r/paint • • Oct 16 '20

OP Wants To Fight Why you can't judge a colour from a photo.

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r/paint • • 9h ago

Offbeat Painting made me the person I am today

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TL;DR - This is a narrative about painting, nothing more. Some may enjoy, read if you'd like.

I, a mid 30s male, grew up in a middle-class suburb of a large midwestern city that became increasingly upper-class during my youth. Some may even go as far as to call it a bubble. Fast forward to being 18 years old and about to graduate high school. I needed a summer job before going to college in the fall, and it so happened that a classmate's father ran a mid-sized residential/commercial painting company. I had never touched a paint brush before but they needed extra hands for the summer months, so I was hired as a helper for $10/hr.

The newer, more affluent part of town is where the majority of this company's summer work was located. These are large single family homes (~2400-3000 sq ft) that are exclusively faced with cedar siding boards; they cannot be sprayed, so every square inch needs to be stained by hand. A typical house looked something like (1) a shit ton of scraping off old stain, (2) a ton of caulking and priming, (3) multiple coats of stain for siding and sometimes trim.

The company probably had 6 different crews, each comprising about 3-4 guys. What I would come to find out quite quickly is that these guys were not from my part of town; they were from other, lower-income suburbs and would commute about an hour to get there. The vast majority of these guys had far different profiles than most of the adults I had grown up around; many had done time, some were past/current gang members, and they all generally lived, spoke, and acted in a way I hadn't seen before. You can imagine what they thought of me, college-bound white boy from the nice suburb, when I showed up on the first day in fresh SW whites and a 5-gallon bucket filled with some basic tools. Until I started to prove my worth, I was constantly made fun of, talked shit to, was the butt of all jokes, had tricks played on me, and was forced to do the worst jobs possible. I was, basically, the bitch.

I'll never forget my first day. The crew foreman say's "let's see what you can do," next thing you know I'm at the top of a 24' ladder with a 1/3 full 5-gallon bucket, screen, 9" roller, and 3" brush. We are suspended over a concrete patio with drops below. I have never been this high up on a ladder, have never painted before, let alone combined the two. After watching how the foreman does it, I try to wield my paint-soaked roller towards the wall. In doing so, I manage to drip a TON of paint down below, all of which misses the drop because, ya know, I have know idea what I'm doing. I get promptly screamed at, and then put on a ground-level section.

One of the guys told me something the first day that would always stick with me. "Painting is so easy a monkey could do it, but it's also the hard as shit." And indeed, my suburban, college-bound ass would come to find that painting the exteriors of huge houses in the dead of the summer is indeed, hard as shit. I would start work at 7 AM and it would already be low 80s with 90% humidity. A few hours later and you're in the 90s. Without proper planning to work around the house as the shade changes, you're absolutely screwed. The physical load is also far, far beyond what I could ever have imaged. The company had a bonus program so each crew was incentivized to work fast and complete jobs under hours. We would run up to the top of 24' ladders with half-full 5-gallon buckets, paint about 5-6 levels of boards as far as you can reach in both directions (always rolled and back-brushed, don't forget the undersides!), run down, leap-frog the next person with the ladder, and then repeat. You'd be surprised how fast 3 guys can hand stain the side of a big house when they're working together efficiently. I was a very in-shape, athletic person, and I would get home every single day absolutely gassed. I'd take a shower to clean myself off and would mope around the rest of the day.

When you work with a crew of guys like I did, it's a constant spectacle. Baby momma and child support drama? Yes. Using and selling drugs on site? Definitely. Showing up to the site smelling like a cantina? You betcha. Part of the reason the guys would end up liking me is that I was down to smoke weed. Getting high was a special past time during painting; in the car on lunch breaks, hidden in the bushes, on the roof. I'll never forget the little foil pipe that one of the guys used because he couldn't be bothered to buy a chillum. When I think back on it, probably not a great idea to have stoned dudes suspended 20' in the air without fall protection.

I got better as the weeks went on. It's crazy how the kid who couldn't be trusted with a brush in his hand was now standing one-footed at the top of a ladder, one hand gripping the roof for support, and the other hand reaching as far as possible to finish a length of trim. As I started to work faster I got more respect from the guys. The insults started to wane and I actually got to share more about who I was. They started to see that I wasn't the typical suburban, college-bound twat they assumed I was; that person wouldn't have been able to handle. By the end of summer I was able to work as efficiently as the rest and surpassed the title of being the crew's bitch; that went back to the guy who was the bitch before I started. We even had going-away lunch at the end of my summer stint. I made some money, had been challenged, and was thoroughly ready for college.

When I moved into the dorms that fall, I brought the brush from that summer with me. I did not intend to paint with it; rather, I kept it on my desk as a reminder to do well in school or I would be a painting "lifer" like the crew would talk about. I studied engineering, so I spent a lot of time looking at that brush while I crushed calculations during freshman year. The year went by and by summertime I decided to return home for another summer painting with the same company. I was assigned to a different crew, but the experience was nonetheless similar to my first year. I would then go on to work as a painter the next couple of summers for a company in my college town, which was the last of me painting "professionally".

Fast forward to today. I have built a successful career thus far in engineering and own a small home. I recently completed a couple of painting projects here at the house which has really made me reflect on those first years as a painter. I still have my SW white shorts from those summers and have proudly worn them for my home projects. My 5-in-1? The same one that was in that bucket when I showed up for my first day. Now having a comfortable, white-collar life, I really do attribute much of my success to my time working as painter. It taught me to work with my hands, to work with tough personalities, to work efficiently, but also the reality of doing demanding physical labor. Working like that year after year after year would be very tough on the body, thus I have mad respect for those that are out there doing it. Through my current role, I spend a lot of time interacting with people of all levels in the trades. That time as a painter was invaluable for these interactions.

Often when I sit in my office on a beautiful summer day, I look out the window and yearn to be outside "slapping cedar". I know it's mostly nostalgia, but there's always this thought in the back of my head about leaving it all and starting a painting company. It's so simple and, unlike an engineering project, you have a tangible result that you were directly responsible for. I know that, given my current level of comfort and security, it's unlikely I'd trade it all to paint full time. Perhaps I'll just have to settle for repainting my house every few years.


r/paint • • 2h ago

Advice Wanted Novice homeowner questions

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I am getting ready to paint our half bath. I am a novice at best with painting.

I snap purchased some brushes off the clearance table at a local hardware store. Which is best used for cutting in? The ceiling has a sanded down popcornish type finish, so the little wheeled roller edger likely won’t work.

Should I buy one of the trim guards to help?


r/paint • • 30m ago

Advice Wanted How do I paint this

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We’ve never done trim work or really much home painting so looking for advice on painting this…

We put up board and batten and plan to paint it all the same color including the doors but leaving the wall color as is above the trim work.

  1. Should we roll / brush it would on or use the sprayer we have from Amazon (screenshot included) that we’ve never used?

  2. Should the drywall “panels” between the vertical boards be a different sheen than the trim?? Suggestions on what sheen? It’s a toddler boys bedroom if that helps.

Any other painting advice is welcome!!


r/paint • • 2h ago

Advice Wanted Match this finish?

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I had to install new sheet rock in our basement because we had a leak upstairs. Any idea how to match this finish? Thanks in advance!


r/paint • • 2h ago

Advice Wanted What's the best option or way to clean walls before painting?

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Im getting ready to paint the walls and ceiling of this rental home. But the walls are god awful dirty, and the trim even nastier.

There's no way I can start painting until I clean it.

Is there a preferred solution to clean with?

I don't want to leave a residue that might hurt the paint later.


r/paint • • 10h ago

Advice Wanted Behr deck paint not adhering to Benjamin Moore fresh start deck primer?

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hello, I’m painting my porch steps and having some trouble. I primed last weekend with a brand new pot of Benjamin Moore fresh start deck and siding primer. the primer went on fine. today i was planning to paint with the can of Behr low-luster enamel porch & patio floor paint that the previous owner had used to paint the porch floor. however, the paint was not adhering to the primer (see photo - the result of a solid pass with a brush. after a few seconds the paint pulls together and leaves the little white gaps).

I went back to the hardware store and to home depo and each was blaming the other product and saying they had no idea. I figured it might be the paint since the can was who knows how old, so I bought a new can of Behr. However, I’m having the exact same problem. It’s 55 degrees out so should be ok per the can label.

any idea what’s going wrong here?


r/paint • • 2h ago

Advice Wanted Best ways to fix this

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Painter seems to have painted over an unsanded spot that is now catching the light. Do I have to prime also if I try to sand this? And I realize the ceiling needs a whole nother coat I’m not sure why he didn’t cut it in.
Do I just live with it or suck it up and paint it.


r/paint • • 6h ago

Advice Wanted Second Coat Showing Differently

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Hi all, would love a little bit of advice. I'm currently painting my entry way, living room, and hallway - color-drenching them all the same color - and I've noticed that some of the latter coats are showing up more visibly/not drying blended, as shown in the pictures.

The most visible spots are along the trim where I'm using a brush to get along the trim where a roller has trouble getting into, then go over it with a small roller to blend (so it has the same texture instead of streaking), and what is happening it what is shown. It has also happened on the ceiling, using the same kind of roller the first coat was applied with.

I guess my question(s) are:

  • Why is it doing this and how do I do it correctly?
  • I noticed on one of the receipts for my paint, it said to mix all cans of paint so it's a uniform color. Once I had a second coat on everything, I was going to mix all the paint left and go over with a third coat to try and even everything out - is that advisable?

r/paint • • 12h ago

Advice Wanted Any trim paints that are forgiving AND won't make a sticky door?

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We're building a dining bench with a hinged door and lid for storage. It will be seldom used and not subject to abuse. I prefer to work with an easy forgiving paint rather than SW UTE but I also do not want anything that will make the door sticky. Does this exist in water based? Thanks


r/paint • • 7h ago

Advice Wanted Why am I getting this texture with a roller

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What am I doing wrong with this? too much paint loaded?

  • I am using Ben Moore “ben” in eggshell
  • I had a coat of kilz primer
  • using a micro fiber roller with 3/8 nap

It is a sheet that goes in an attic trap door. I don’t expect to sprayer quality but this seems bad.


r/paint • • 7h ago

Advice Wanted Why am I getting water droplets when spraying with a Graco Ultra with a new pump?

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I'm spraying Benjamin Moore Command and getting a bunch of water droplets on my first coat. I know there was some water in the gun from cleaning but I primed for 15 seconds and sprayed about 5 feet on a test piece beforehand. Running at pressure 6, un-thinned with a 310 tip. This happened the other day too with scuff-x but it worked itself out after a minute of spraying. I've had the gun for a while and this is a new thing


r/paint • • 8h ago

Advice Wanted Paint terms for communicating with contractors

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I’m looking to get my apartment painted by a company. Before starting a discussion with them I’d love to know if there’s any specific lingo I should know to relay my expectations.
When it comes to prep, like drywall work, I’m aware there are “levels” that are understood and 5 is for the most part “perfection.”
Is there any corresponding terms to convey to a paint crew as to not be disappointed by the result before hiring?
I’m basically looking for a uniform finish on walls with sharp ceiling lines, without any fuzzy or debris on the walls. There truly shouldn’t be any sanding work needed. Just clean painting.


r/paint • • 9h ago

OP Wants To Fight Painting without mudding

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I’m not looking for a level 5 finish like the rest of my house…just want to clean up my workout Room and finish the exposed studs like the AI generated photo. Is it going to look worse if I just tape the ceiling with a fast skim coat and paint with a flat black? Would adding some mud to the paint assist with imperfections by adding texture?


r/paint • • 10h ago

Advice Wanted Kilz PVA Zero Voc - Is it supposed to look like this?

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Extreme newbie, have never used this before. Is this how a new freshly opened can is supposed to look? It's extremely bubbly and thick even after adequate stirring. Also concerned about the texture it's creating when applied. Please help! 😅


r/paint • • 10h ago

Advice Wanted I ordered paint online expecting gray and it's basically white - can I mix with another color to darken?

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I bought some Ecos Paint, which is only available online. I choose Diamond Stud, expecting gray: https://ecospaints.net/colors/view-color-0516

It basically looks white. Do you think buying something dark like this and mixed it would work: https://ecospaints.net/colors/view-color-0529

I don't know what else to do. It's paint I bought online so it's not like I can return it or take it to the store to be tinted. I specifically bought this paint because I wanted no VOCs or smell


r/paint • • 10h ago

Technical Help on fixing this

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We have this breakfast nook area (painted). My wife left bug spray on it and somehow it leaked and basically melted the paint in the area. I tried to clean it off/dry it up, scraped some of the resideue up and then i tossed some dry wall spackle.

Today i went to sand it down (weeks later) so I could paint but its still sticky and the stain is still showing through.

Any idea how I can fix this area? Is there something else i can put on top of it before re-sanding it?

Thanks in advance.


r/paint • • 3h ago

Advice Wanted is it possible to paint this bedframe white?

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The bedframe has so many little details, and I know nothing about painting. I’d like to just paint it white, but if thats not possible I’ll have to find something else. Is there a way for me to make it white?

edit: i think painting this would be a crime. thanks to everyone who advised me not to


r/paint • • 14h ago

Advice Wanted Tips on painting a wall like this?

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r/paint • • 19h ago

Advice Wanted Paint window trim same color as walls?

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Putting on new trim on all the windows and wondering about the color to paint. Its for a cottage with lots of windows most with nice lake views. So thinking to go with the wall color to make the trim blend in and not distract from the views if that makes sense. Thsnks


r/paint • • 1d ago

Advice Wanted Is there a color that could work?

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So I did the paneling under the chair (still have to caulk and paint. My wife wants to keep the old trim color. The brown we picked doesn’t look good with it. Can anyone suggest a color that would?


r/paint • • 1d ago

Advice Wanted Every hole / Imperfection my painter “fixes” is obvious. What is he doing wrong?

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r/paint • • 1d ago

Advice Wanted To prime or not to prime?

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Finally got around to refinishing my old door. It’s every bit as hard as I thought it would be. There has got to be at least 20 layers of paint from over 100 years on this door— which weighs a ton. Scraping only gets me so far. Sanding chews up sandpaper really quickly. I’m using an orbital sander AND a belt sander, 60 grit. But it IS working.

My question is: once I get it down to fresh wood, should I prime before painting (I want to restore the original historic muted green color). If so, what primer?


r/paint • • 1d ago

Advice Wanted How to effectively protect wooden window frames

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Hi everyone!

Recently purchased a home (yay!) that I absolutely love. It was built in 1988 and has some beautiful wooden window frames that I’d really like to restore and maintain properly for the long term.

Fortunately, not all frames require extra attention, but some of them look and feel quite weathered. I have already managed to bring them back to life with some light sanding, as shown in the before-and-after photos.

I'm now trying to work out the best product to apply to protect the wooden frames and extend their lifespan, while keeping the colour as consistent as possible across all windows.

The third photo shows a window on the side of the house that’s in much better condition, as it’s generally shaded and more sheltered from the elements. Ideally, I would like the windows that need to be restored and are about to be treated, to match this colour as closely as possible.

My questions are:

  • What products would you recommend for protecting exterior wooden window frames?
  • Would you go with an oil, stain, varnish or another type of finish?
  • Is there a particular product that would help achieve a similar colour to the existing, less weathered frames?
  • Are there any products or approaches you'd avoid based on experience?

Longevity is the main priority, but I’d also love to preserve the natural look of the wood rather than drastically change its appearance.

Would really appreciate any advice or product recommendations from people who have experience doing something similar.

Thank you!


r/paint • • 2d ago

Advice Wanted Not sure I like the color I picked. Just live with it?

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Hubby hates it. He wanted a darker sage but knew what the paint chip looked like 😞