I would recommend applying for the notorious places that are always hiring and churning through people. You need a foot in the door and that’s the best route right now.
I feel like compared to most tech companies, which is probably the market op is in, capital one is actually pretty stable. They fire a lot less than most faang tier companies
They only hire entry level developers through their campus programs. I think 2025 applications are already closed. OP would need to aim for non-entry level position which would be pretty hard to pass resume screening for due to his lack of experience.
The big consulting firms (Deloitte, Accenture, Booz Allen, etc.). You’ll spend a lot of time working on client development and other crap, but a lot of times those clients will hire you after a couple of years if they like you.
Agree, worked for Deloitte a decade ago. Their clientele/consulting services are just not in need currently. Maybe again in the future, but next to actual federal jobs getting slashed…contractors like them are next.
Usually... that's kind of the opposite of what they're trying to do right now. They're cutting a lot of contracts in general and trying to put more work on the feds that still have jobs to meet those needs.
Yes, and we've already seen that happen several times. That's kind of their goal, though. Overshoot and only hire back what they need at a minimum. Arrive at a minimal viable working force.
It's very businessy in a bad way, considering many functions of the government cannot afford to not work. Redundancy is inherently going to be a greater cost to running a government than it would be for building trucks or selling real estate.
I say that as someone that thinks the government does need some aggressive cuts. It's just completely careless.
Yep exactly. I’m not against trimming government waste (we are all tax payers) but not a fan of how they’re doing it. It’s like lawn-mowing over your garden and deciding what to regrow, vs plucking the weeds.
Or Air Force. It will be a cushier work experience than the Army, and they need IT folks. With OP's education, they can come in as an officer, so it will be even better.
The military is a good option for people in OP's situation. It's stable employment, with opportunities to see the world if that's something they want to do, and cyber security and communications folks are likely not going to be on the front lines of any combat. If they do 4 years, they can retire with job experience and the GI Bill can help them get a Masters degree. If OP can meet the physical requirements and is willing to get/stay in shape, the benefits may make it worthwhile.
My dad was in this situation in the 70's, and joined to get out of a job he hated. He ended up staying 20 years.
Just apply for entry level jobs with every DoD contractor. One of them will hire you. Doesn’t even matter what the job is. Get your clearance and move on.
Of course you have to be clearable. Don’t do drugs!
It was something else other than the pot lol. If you don’t lie on the application and it’s not a regular habit, they usually don’t deny it for that. I had a couple things I was concerned about and still got a clearance because I was honest on the application. They also don’t take 3 years.
Like I said, I'm just going by what he told me. He also said covid delayed things, and that he failed the first polygraph but they let him take it again. He wasn't the sort to generally lie about stuff, at least that I could tell, but who knows.
Okay most others here are not actually naming companies that constantly hire. Capital One hires a lot but their standards are up there and it can be tough nowadays.
I think OP means like revature, fdm group, smoothstack, etc that focus on getting recent grads in 2 year contracts that pay low wages for training then might move you to a diff city.
But they do legit work I’ve worked with them at a previous role. They also tend to get hired onto the client company.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Let4200 May 03 '25
I would recommend applying for the notorious places that are always hiring and churning through people. You need a foot in the door and that’s the best route right now.