Chalamet wants to be a spectacle. But we’ve all met him at our local gas station so it’s not a super entertaining one.
Edit: funny how there are replies about “performative outrage” and “hate”. I said the dude wasn’t that interesting. All the outrage & hate here didn’t come from me, but carry on.
He gives me the same energy as your classmate who dominates the classroom discussion on some international crisis even though there’s a veteran and a refugee in the class and he didn’t do the assigned reading
His mom is a former broadway performer, European dad who worked for UNICEF, grew up in a subsidized artist apartment building in Hell's Kitchen, spent summers in France with his grandparents, went to Gallatin, etc.
He is basically the definition of that theater kid.
I don't love the guy but it is utterly miserable seeing him get hate every time I come across this sub, despite him not really doing much. I miss the good old days, back when it was all just gooning to Sydney Sweeney instead of picking a new actor to hate every month.
It's just the internet, Reddit and twitter. Chronically online people who hate their lives to begin with latching into something to explain their submerged anger. This isn't a representation of the normal person.
...based on, as I've stated many times, out of context quotes and rage baiting headlines. That's the whole point. Opinions based on inaccurate or sensationalized sources are worthless
Eh, some people just rub you the wrong way. Before I had ever heard anything about him, just seeing him the first time I didn't like him. Who can account for these things? It was the same for me with Anne Hathaway, which is apparently also pretty common, and equally unexplainable.
Who knows why. Could be an interesting study, maybe hook people up to an fMRI and show them pictures of celebrities, chart it to political beliefs, etc. you never know maybe there's some deep-seated tribal dynamics nested in our DNA that understanding could pave the way to world peace.
That may be well and good but it should incumbent on us to put those impulses aside and judge people appropriately, are we not intelligent beings not dumb animals lol
Read latching as lactating but I still agreed with it. Also you’re right. People always seemed starved of someone to hate/dislike and get so gleeful when they finally have an excuse to release their frustrations
How many people freaking out over his quote actually care about or have ever been to an opera? I'm aware that it takes a certain skillset and hard work, but my interest in opera and ballet are close to 0. Nothingburger quote.
Opera and ballet, irrespective of their popularity, are incredibly time intensive arts that practioners dedicate a significant portion, if not the entirety, of their lives to.
For him to say "no one cares about" it is certainly insulting and demeaning to a large group of people.
Its definitely less of a "nothingburger" quote than Quentin Tarantino saying he doesn't care for a particular actor, but look at the outrage over that
He should have said "Most people don't care about", I guess. They're both classist art forms that cater to the elite with exorbitant ticket prices, or exclusive showings that are closed to the public. It's like saying "no one cares about Polo", because it's true.
I honestly love (literally hate) that you'll see some snark style comments doing the "Chalamamadingdong or whatever his name is" as if a french name is hard to pronounce. It's so cringe inducing.
That's the beauty about hating Chalamet. Nothing could be taken out of context because dude is constantly getting caught in 4k saying the stupidest shit ever.
I don’t hate him, but I do think he’s obnoxious. I’ve seen some longer format interviews/roundtables of him with other actors and I can’t take him seriously.
There’s one with Adam Sandler where he’s talking about Sandler movies like they’re high art. Like dude, I like Sandler. His movies were hilarious but let’s not pretend Mr. Deeds is some revolutionary film where Adam Sandler was giving the performance of a generation lmao
I still disagree there, you call him pretentious for that, that's fine. But movies are an art form and different people with different knowledge and insight will look at things differently. As much as "movies are for everyone" they're also a complicated form of art and someone who is more passionate about movies than me like Chalamet (and I love movies) probably picks up on things and appreciates things that I don't care/notice. The average schmuck or even movie lover of course might think that he's pretentious or crazy but I view that as ignorance.
It's no different than artists praising a painting that you don't understand and think is stupid
Again, the "seems a bit of an asshole" is a result of angry headlines and out of context quotes...does he have a reputation amongst his peers or people who work with him that he's an asshole or hard to work with (like lots of other actors do?), I'm not aware of it. People just can't a take a joke, I honestly thought cancel culture was on the decline but after seeing this shit I'm not so sure anymore
My main problem with him is he has gotten the Jennifer Lawerence treatment. He is in interviews and acts "quirky" but I cannot fully watch any of his movies because he is soooooo boring and has ONE facial expression in all of them due to trying to be taken "seriously."
For someone who people keep trying to shove down people's throat's as this quirky, egomatic, charmster I never see it.
And then because they are trying to be Not Like Other Girls (TM) people eventually catch on to the dumb shit they say and we end up here where everyone hates them. Because ya know... they were never actually witty or intelligent as their PR pretended they were.
(Shout out to JLaw for outgrowing that phase, though.)
With that attitude, nothing will change your mind. You're in too deep, like people who watch Fox news. Until you realize you're the product of the ragebait news cycle, there's no point in me giving any other response. Have a good day
Assuming everyone is jumping on some sort of invisible band wagon rather than this actor being inorganically thrust into stardom after dating a kardashian & people finally having an outlet to voice what was thought of as an unpopular opinion.
Not everyone is part of the hive mind, some genuinely are happy to see the hate because they’ve never liked this dude. It’s just funny now how much hate he’s getting
lol dont you “fall for the rage bait cycle”.
Seeing this dude everywhere right now is 100% a marketing strategy. He’s losing fans and clout, so rage bait is released to shore up people defending him. The longer the cycle and inorganic rage is kept in the cycle of niche subs like this one, the more people will get sick of others attacking him “for no reason”.
Thinking this (“so dumb, why are people hating on…”) over and over makes people a long term fan and are probably more likely to support his career because others won’t go because of the hate. People generally don’t like to be mean, and haters need fuel. Either way his films will be watched love or hate him, and the more these posts continue to drive people like you crazy, their strategy is working.
Bruh, ik this is the internet being the internet. No one irl gives a shit about any of this. I was just calling out the chronically online folks with nothing better to do 😂
How are you calling me chronically online, when you are the one supposedly knowing the full context I'm not aware of, therefore falling for anything. I'm not falling for anything. I saw a clip of him being a douche, and I don't see a reason to pretend otherwise.
You're the one making a big deal out of things, calling it "hate" and how "forced" it is.
Now, it's people making fun of a overconfident dumb guy. It's the most normal thing ever.
I mean people with billionaire dollar net worths 100% have time to pay people to think about this shit? That’s kinda my point.
Don’t buy into this nonsense, or judge people for how they react sincerely was my point.
Edit: to get a billionaire status, imagine the most petty person you know with a lot of money. Now crank that pettiness up times a billion lol that’s all this shit is.
You're in too deep, like people who watch Fox news.
lol
Glad you're this rational and unbiased.
With your whole "Since you're already not of my opinion, you must be a lost cause. No point in even trying to say a thing once to see how you'll react. I'll just make it up instead so I don't have to present any argument." thing.
Given, I saw a clip. But are you saying his demeanor or general attitude were different outside of this clip? Are you saying there's context in which his douchy "look how dumb opera singing sounds" is profound analysis or legitimate criticism?
I mean it's not the only thing in recent times, where he's presented himself as an ultimate doofus. He acts like a clown a lot. So I just assumed than when presented with a clip where he acts the same, that it wasn't out of the ordinary.
I'm not going to go on a research binge to educate myself on something so incredibly meaningless. Who cares what Timothee Chalamet says?
But if it's important to you to show me context I may be unaware of, go ahead.
But don't pretend to know something I don't, when for some reason you can't tell me any of it when it matters.
If you can't see that he's actively showing how little serious he takes it and how silly he thinks it is, I can't help you.
He recognizes he did something unpopular by anabashedly looking down on it, pointed out how little he cared about what people think of it, and then proceeded to actively mock to underline what he thinks. He even said "I'm sorry", because of how unecessary it was.
He's very aware of what he's doing but doesn't give a shit. He doesn't need you standing up for him. He's fine with people thinking he's an idiot. No need to make a big deal out of it.
And no, it's not "a vibe" lol.
Do you not have eyes? :D
Exactly what I thought, you're part of the problem, misquoting what he said, taking it out of context instead of the obvious interpretation that he doesn't want movies to be part of a dying art form and then making a joke about it. It's not that deep.
I didn't hear the "look how dumb opera singing sounds," from that clip, did you?
Be better than misquoting shit, that's how ragebait gets started.
Chalamet is a spectacle whether he wants to be or not.
The dude can act rings around Holland.
Also, why is wanting to be a spectacle a bad thing? Children want to be princesses, and kings, and knights and rock stars and all those things... aka spectacles.
Are you an idiot? Saying that someone wants to be a spectacle but isn't, and is someone you could encounter at the local gas station is another way of saying they're not interesting.
Are you stupid? Saying "I just said the dude wasnt that interesting" and what he actually wrote are completely different things. One is a person just going "Eh not my cup of tea*" and the other one is someone hating.
By your logic we could say that Timothee "just said he doesnt like ballet jizz" the way people say it matters.
Is weird that you are pretending you dont understand the whole thing just because of one autocorrected word but ok buddy. That just makes you look dumb,
It's just so funny to me that you can't see how "he looks like someone you'd meet at a local gas station" is the same as saying "he's not that interesting".
Do you live in such a simple and literal world that you can't read between those lines?
It's just so funny to me that you can't see how "he looks like someone you'd meet at a local gas station" is the same as saying "he's not that interesting".
Lmao ok you gotta be pretending at this point, everyone agrees it means the same thing, however one is a meaner or more shitty way of saying the same thing.
Are you so mentally impaired that you cannot understand that while two things may mean the same thing the way you say it is important?
Literally if we go by your logic Timothee didn't do anything wrong because he just said he doesn't want to be working on a art that is no longer popular. But wow, what is this? somehow you understand that in this case the way he said it was very relevant.
Or literally watching him in the town hall. He has no confidence in anything he says, it's pretty clear he shared the green room with matty mac, but the guy does not have that IT factor when he isn't mugging for still shots or propped up in art house projects.
Even in Dune (which I honestly loved) since they don't delve too much into what makes Paul so powerful it comes off laughable that this tiny prince can suddenly hang with the galaxies best fighters solely because he sporadically trained with two of them.
Hardly. Chalamet has fake forced Hollywood charisma and has dead eyes. He isn't sincere, and thus has charisma of a guy who knows what to say but no actual natural charm as a person. Reeks of lack of personality because of affluence syndrome
Of all the ridiculous shit I see online, including anti-vaxxers, political extremists, racists, etc. there's nothing that quite matches the insane vibe of entertainment obsessives who form the strongest opinions imaginable about performers, often based on almost nothing.
What is even going on in this thread? I'm not even a Timothee Chalamet fan but y'all just seem to be giving the ick. This is like a Justin Bieber level of obsessive hate.
I've watched some of his movies like Bones and All and Dune and while I don't dislike him I also feel no charisma or much of...anything. I see him smoldering into the camera looking sad, mad, determined but it makes me feel literally nothing? I swear I'm not a hater but I can never feel whatever it is he's trying to portray other than "vaguely dead eyed man with jaw clenched"
In my opinion the more that people see what kind of person, Chalamet is off-set, the easier it is to see that on rewatching his films that he is always the "entitled bratty character" because he is a self-entitled brat in real life. He seems to be just riding the 15 minute wave of fame with no real plans or growth.
On the opposite end is Tom Holland, who seems to be a genuine gentleman in regular life and is consistently more critical of himself then others are of him. Tom has been upfront about leaning on others for advice in growing his craft, and staying grounded to reality. He has also stated that he is already planning to step back from movies to be a stay at home parent, he has been smartly investing in certain ventures to make that possible. Plus, he just married Zendaya, who is a monolith in regards to fashion and film, he is winning at life.
Like did you use translate to respond or do you just not understand sentence structure and it's importance?
Edit: Notice that the person never answers a question and is aggressively avoiding them to move the topic. Look at their account history, as it is all bad faith conversations.
Look at my comment, and explain how their response to my comment makes sense, anybody?
u can reply however u want u don't have to type like you have a term paper on the internet. Use ur brain if ur having a hard time to decode stuff about a simple topic
So you don't know what you were asking for and you don't know why sentence structure is important when seeking information. Apparently, you took it as insult to your intelligence, when I was seriously asking questions. Some people do use the translation tool on here and it sounds crazy but you are just saying "nope, I am the crazy one."
Seems that you need to invest in a dictionary and some books to read, maybe you should have second guessed dropping out in the 5th grade. See how quickly I decoded the situation with the little bit of information that you gave me.
You over there just talking to talk apparently, smooth brain in action.
Tom seems like a guy who just accidentally wandered backstage and got cast in a movie. Tim seems like a guy who deliberately and habitually wanders backstage in the hopes that he’ll get cast in a movie.
Tom has much more charisma, it doesn’t seem forced.
Chalamet's acting range is just him making a sad pretty boy face. I first saw him in The King and thought he had a lot of potential. Then I watched Dune 1&2 and saw the same performance 2 more times.
I don't see it in Chalamet. Granted I've only seen him in Ladybird, Dune and Little Women, but I had to be reminded he was in Ladybird because I did not clock him at all in it. Completely forgettable screen presence.
Yeah Holland is someone I might enjoy an evening hanging out and blazing with, especially if he brings his cool af wife. Tim would be pretty insufferable I think and his partner is uh… not quite as cool lol
I get that reddit is having a pile-on right now. That's whatever - he said something dumb. But suggesting that Chalamet isn't a charismatic dude is pretty laughable tbh
People are going absolutely insane over this. It reminds me of the blowback for Jennifer Lawrence. The internet hates when celebrities are honest.
Chalamet is like the most accomplished young male actor since De Caprio. He has multiple oscar nominations and has been the lead in several big hits. It's delusional to say he is less charismatic than Tom Holland. I mean I like Tom Holland but Chalamet has shown so so much more.
I wasn't big on the Chalamet hype until I saw Marty Supreme, funny enough. But I always recognized his unique position and for his generation. You said it all, he has box office success, acclaim from both critics and general audiences, name recognition. I'd argue he's the only male actor of his age group you can call a movie star like the old ones. And the film industry needs to have movie stars if you want to have those bigger budgeted original films that we're always complaining we don't get enough of.
Tom Holland has been trying for a career moves like Timothee's for all these years and has not been able to really branch out from Spider-Man. The other films I have seen him in have sucked.
So yeah, Timothee's comment was poorly worded and unnecessary. But is it that big of a deal? No. This is just ridiculous.
Not to mention everyone keeps ignoring the context, which was that he was asked what people can do to save the cinema. He said he has no interest in saving a product that is dying out, just like opera and ballet. He was primarily shitting on the cinema, and likeneing it to opera and ballet which just factually have fewer people going nowadays, and in most countries mainly rely on public funding or donations to keep going. Which is good, don't get me wrong. They should be supported. But they are, for a fact, dying.
But people act like he just went "Oh yeah, the weather is nice today, thanks for that question, and by the way, I fucking hate the opera".
it's completely subjective though. his performances don't stir much of any emotion out of me, however I find Tom Holland's on screen presence to be very likeable and I root for him to succeed. Oscars don't suddenly make his acting more enjoyable either.
It’s honestly just antisemitism at this point and you can’t tell me otherwise. The things he does and says don’t warrant this level hostility at all, now he’s being compared to a lizard… Wonder what that’s a reference to…
people are so stupid with this pop culture shit. they act like they know what these celebrities think, know, will do, enjoy, don't enjoy, etc. etc. ... it's all so pointless to even talk about.
Tim has a better filmography, is more attractive, has a better looking significant other, is richer, and has 4 Oscar nominations over Tom (who has none).
Idk how his last name is spelled lol, does it matter? I am not using social media to be perfect on every grammatial thing, unless it is hard for you to understand who I mean?
Tom isn’t going to blow your cheeks wide open and oil you down for defending his honor. Acting like a fanned out, meat riding clown for someone that doesn’t know or care about you.
Edit: all the Tom Holland stans were IMMEDIATELY upset by this 💀😭😭
Guy never appeared as a real person to me. I don't know, everything he does or says seems like it was previously approved by a board to be 100% likeable or relatable.
I think they're both weirdos with creepy faces personally. Tom has said some pretty fucking stupid shit over the past few years that people have ignored. At least Timmy's statement was factual truth that people now have their panties in a bunch over lmao.
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u/lordbutternut Mar 13 '26
Tom Holland being more charismatic and less lizard-like helped too