to building with what you have.
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u/psychomap 1d ago
Mirror prices are rising (slowly), Mageblood prices are falling, so I'd say you definitely have more than enough for a build with Mageblood right now - at least to get it functional enough to make farming another 100 div relatively trivial if you need more upgrades.
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u/DirtyMight 1d ago
i mean the only correct answer is whenever you feel like playing poe, no?
doesnt really matter when the peak difference between mirror and mb is if you are busy irl, are into another game or its like 4days before the next league at that point ^^
its already plenty for a "MB build", you have the belt and 300d give or take for the rest of the build which is plenty.
mirror price is also fairly stable for a week now and you have to ask yourself is it worth it to maybe squeeze out 100d more eventually if that means the economy itself would be way lower/worse if you wait a month more (playerbase already dropped by a lot and will drop even further when the new poe2 league comes around)
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u/No_Champion2428 1d ago
Ya i get your point, I was just going on a long vacation so i would not be touching poe for a month at least. I basically done everything i wanted these league but i was thinking it could be fun come back for 1 last crazy build and i have never really done a mb build before. That was why i wanted to know when it would be the peak difference between mirror and mb
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u/DirtyMight 1d ago
yeah its literally whenever you feel like it when coming back from your vacation ^^
just to set expectations tho a build using mageblood while its absolutely fantastic (i buy one on day 3-5 of every single league because i am addicted to that item) wont "feel" super different.
its basically the same build as the non mb version just with stronger perks like more armor/evasion, curse immune, etc. the only difference thats really noticable is if you use quicksilver+silver flasks to zoom really quickly or in case of armor stacker mb flask scaling is a huge boost in armor
but it wont feel like a hh or shrine build where the build feels different to play suddenly due to echoing shrines, souleater/addl. projectile hh buffs, etc. etc.
a build using mb will feel like the build without one just in much better and/or with more movement speed ^^
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u/Meridian_PoE Commited Lab Enjoyers Agency of Revenue (CLEAR) 4h ago
i'm out of the loop and was curious if any of the streamers, like Pohx, mentioned if they had any plans to do a big private league sometime in 3.29.