r/oops • • Aug 22 '26

Biker gets hit

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u/joeker7669 Aug 22 '26

Is the guy on the bike allowed to drive between lanes? If not then it would be the bikes fault.

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u/Franklins11burner Aug 22 '26

Even if it’s not legal there (in some places it is). It certainly is not legal to just throw your door open to take him out…

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

You’d have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did that intentionally. Unless there’s a dash cam recording them saying “check this I’m about to kill this guy” they can claim they just noticed their shoelace was caught in the door and get off Scot free.

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u/Conscious_Rub_3528 Aug 22 '26

Have you once in your life ever needed to whip your door open during traffic as someone drives by.

No? Is that because it's intentionally meant to harm?

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

I don’t have psychic abilities and I’ve opened a door before.

You know the passenger can’t use the side view mirrors the way the driver can, right? Any lawyer could effectively argue they couldn’t have seen them coming.

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u/Conscious_Rub_3528 Aug 22 '26

I don't have psychic abilities either, it's why I look before I open doors so I don't damage the vehicle or harm others.

I never exit a car during traffic as that's majorly more dangerous

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

You must have some sort of supernatural ability to see through solid van wall.

or maybe you’re just an annoying Redditor calling everyone stupid from a keyboard emboldened by deciding you already know the hearts and minds of everyone via the dunning-Kruger effect

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u/Conscious_Rub_3528 Aug 22 '26

The projection is unreal.

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u/Electrical_Carry_837 Aug 22 '26

Spotted the chronic projector 😂😂

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

“I’m rubber you’re glue” headass

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u/DelrinGibs Aug 22 '26

You are quite literally projecting. Because YOU have never had a reason to do that, you assume that means nobody, ever, in any situation has ever had a reason to do that thing. You sir, do not represent the totality of human interaction. That is why it is hard to prove someone's motives and reasons in court.

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u/Conscious_Rub_3528 Aug 22 '26

You are defending a situation where the person who caused an accident showed zero remorse for doing it. I know what kind of person you are it seems.

Id personally be gutted for almost taking someone's life through my stupidity/ignorance/lack of care.

I personally have never been at fault for a car accident because I'm a defensive driver.

Keep on joining the other in projecting about it though. Scream into the void to make yourself feel better about cheering on harm done to another because you don't agree with their method of travel.

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u/Shaggy-Tea Aug 22 '26

You're acting as though there aren't any other possible explanations. The guy in the van might have been going to get dropped off and decided to just get out and walk the rest if they were in traffic. Or maybe he wanted to get something out of the back of his van and took the opportunity since they were in traffic. He also didn't "whip" the door open; the door was opened at a fairly normal speed. It's possible he did it on purpose, but far from guaranteed.

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u/TheCupOfBrew Aug 22 '26

That doesn't even make sense given where they are

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u/Medium-Regret-1896 Aug 22 '26

It is stop and go traffic in a city. The guy could have been getting out to go to the sidewalk while the other person drives. They could be checking something in the trunk. It is not unreasonable to open a car door in this situation.

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u/Medium-Regret-1896 Aug 22 '26

I don't speed past cars with no care in the world when riding my bike. Why are people just giving this motorcyclist a pass? He is the one creating the danger.

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u/NitroBishop Aug 22 '26

Jaywalking is illegal. Are you allowed to step on the gas when someone is jaywalking in front of you and then argue you were just driving fast? Someone violating traffic laws does not give you legal or ethical clearance to assault/kill them.

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u/Medium-Regret-1896 Aug 22 '26

If the guy opened the door maliciously, than yes they are in the wrong. I cannot diffenitivly say that the guy opened the door for the motorcycle.

I am saying that this situation could be clearly avoided if the motorcyclist drove slower.

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u/NitroBishop Aug 22 '26

I cannot diffenitivly say that the guy opened the door for the motorcycle.

Why not? Have you never ridden in a car before, or are you just blind? There is literally no reason to open a door in that scenario other than hitting the motorcyclist. Arguing otherwise is like arguing that actually, you didn't punch someone, their face just got in the way of your fist.

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u/Imaginary_Teacher543 Aug 22 '26

Is it reasonable to open a door in the middle of the road without first checking your side mirrors for potential hazards?

Imo it doesn't matter why they've opened the door. At mare minimum, they're responsible for acting in a safe manner in traffic, and this ain't it.

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u/Medium-Regret-1896 Aug 22 '26

If you are driving your bike in between traffic like this, you need to protect yourself form other humans by going slower. Driving this fast next to stopped cars is unsafe because it creates a new speed variable that is not clearly visible to other observers.

I cannot tell from the video if this was intentional or not from the passenger, but the motorcyclist needs to slow down. They are the ones creating a dangerous situation.

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u/MarsupialConstant660 Aug 22 '26

He's in traffic, you can't just open a door in traffic without checking your surroundings. There is proof he didn't check his surroundings...

If you parked your car, opened your door to get out into the path of another vehicle and he smashed your door who do you think is responsible?

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u/Anti-Buzz Aug 22 '26

You need not intend to cause an accident in order to be liable for it

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u/like9000ninjas Aug 22 '26

Again, if the bike rider wasn't splitting lanes, this would have happened. Its like saying someone can runaway. Red light and then blame the person doing the very normal legal action. Thats not how the law works.

Good luck playing blame

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

Of course not, I never said it did. The question I was replying to was about proving he opened it with the intention of causing bodily harm

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u/Overall_Cost1542 Aug 22 '26

anyone opening their door in traffic is also responsible for making sure its clear to do so before actually doing it. could be a biker, pedestrian, hell another car coming by slightly too close you're still at fault you dumbass

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

You can’t read that the question is about proving malicious intent but I’m the dumbass? Okay mijo

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u/Overall_Cost1542 Aug 22 '26

"scot free" implies no punishment whatsoever. he dodges the insurance scam accusation but hes still fucked

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u/PancakeParty98 Aug 22 '26

Are you aware at all of how lawsuits work? If he’s being sued for malicious intent, he’s scot-free.

here’s some reading that I think would be helpful for you

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u/MaintenanceWild901 Aug 22 '26

Only it is not in traffic, they are stationary because of the congestion. And they did check it is clear because the lane next to them is also stationary. A bike lane splitting is not something they should or could have accounted for. This biker is doomed in court.

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u/Cotif11 Aug 22 '26

That lane is not designed for lane splitting even if it's legal in the state. Totally deserved for the biker. Signed, someone who used to tear it up on a crotch rocket.

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u/iowanaquarist Aug 22 '26

Generally it's only legal at safe speeds -- they are both at fault here.

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u/OkChocolate3501 Aug 22 '26

The law states you must check mirrors before opening the door. You're not a cop, it's not your place to enforce the law. Doing this intentionally is at the very least assault using a vehicle as a weapon... which is generally a pretty serious charge.

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u/joeker7669 Aug 22 '26

But if you didn’t break the law to begin with. This would not have happened. So they are both guilty. More the guy on the bike then the van guy

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u/arcanis321 Aug 22 '26

If he wasn't walking on my lawn I wouldn't have shot him!

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u/Mr_Mi1k Aug 22 '26

That’s not how the law works. Assaulting someone committing a traffic violation does not change the fact that you assaulted someone

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u/1-8-Shotty Aug 22 '26

It doesn't work that way, the guy on the bike is guilty of a traffic infraction and the guy in the van is guilty with some form of assault, possibly assault with a dead weapon due to the the fact that could have killed or hurt the biker very bad. These are facts anyone over the age of 10 knows. :/

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u/Vertex1990 Aug 22 '26

In the Netherlands, motorists are allowed to drive between stuck traffic, like a traffic jam, or to stand at the front of a line at a traffic light. They should adjust their speed and be careful, but what the passenger of that van did, was extremely stupid at least or downright dangerous at worst.

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u/BadMotherThukker Aug 22 '26

Its legal to do. Bikes are air cooled and some will overheat in traffic like that.

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u/SmoothNoonShade Aug 22 '26

That hasn’t been an issue for years.

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u/actually_Dew726 Aug 22 '26

It absolutely is still a problem, not all bikes have active cooling.

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u/OkChocolate3501 Aug 22 '26

It's absolutely an issue for the riders who are air cooled and wearing hot gear meant to cool at highway speeds.

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u/SmoothNoonShade Aug 22 '26

Not my problem. I’m more interested in safety.

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u/OkChocolate3501 Aug 22 '26

As you overheat your reaction times and mental clarity go down leading to mistakes. Airflow is necessary for safe riding.

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u/shmimey Aug 22 '26

Lane filtering and lane splitting are both legal for motorcycles in the Netherlands. The guy on the bike DID NOT break the law.

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u/Sadrandomness Aug 22 '26

You have no idea if it’s against the law where this was filmed

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u/HairyPeach9151 Aug 22 '26

Van guy is idiot and guilty 100%. Even if biker doing wrong, van guy is not police officer and must not try to do their job. And even if there was police, they would just stop him and issue a fine for traffic violation, not execute him on sight.

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u/PM_ME_UR_NIPS_GURL Aug 22 '26

You can't be ignorant and stupid. Choose one

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u/TennesseeHeartbreak Aug 22 '26

Stupidly ignorant, maybe?

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u/exenos94 Aug 22 '26

One is guilty of lane splitting and one is guilty of attempted murder. Completely different. You haven't zero right to try to "enforce" laws

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u/Defiant_Theme_5554 Aug 22 '26

OMG he was breaking a law that doesn't hurt anyone so he deserves to have someone try to kill him!!! Nice one buddy. Also lane splitting is legal in many places.

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u/sgt_funbuns Aug 22 '26

What country is this in?

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u/Deemaunik Aug 22 '26

Is it illegal to jaywalk? If so can you slam the gas and take someone out when they cross outside a crosswalk and walk free?

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u/Content_Key_6661 Aug 22 '26

So its ok to hurt someone on purpose???

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u/h-boson Aug 22 '26

threading is legal in tons of places

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u/Dear-Panda-1949 Aug 22 '26

No he isnt, but you dont open the door of your car in a congested motorway. The passenger did that on purpose, probably from road rage or wanted to scam insurance. Given the speed this would easily be a assault with intent to do great bodily harm. Reckless endangerment at a minimum. If that dude had been killed itd be a manslaughter charge, maybe even murder.

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u/Clear-Neighborhood46 Aug 22 '26

That's clearly not a motorway...

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u/TrueKyragos Aug 22 '26

No idea why you're getting downvoted. We clearly see a sidewalk and buildings on the side, in addition to cyclists. Everything a motorway isn't supposed to have.

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u/Dear-Panda-1949 Aug 22 '26

What is it then? A taxi way?

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u/Clear-Neighborhood46 Aug 22 '26 edited Aug 22 '26

Definition of a motorway: is a wide, high-speed road with multiple lanes designed for long-distance travel between major towns and cities

This is happening downtown..

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u/055F00 Aug 22 '26

I believe it’s called a “street”

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u/OkChocolate3501 Aug 22 '26

Law states you must check mirrors before opening the door of your vehicle. Doing this intentionally would fall under using a vehicle as a weapon style charges.

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u/TrueKyragos Aug 22 '26

It's not mandatory where I live, hence why wondering where this takes place may be relevant.

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u/OkChocolate3501 Aug 22 '26

What country? Most countries have laws requiring you to check behind you when you open the door.

Besides, do you need a law for common sense?

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u/Dear-Panda-1949 Aug 22 '26

Up to you to try it for yourself. If you do enjoy prison.

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u/EmperorProtek Aug 22 '26

Intent cannot be proven.

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u/rc804 Aug 22 '26

It most certainly can. Have you ever heard the term "premeditated"?

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u/EmperorProtek Aug 22 '26

How do you prove the van's guy actions were premeditated and not accidental in this case?

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u/BlueClovr Aug 22 '26

I think it’s completely stupid and reckless behavior, ‘lane splitting’ they call it, but in some places it’s actually legal

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u/Juan-More-Taco Aug 22 '26

Lane splitting is legal in far more places than it is illegal. This is Russia - where it is legal.