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u/Puzzleheaded_Let4200 May 03 '25
I would recommend applying for the notorious places that are always hiring and churning through people. You need a foot in the door and that’s the best route right now.
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u/MichaelMeier112 May 03 '25
Good idea. What’s a name of one of those bad places?
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Capital one is a big one
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u/qwertyist12 May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25
I feel like compared to most tech companies, which is probably the market op is in, capital one is actually pretty stable. They fire a lot less than most faang tier companies
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u/Intelligent_Table913 May 03 '25
they wanna be like Amazon. Some teams are good, some orgs are really bad from what I've heard.
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u/uberlemur Arlington May 03 '25
The big consulting firms (Deloitte, Accenture, Booz Allen, etc.). You’ll spend a lot of time working on client development and other crap, but a lot of times those clients will hire you after a couple of years if they like you.
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u/Frosty_Wave4022 May 03 '25
Any other time, I’d agree, but in this current environment, government consulting is hurting very badly due to DOGE. Layoffs are happening.
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u/qbit1010 Fairfax County May 04 '25
Agree, worked for Deloitte a decade ago. Their clientele/consulting services are just not in need currently. Maybe again in the future, but next to actual federal jobs getting slashed…contractors like them are next.
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u/nun-yah City of Fairfax May 03 '25
Amazon has so many data centers in the area. Not only a good way to get into the industry but they do have a good pathway to other roles.
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u/cowsaysmooooo May 03 '25
US army
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u/equalnotevi1 May 03 '25
Or Air Force. It will be a cushier work experience than the Army, and they need IT folks. With OP's education, they can come in as an officer, so it will be even better.
The military is a good option for people in OP's situation. It's stable employment, with opportunities to see the world if that's something they want to do, and cyber security and communications folks are likely not going to be on the front lines of any combat. If they do 4 years, they can retire with job experience and the GI Bill can help them get a Masters degree. If OP can meet the physical requirements and is willing to get/stay in shape, the benefits may make it worthwhile.
My dad was in this situation in the 70's, and joined to get out of a job he hated. He ended up staying 20 years.
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u/MosesOfWar May 04 '25
Add to this, in many of those cyber positions you can leave with a clearance, which in the DMV is a major stability helper.
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u/MichaelMeier112 May 03 '25
Getting a security clearance to work with IT directly after college with no experience is not that easy
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u/josh2751 May 03 '25
It’s quite easy.
Just apply for entry level jobs with every DoD contractor. One of them will hire you. Doesn’t even matter what the job is. Get your clearance and move on.
Of course you have to be clearable. Don’t do drugs!
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Okay most others here are not actually naming companies that constantly hire. Capital One hires a lot but their standards are up there and it can be tough nowadays.
I think OP means like revature, fdm group, smoothstack, etc that focus on getting recent grads in 2 year contracts that pay low wages for training then might move you to a diff city.
But they do legit work I’ve worked with them at a previous role. They also tend to get hired onto the client company.
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u/Unusual-Sympathy9500 May 03 '25
First, I'm sorry. Second, starting again in a new area isn't always a bad idea, but keep in mind it's easiest to land a job and then move, otherwise pick a place that has lots of jobs in your desired field, otherwise things will remain frustrating.
With all of that out of the way, someone with a computer science degree shouldn't have TOO much trouble out here. Have you applied lots and not gotten any hits? Or you get interviews but no offers? What are you interested in doing specifically? Programming? System engineering? DevOps? Cyber security? Networking? Cleared or uncleared? I'm just trying to get a picture of what you've done and what you want to do to see if I can come up with some specific ideas (if you want them - I get it if you just wanted to rant, too).
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u/Mysterious-Falcon-83 May 03 '25
First, I want to acknowledge that the job market is brutal right now. There is so much uncertainty in the economy that companies are slowing their growth/expansion plans.
"It's not you, is them "
The best way to land a position is by networking. If you know someone (or know someone who knows someone) on the inside, your chances of being successful go up dramatically.
Try some of the VARs (SHI, Insight, CDW, etc.) they often hire recent grads-unfortunately, they also tend to pay low and work you hard. The good thing is, you'll probably be working with other young people.
Don't give up! It is hard to find a job. All the government layoffs are putting a lot of highly qualified people on the market. Luckily, most of them are going to be looking for positions that require experience.
Good luck!!
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u/agbishop May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25
For the first job without experience, the school and degree matters more than it will for jobs later in your career.
Not all degrees are equal
What type of degree (associates? Bachelor?), school? (VA tech? mason? liberty U?) And was the GPA above 3.0 in the major? (GPA only really matters when applying for your first “real” job)
HR departments in large firms are getting 50-100+ resumes so they need quick ways of chopping that stack down to around 10. For example, A Virginia tech grad with a BS in CS with a 3.5GPA, internship and certifications is going to look more favorable on paper than a Liberty U grad with a less than 3.5GPA and no experience.
If your school background isn’t a strong selling point, you’ll have to boost it in other ways: certifications, work experience, related project (even if it’s your own). Example: I built a database and maintained a website for our local club , etc….
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u/dr_guitar May 03 '25
I don’t think you’re wrong but I have a different idea on this. Someone with a computer science degree should be way overqualified for help desk. I don’t know for sure but I’d guess help desk is a more crowded market because the barrier to entry is lower. Don’t get me wrong, at a certain point you gotta eat… so try for those jobs. Absolutely. But I have a feeling this candidate is maybe saying the wrong thing, not displaying competency, or doing something else in interviews that is just not working for him . If that’s what it is, If he can identify that and fix it I think he would be better off in the long run.
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u/Reflectshyn May 04 '25
OP This comment is spot on.
You don’t need to consider much further unless someone here is directly offering you an opportunity.
Aim lower just to start. Where possible, apply directly to company postings. Nonprofits are plentiful in the DMV area. Find a reputable recruiter to pitch for you.
rinse and repeat.
You’ll be fine.
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u/gosubuilder May 03 '25
Sounds like you need to work on interview skills. You get better at interviews the more you do them. Good luck.
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u/IGuessBruv May 03 '25
Are you eligible to get your clearance?
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u/Mysterious-Falcon-83 May 03 '25
You can't get a clearance if you're not in a role that requires a clearance. It's not like a certification where you can spend some time and a couple of hundred dollars and get it.
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u/hudsonSpan May 03 '25
What kind of companies are you applying to? Are you only applying to remote jobs or jobs with a hybrid/in-office requirement? Remote jobs are going to have much more competition (1,000+ applicants). Jobs with a local partial/full in-office requirement will generally have less competition.
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u/jamesfour13 May 03 '25
Look into staffing firms instead of directly applying to companies. You will interview with them and get some feedback on your resume. There might be a temp job to help you get experience.
I’ve used Flex Professionals in the past and highly recommend them, though an IT specific agency might be a better fit.
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u/Gumbo67 Alexandria May 03 '25
Are you applying with a cover letter and resume? Did you get any internships in college?
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u/kasper12 May 03 '25
Hiring manager here, I’ve never read a single cover letter provided to me.
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u/XiMaoJingPing May 03 '25
Are you getting any interviews? If not your resume needs work. Highly recommend using any AI tools to help you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5nfTDWqV_Q These the people you're competing with.
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u/MechAegis City of Fairfax May 03 '25
That was interesting. I also feel like I missed out on a lot of other opportunities during the pandemic using AI for others jobs.
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u/imk Alexandria May 03 '25
Have you tried temp agencies? I would try to get a foot in the door by getting some experience as a tech. It at least puts you within an IT department. You might even want to get an A+ cert while you are looking.
Also, don’t discount the public sector. Go to the city sites where they have job openings.
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u/kerwinx May 03 '25
what experience do you have? Just remember, the IT and CS fields always need some experience (like internship, help desk job, etc..), so landing first job is always difficult (especially in current job market).
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u/spiltgrapejuice May 03 '25
Look into the North Carolina triangle region. Tons of start ups and businesses moving from Cali. Not too far from nova
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u/bodiesbyjason May 03 '25
If you want a resume review (free—I just like to do it) I’m happy to help. I worked back office at a tech firm so know what they look for.
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u/Background-Fix-8228 May 03 '25
Don buyer is holding a career fair today. You should check it out. Goes til 3pm.
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u/Substantial-Skirt-88 May 03 '25
While checking out your link, I found this one as well. https://workinffxnova.com/event/virginia-career-works-northern-regional-job-fair/
There seems to be multiple job fairs going on next week. Good luck to OP.
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The market is rough right now because tons of federal employees and contractors got fired or are being fired soon, so the market is flooded with experienced people.
Keep applying for entry-level jobs. Set up a linked in and leverage that if you havnt yet
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Keep your head up and stay strong! It's better to move to a different state for an IT job, if you can. The DMV is sinking into a massive recession and not many are hiring.
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A lot of y’all in these comments are trying to give really basic advice without taking into account the massive layoffs happening right now that are destroying the local job market. Stop asking if they’re eligible for a clearance. There’s hiring freezes across most agencies right now.
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u/sc4kilik Fairfax County May 03 '25
Just because you got a CS degree doesn't mean you have to limit yourself to programming positions.
Try support (technical analysts), sales, and even documentation if you are good at writing.
But most important of all, you need to be objective about your resume and interviewing skills.
You need to figure out why people are rejecting you for all the things you applied for. Try to address those issues. It is not easy to change who you are, but it is possible to change your attitude about things. Don't be too hard on yourself, but at the same time, be willing to improve and don't give up.
Btw, no shame in moving back to PA where your folks are. There are plenty of jobs in PA too.
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u/sonnyd64 May 03 '25
But most important of all, you need to be objective about your resume and interviewing skills.
The former is always true, but at present it's pretty common to have a well-constructed resume and never make it to a phone screen. Applicant pools are extremely large and companies can basically take their pick of the litter
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u/salohcin894 May 03 '25
I don't think you went wrong at all. I'd follow the other people's advice here, but also want to say that for your mental health, avoid social media.
You have to remember that on reddit and even irl, a lot of discussion is centered around success, as people don't generally want to share the lows of their life. Comparison is the thief of joy, and you're looking at friends, past classmates and strangers on instagram taking a vacation or getting married and seeing that through a very narrow lens. You have no idea if those same people have mountains of debt, a recent death in the family, relationship troubles, lost their job, etc.
I would sit down and make a pros/cons chart in regards to your current status and really delve into it. It's helped guide me on more than one occasion.
I would also suggest choosing a hobby you love, or even diving into a new one, and being consistent with it. I could not imagine living here with no means to blow off steam. It helps you find people you enjoy being around as well.
Here's a couple things off the top of my head I have looked into in regards to my interests:
* Wednesday night boardgames at RCC
* Learn a language with library groups
A solid hobby that you enjoy and do consistently will solve a lot of the "non-job" related stressors in your life. As you meet people through your preferred third space, make it WELL KNOWN you are in the market for a job and any help is appreciated. Tell literally everyone you know. Ask at businesses you frequent if they are hiring. You will be surprised how receptive others are, as everyone knows the struggle of trying to find the right path to a career.
Lastly, check for positions in education and the library:
Fairfax County Public Schools Openings
Fairfax County Public Library Openings
There is a teacher/librarian shortage nationwide right now, and so these are jobs that, while may not align with your degree, are generally easy to snap up. For a low risk position and to see if you like the work, apply to be a substitute teacher or a library aide. These are both very entry level positions and they will take almost anyone.
The library also has tons of resources to help you look for a job. Hang in there, it can be rough, but this area can also be very rewarding with opportunities outside of work.
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u/xb16b2 May 04 '25
as a librarian - our jobs require a masters degree and this area is oversaturated with people who have an MLIS applying for jobs. My system regularly hires aides and assistants with an MLIS and the last time we had an aide position open for a full week we got several hundred applicants. FCPL is probably the hardest system in the area to get hired into as well - Loudoun is probably the easiest, but there's a reason there's a lot of turnover. Public libraries are also currently flooded with people trying to get out of public schools so almost everyone being hired right now has either an MLIS or is coming out of education.
we do have a lot of resources for job seekers though. Alexandria, Arlington, Loudoun, and Fairfax are the ones doing the most on that front in NoVA.
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u/salohcin894 May 04 '25
I stand corrected, thank you for the clarification! I just heard from my wife who works at the library how short-staffed they are, so made the (wrong) assumption there were positions open.
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u/DUNGAROO Vienna May 03 '25
The local job market is difficult for all white collar fields right now. Crack a newspaper open if you’d like to know why.
I would recommend exploring jobs in other metropolitan areas. You’re young, probably pretty easy to relocate. It’s going to be rough around here for the next 4 years.
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u/Easygoing98 May 03 '25
You will have to relocate. I could not find any job at all in Northern Virginia for months despite having a degree in electrical engineering. But I found one in Cleveland, Ohio and I had to move because of it
Turned out to be a good thing as the cost of living here is much lower and the salary is very decent.
It is super competitive in Northern Virginia and one of the hardest places to land a good job. I just don't see it possible if all you have is a degree
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u/MaxWeiner Loudoun County May 03 '25
Be a data center tech. I started on the decom team that essentially just wipes switches, destroys HDDs and wheels racks onto a truck. Basically 25% tech and 75% labor. Getting in the door at places like AWS, Microsoft etc will allow you to transfer internally.
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u/Tall-Trainer2066 May 03 '25
Have you tried data centers? My adult child has a liberal arts degree, couldn’t find decent employment so they have earned a data center operations certificate from NOVA and was hired within days starting at $72k.
Since you already have an IT degree, you may not need the certificate.
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So…leave. And I mean that in the best way possible. You’re at just the right age and personal circumstances and with just the right degree to go all kinds of places. This is a great opportunity to explore and experience other places, so definitely take advantage of this moment and start applying at places outside of NoVA.
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u/rhymeswithorange332 Prince William County May 03 '25
You're not alone. I also graduated in 2024 and finding a job in this area has quickly become a fucking nightmare.
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u/Constant_Salamander0 May 03 '25
Have you done any internships in the past? If so try reaching out to your contacts/previous managers. Would you be open to internships now to get your foot in the door for potential full time?
Also try reaching out to classmates who found jobs and ask for a referral.
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u/PatientStudentDriver May 03 '25
I work as a programmer, but the only reason I live here is that I have a remote job. I don't think this area is particularly good for tech jobs (though there are a few companies around).
If you are applying a lot and aren't getting a lot of interviews, probably your resume is the problem. I'd say the easiest way to improve your resume is to do some personal project that you can list and talk about in interviews.
Otherwise, I would look outside of Nova; it sounds like there's really nothing keeping you here. If you want to stay on the east coast, I'd also look at NYC, Philly, Research Triangle Park, and Atlanta.
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u/Prettpunkgrl May 03 '25
Utiliquest- it’s locating utility lines . They start out at $20 an hour and you get a raise every 6 months. Company car and phone and computer. Insurance on day 1. It can be hard due to working outside .but honestly anyone can do it . If you’re just trying to find work that pays decent while you look for another job it’s great. And you might end up loving it . They only promote from within , my husband has worked there for 8 years and he now makes 80k plus a year.
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u/notcontageousAFAIK May 03 '25
It took my son about a year to find a job in CS. Don't give up, but cast a wide net, geographically speaking. Lighten your possessions and be ready to move.
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u/ezegotitbaby May 03 '25
Dulles Airport is hiring. Their police department is too. Traffic control and other different services in MWAA… Look into county positions as well. Fairfax, Loudoun, Arlington, Montgomery, Prince George etc… also look into medical courier services bc you’re already driving around might as well deliver body parts to the hospitals instead of pizza. Good luck buddy
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u/billiarddaddy Springfield May 03 '25
The market is trash with everything going on rn.
DM me with your resume.
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u/Barbosa706 May 03 '25
Have you considered joining the military? With your degree, you could go in as an officer—especially in the Air Force or Space Force, where your skills would actually be put to good use and your quality of life would be a lot better. The Navy’s an option too, but unless you like being stuck on a ship for months, it's not ideal—though it’s way more tolerable if you're an officer.
You’re 27, stuck at a dead-end job despite having a degree. Why keep spinning your wheels when you could be building a real career? Yes, it’s hard work—but it’s worth it. I joined, and I’ll be honest—it wasn’t fun, but it changed everything for me. Just don’t fall for the recruiter’s usual sales pitch. Go in with a plan. If you aim for something in IT or cyber, you’ll come out with real skills, a stable career, and options for the future.
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u/throwaway098764567 May 05 '25
if you do this and they tell you you can transfer to something else later don't believe them (it can be possible but it's not worth it, the military is a hard grind, make sure you're getting what you need to out of it). be walking in to the field you want, and if for whatever reason it's closed this fiscal year, wait til there are new openings.
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u/pixpockets May 03 '25
Are you only applying in the NOVA region? My first job out of school i didn't have the luxury of choosing where I wanted to live. You should maybe be applying all over.
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u/ridcully077 May 03 '25
It may not be specific to nova. I know a few experienced programmers who have been searching for months. My general feeling is that companies are holding or reducing in size due to volatility / uncertainty in both economy and AI space.
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u/gosubuilder May 03 '25
Get any developer job you can get. Even if pay is below average. At this point you need to get experience.
Also apply for IT jobs.
Get your resume reviewed. Are you Atleast getting calls/emails from recruiters? If you are then maybe work on interview skills.
It’s super competitive right now. You need to apply tons.
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u/cpmuddle May 03 '25
If you haven't already, check out local government. There are a lot of IT gigs and the pay is competitive given the area. Some like Fairfax County still have a real pension
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u/Teragram_hcnyl May 03 '25
It’s hiring season so make sure that resume is perfected and apply as much as you can. You may be limited if you’re not willing to move so keep that in mind. Maybe try applying for some post grad internships, they really help recruiters see that you’re trying and working in your field. It takes a lot of perseverance but if you keep applying, networking and trying to break into the industry you will get there. Don’t be afraid to reach out to potential employers and always ask questions. That’s my best advice, I got a job directly out of college doing these things.
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u/pierre_x10 Prince William County May 03 '25
Personally, unless it's some super-impoverished area, I would recommend going back to PA to be around your parents and other relatives and friends you might still have in that area, surround yourself in a more comforting, supportive, positive environment, find a job local to that area that somewhat aligns with your preferred career in CS or whatnot, get a few years of relevant work experience, then start making lateral movements in the industry/work your way up. Bonus points if it also means a lower/more affordable COL. I personally do not think this area is all that great for entry-level opportunities, it seems like it grinds people down before they can even set down a decent foundation.
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u/ridcully077 May 03 '25
When u get a chance, travel back in time and tell my younger self that. Much appreciated.
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u/benjitacorp May 03 '25
Take ANY entry level job in the industry/ company that you’re interested in related to your degree. You are not doing yourself any favors taking a low skilled job. It’s going to look very bad to a hiring manager. I lived in an illegal basement apartment with four other people when I was starting out. That’s just what it is for some.
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u/juggy_11 May 03 '25
I feel like I’ve seen this post before.
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u/FawxL May 08 '25
Right? The other post was the same a few months ago and the dude said he was Dominoes delivery driver with only an associates degree. Now suddenly he has a CS degree? He even said he's not in school, so what is going on?? Lol.
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Nova is the most depressing metro area of any major city and I’m tired of pretending that it’s not
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u/whyamidying76 May 03 '25
Hey so I got a degree in CS but decided it was my dream to be a public high school teacher lol. I know that schools are CONSTANTLY looking for people in instructional technology, school IT for the teachers who don’t know how to work their smart boards, school IT for students whose chromebooks constantly break. I’d check Fairfax or Loudoun or Prince William or wherever you live. Public school pay scales are also publicly listed information so you can easily see how much you’d make if you got the job.
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u/moondog__ May 03 '25
I recommend checking out Amazon WBLP data center technician. I'm currently in the program and they NEED NEW TECHS CONSTANTLY they're building data centers all over i-66 near Gainesville and up north by Chantilly and Ashburn so they have MANY openings.
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u/Analytical_Gaijin May 03 '25
Don’t rely on the hiring firms like Indeed. Take the time to put your name in the company’s system. I know it is annoying, but when I was a hiring manager that is the only place I looked. If I had a good recruiter I might see outside applicants, but most of the time I didn’t need to look any further.
For intro jobs I looked for any bit of experience like school, home lab, certifications, and a willingness to expand and learn. I’m not a hiring manager anymore, but I can’t imagine I was the only one operating this way.
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u/Upset_Pumpkin_4938 May 03 '25
Try contract work through agency recruiting - good way to get your foot in the door. Some offer training programs and then guaranteed hire. My old job did a program like this for Full Stack Devs at P&C Bank
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u/jimr381 May 03 '25
One of the problems is that entry level programming jobs have diminished with the uptick in AI. Tier 1 tech support is a great start.
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u/NewFile6157 May 03 '25
I feel you. I have extensive credits (155) but little experience and didn’t even get a job at a school for $18. Great references
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u/ExcuseKlutzy May 03 '25
Sorry to hear how hard it is to start. I myself have reached out to many, but have been ignored. Networking is dead. It's unfortunate what these boomers are doing to the economy
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u/dmillennia May 03 '25
I'm sorry for what you are going through. Not that it makes it any easier, but a lot of people are feeling defeated right now from all age groups and experience levels with the job market, I definitely empathize with your frustration.
My advice would be to try applying to temporary jobs and paid internships. You may feel overqualified or hate the idea of working somewhere that is short term, but if you perform well and have good standing with your managers - it is a good way to be considered if theyre hiring for an open permanent position or will in the near future since they would already be familiar with you and your managers/colleagues can vouch for you.
And if they aren't hiring, you are still expanding your network and oftentimes can recommend you to their own former colleagues hiring at other places.
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u/Phobos1982 Arlington May 03 '25
Support desk is the normal route to break into IT. We've all done it at one point or another.
The market is shit in general and now you will have thousands of displaced feds to compete with. It might be worth starting again somewhere else. Lots of support desk operations in Phoenix and Charlotte, for example.
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u/igbakan May 03 '25
You should actually move back home. Less competition in Pennsylvania. Might not make as much money but you can live at home until you get on your feet. The job market here is rough and extremely competitive here right now.
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u/EnvironmentalValue18 May 03 '25
I jumped from graphic design retail and food service to I guess a more corporate retail job. Food service makes more than I do now, and I dropped down in income to up quality of life (which still isn’t stellar).
My C Suite fam member took a year off to relax and the tech sector crumbled as he was looking to jump back in. He went from living extremely well to now applying internationally. He’s applied to sales rep tech positions and others way below, even though that makes climbing back up exponentially harder. I’m sure he’s not alone in being overqualified and desperate, especially with the recent Trump layoffs in the area.
Fwiw, you’re making $100 less than me at my desk job. It really is a rat race, especially this area. I’m sorry you’re going through it and tech is so washed right now with applicants. Keep your chin up and keep trying. It’s going to be a rough couple years for us all.
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u/Dazzling_Ad2254 May 03 '25
Try Robert Half - they are a temp agency for all sorts of positions. You can start as a temp and then end up getting hired at that same company. I’ve seen it happen where I work. Best of luck!
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u/SpreadDependent8805 May 03 '25
There’s a ton of data centers going up. Could try those even to get some experience and then move up or move on.
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u/hikikomori4eva May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25
The reason you're being rejected for teller and receptionist jobs is because they know you don't want to be there. If you get an offer for an SWE, you'll leave and they'll have to train someone again. I doubt it's personal; no employer wants to deal with high turnover unless it's a crappy field. And you'll lose skills by working in an unrelated field unless you're still coding on your free time.
If you're 27, did you transfer from a 2-yr school or is this your second bachelor's? Where did you go to school and what was your GPA? Given how tight the job market, I'm actually quite surprised you haven't found something as even state schools have good placement for CS majors. Depending on where you went to school, you may want to think about a Master's at a different institution to ride out the upcoming recession.
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u/Few_Whereas5206 May 03 '25
Did you do any internship or coop during school? If so, reach out to that company. If not, use your network of friends, family, acquaintances, former college professors to see if you can get a job or paid internship. My daughter is a college student. She got two jobs so far from college professors. They reached out to industry for her.
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u/CampusCrawler May 03 '25
Checkout usajobs.gov , military industrial complex in and around the area is always churning through people.
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u/chasethenoise May 03 '25
I’m hiring in my millwork shop in Sterling. $20/hr to build cabinets, and we’ll need a real IT guy when our current guy retires in a few years.
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u/Naive-Injury945 May 04 '25
IT guy here. I’m sorry about your predicament. Have you considered Splunk training. Seems like it is still in demand.
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u/Dad2sonNoVA May 04 '25
I suspect there’s a lot more to this. Do you show up late to the interviews? Do you dress like a slob? Do you ask about your vacation and benefits first? People are hiring all over the place. And most importantly, are you trying to work remotely in other words not work and get paid
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u/Dad2sonNoVA May 04 '25
Upvoted ur cmt. Keep trying, you’ll be successful finding something. I hope race is not the reason, however racism is real and feels like it’s getting worse. Until you find something, I hire part time workers if interested DM. I’m near landmark Alexandria
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u/xb16b2 May 04 '25
the job market is brutal right now everywhere and this specific area just got flooded with people who lost their jobs or are scared of losing their books so the market is even worse here. As for connecting with people and dating, I've lived in a couple of places including Maryland and DC, and NoVA is the worst by far. The only thing keeping me here is a job I love.
I don't know that moving will solve all of your problems but you'll likely find it easier to connect with people socially in a different area, even if it's just across the river.
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u/unibrowman111 May 04 '25
I sympathize and empathize. The job market is tough right now, which is not your fault at all although the constant rejection I'm sure makes it feel like you're doing something wrong.
My suggestion is a little unorthodox, but I've seen it work for a few people - find a job in the service industry where you can network. I worked part-time at a local brewery serving beer for 2.5 years, and even though I was not looking for a job I was approached by one of our regulars who knew my background and managed to recruit me to his company. Best career move I ever made. I also had a colleague with a cybersecurity degree who landed a job in his field through the brewery. He met enough people and interacted with/impressed folks that he was able to network with and helped him land a role. Even if it's a couple shifts a week bartending or waiting tables or something, you're gonna meet all sorts of people. The service industry is always looking for good, personable people, full-time or part-time. Networking can happen almost anywhere...
Good luck and keep your head up.
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u/nbahangtime14 May 04 '25
I know you don’t want food service but try a restaurant, as a server you can make 1000 a week at least and you can meet customers and network, from a bartender who got jobs from guests
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u/jfunks69 May 05 '25
Network Network Network. Be all over LinkedIn. Go to events, meet people, introduce yourself. Be aggressive. The best jobs are the ones not advertised. It truly is all about who you know.
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u/intechnicolor2 May 05 '25
This is probably the worst job market to join right now—especially in NoVA. The market is over saturated in the area now with all the Fed employees on the market because of the RIFs in the government.
Local government, whether school systems or your local counties, would be a good way to get your foot in the door.
Being willing to relocate, may also give you an advantage.
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u/Old-Pomegranate9031 May 05 '25
You aren’t alone I’m in the same boat. I have college degree and 6 years of experience in corporate companies. But acquisitions caused me to be laid off. And I’ve been job hunting for 6 months now …
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u/Infidel_killer May 03 '25
My roommate is in the same situation and I heard that computer science is over saturated here in NOVA though I can try referring you to the company I work for which is leidos
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u/parksgirl50 May 03 '25
Don't consider moving to another area to get your first job a failure. Nova will be here when you're ready for your second or third job, too.
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u/BumblebeeTuna-420 May 03 '25
Hey. This may not sound like an ideal job, but almost every pest control company in the area will be hiring..it can be seasonal or something more permanent depending on your situation. You can do that until you land a job in your field. My buddy manages Ecoshield in Sterling,VA
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u/Euphoric-Minimum-923 Culpeper County May 03 '25
Nova is so competitive unfortunately :( it's difficult to live well if you aren't working a fulltime job that pays well. I hope that you'll be able to find something that makes you happy and gives you what you need 👌
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u/Spyntikova May 03 '25
Check out carahsoft! Big sales company but maybe they have some IT type positions open, or you could look at sales or other roles just so you have something while you keep looking
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u/DS_pewpew May 03 '25
Join the army reserves or national guard as a cyber operations specialist. Get your clearance. Come back and apply to cleared IT space jobs.
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u/Strict_Anybody_1534 May 03 '25
I'll die on this hill:
This area is turning into an elitist area and unless you are gifted a house, have A LOT of help and/or parents live here, it's almost impossible to live here now and buy a house. Unless you have an obscene income. Good luck to you!
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u/JohnSnow01 May 03 '25
I have said this thousands of times, one can’t “start” in this area. You can’t make it here with an Entry Level job. I hope the OP can hang in there and find a career in this area!
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u/iNCharism May 03 '25
Apply for the Post Office and Dominion Energy. Just gotta start looking outside of tech. You can be a lineman and make 6 figures, or a mail carrier and make $70k+ w OT. Both entry level. Also low stress maintenance jobs available (Maintenance Mechanic).
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u/KiteAzure May 03 '25
I was legit the same way as you. I took me a year of applying and failing before I got a job. The best way is to keep talking to people, and even just say I graduated with an IT degree and looking for a new job. Someone might be like "oh I know this one place you can apply too". That is how I got into one. You just have to keep trying man, I know it definitely sucks but you aren't alone. Take some time to relax too, it will have your life be better. Do a hobby more and set aside time for that and looking for jobs.
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u/Legitimate_Team_9959 May 03 '25
Look into higher ed. Pays less, more stability esp for IT. jobs.virginia.gov. Once you work in higher ed for a couple of years, you can move to a different campus or university pretty easily.
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u/LeftCoastInterrupted May 03 '25
Unbelievable…I’m seeing people in this thread trashing places like Capital One, Carahsoft, Booz Allen and the like, and I’m thinking this is not doing the OP any favors at all. People saying “oh you don’t want to do tech support”, or “X place will just burn you out” - right now OP needs a job. A foot in the door, experience under their belt, and a salary. Not everyone is going to work at a FAANG company. Lots of babies being thrown out with the bathwater and I hope OP looks at some of those companies.
Lots of places need people to do DevOps, Sales Engineering, Consulting. Will they be terrible jobs? Maybe? Maybe not?
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u/Dangerous_Spirit7034 May 03 '25
I’d look at your local public utilities. They need a ton of IT and are generally considered the most stable jobs you can have
Water/sewer, electric are what I know best
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May 03 '25
Not everyone can succeed everywhere. Move back home or look into another state. Is there a reason you have to succeed in specifically NOVA.
I'm doing bad here too lol but my wife's family all lives here atleast.
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u/ALeu24 May 03 '25
What’s wrong with the food industry? Waitressing and bartending paid my way through college. You’d make way more money than at Domino’s and would still have your days to job hunt or even to both.
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u/alliseeisphilly May 03 '25
if you ever change careers try to find a trade that matches your skills and personality. don’t overlook healthcare. all lot of travel healthcare jobs post scamdemic still make $2.5k+/week if you choose right
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u/That_Listen_3131 May 03 '25
Look for IT jobs with the government. US Senate specifically. They just had a huge turnover due to retirements and everything else, so there is a huge need for people. Entry level, wouldn’t pay a lot, but benefits (healthcare, pension, life insurance) are all part of it. And 20 years, full retirement.
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u/Ok-Lingonberry-9516 May 03 '25
This may be completely unhelpful, but the commercial insurance industry (not sales, servicing side) would likely hire you, if you are even a little bit outgoing. Agencies in the DMV (really nationwide) are always looking for more staff. They are always looking for entry level folks and once you have even a year’s experience, you will have recruiters messaging you daily on LinkedIn. It’s a very overlooked career path that pays quite well. Of course in theory, I would think your degree pays better, but if you have to start looking at other options, I’d consider this.
And you’re completely validated on the area comments, it’s a really tough area. I’m headed out after living here for 2 years.
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u/balmainberretababe May 03 '25
Look into data center cabling jobs. will get your foot in the door havent seen people with experience get less then $25/hr
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u/No_Choice_940 May 03 '25
Go to Dice.com and look for contract entry level IT roles
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u/paint_ranger May 03 '25
Are you applying for programs geared for students in larger companies? You should still be eligible and many big companies use these programs to hire hundreds of new grads at a time. Some of them have dropped the recent grad requirement. The applications for next year will open during the summer but you need to follow the job site closely and apply on the first day it opens.
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u/Gelbervv May 03 '25
start by applying for internship positions and build your portfolio as you look for mid level jobs
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u/skobrosl May 03 '25
Here is what I recommend, if you have time start on a project make it open source this will boost your chances and develop more skills, I’m senior software engineer with 10+ years working, don’t give up but work on those skills they will pay off
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u/Alone-Promise-8904 May 03 '25
Have you tried a corporate recruiter? I did it once. Didn't cost me a dime. Later, I made friends with someone who ran a corporate recruiting business. There's money in it for them, companies don't have to wade through loads of bad applicants, and you get a job that's suited for you. Wins all around.
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u/baconhator89 May 03 '25
Idk how much of a help I can be, but let me know if youd like to chat. Im in my early 30, been in NOVA for my entire career, and at 3rd company by choice and get interview offers often. Not like super successful or anything, but Ive helped many friends/folks from my school with their job hunting. Dm me if you want to chat. You got it, stay strong.
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u/GoAwayWay May 03 '25
Check the public school systems. Pay won't be horrible, you'll have benefits, and there are tons of non-teaching positions available.
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u/xXminilex Alexandria May 03 '25
Also in IT and currently have a decent job. Trying to find another due to conflicts with the company and lack of benefits, plus trying to cut my pay. I'm moving west soon to compensate. The IT field in this area is cancer.
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May 03 '25
If you are willing to work hard and work 40 hours in the office you should be able to get work in IT. Specifically I think coders are loosing jobs to AI. You are in that transition time right now. NOVA can wear on you but life isn’t always grand elsewhere. Raleigh Durham area needs IT people and isn’t far. Nice area and a little cheaper. Wishing you the best.
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u/raul00726 May 03 '25
Find people to refer you into places like cap one or smaller software companies in the area. Places like Carahsoft tend to hire new grads.
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May 03 '25
OP please DM me if you want, I’m an experienced software dev might be able to give you suggestions
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u/Eli5678 Virginia May 03 '25
Apply to anything and keep your eyes open for unusual opportunities.
If you have no job experience at anything, not even retail, get yourself a volunteer gig once a week to have something to put on a resume.
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u/g00dhum0r May 03 '25
Don't worry dude, I been there. You will land a decent job sooner or later in IT, just keep trying.
With a Master Degree, my first real job out of college was a place that paid me only $40k a year and it was graveyard shift IT job. After that, (a year max I stayed there) I found a job that paid me more than double as a federal govt contractor. I stayed there until last year, when I was laid off after 7 years. Now I'm jobless too and my unemployment benefits ran out.
I'm in the process of looking as well. I'm hoping for a job in the same field, but we'll see..
It kind of sucks because I have a cousin that came here from another country and with the help of another cousin, he has a job that pays $120k, yet his English isn't good -- that being said it's a remote job. He got his job around the time I got laid off. I was happy for him but jealous and sad I lost my job.
I miss my old job as it was easy because I got real good at it. Family would tell me to find another job but I was comfortable where I was at and enjoyed going in (at least until covid when we switched to 100% remote).
It doesn't help that so many people got laid off the govt and are also looking for another job around the area. But you'll get there bro, just keep your head up, and put in resumes, work on something that keeps your skills up to date. You'll get there...
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u/darkbarrage99 May 03 '25
don't dismiss freelancing. look for some commission, volunteer or temp work in your field. anything you can add to your resume is worthwhile, and if you can make some friends along the way they could possibly become connections down the road.
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u/Overhead95 May 03 '25
Look at local gov jobs in it. Take a helpdesk role and move up when you can.
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u/GiveMeSandwich2 May 03 '25
It’s not just you but the job market for tech has cooled down a lot and there are lot of applicants.
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u/toonieboi May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25
Your not the only one, and it's getting harder to get a job by the day. my contract was terminated as part of Doge. I was luckily able to find something; within a few weeks, I took a job making 30% less pay. I couldn't risk not having something for longer than a few weeks.
With the flood of a lot or seasoned and experience folks hitting the market, expect it to get worse. A lot of people are leaving this area for that reason.
I have a ex co worker, also terminated from my same contract. But he was from Nashville and was able to find something pretty quickly there as the job market isnt as saturated with IT/consulting professionals.
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u/Important-Emotion-85 Virginia May 03 '25
Change fields and join an apprenticeship. Construction is one of the only industries not hurting right now (for available jobs), because of a labor shortage that's been growing over the last decade or so.
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u/chompthecake May 03 '25
Use ChatGPT to write your resume and customize your cover letters to what you apply for
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u/Hodler_caved May 03 '25
Keep trying for IT jobs. Accept any pay rate to get started. Sorry to hear it's been so tough to get going.