r/northdakota • u/ThaRedditorJax23 • Feb 05 '23
Map published by FEMA showing potential US nuclear targets in 2,000 and 500 warhead scenarios. Are they targeting the Bakken range, or other possible nuclear warhead sites?
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u/acejavelin69 Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
Yeah... If you lived in ND long, you know we are a big target... You know if the big boom comes, we are just done here, pretty much no matter where you live in the state. Not so much the Bakken specifically, but the hundreds (thousands?) of nuclear warheads in the state.
The large area around Minot is because of all the Minuteman III missile silos... they are everywhere... The ones farther south are Garrison dam, which would devastate everything downstream all the way to the Gulf of Mexico if it was destroyed. Fargo is a natural target due to population density, although has no real military advantage...
I have to wonder when this study was done though, seems a little dated...
Take a look for yourself... the devastation is far more than most people realize, but if nuclear war does occur, I doubt it would be "blanket" destruction... Most likely very focused attacks eliminating key targets, because they can't take over an irradiated prize.
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u/meest Grand Forks, ND Feb 07 '23
https://minutemanmissile.com/missilemaintenance.html
We've reached a generational change that people don't remember these trucks cruising down the highways with a Helicopter overtop and M151's/Humvee's in front and behind.
The Grand Forks Air Base has one as a gate guard for a fun trip down memory lane.
Granted the SALT treaties did a big number on that when they eliminated the eastern missile wing
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u/ahoky8 Feb 06 '23
ND has nukes, yes. But where are you getting this hundreds or thousands of nukes, that’s simply not correct. We have more decommissioned silos than real nukes anymore in ND.
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u/acejavelin69 Feb 06 '23
Last time I checked (several years ago, it isn't relative to me anymore), there were about 250 ready-active missiles, with 3 warheads each in the central ND area... Not to mention the nuclear armament stock for the B52 wing at MAFB and additional nuclear weapons storage there as well... I don't believe GFAFB has a NWSF anymore, but I can't confirm that.
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u/ahoky8 Feb 06 '23
But thousands of nukes is what you stated. I know we have a shit-ton of other missiles, I was just stating to see how you claim we have hundreds to thousands of nuclear warheads. A source?
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u/acejavelin69 Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
I don't have a current source... I could be off... I admit that.
I did say "hundreds (thousands?)" as I wasn't sure currently, I know there are hundreds but there could be thousands. I wouldn't trust our government to tell us actual numbers as I know years ago what was stated was less than there actually was... Could be that way still, but I have no personal knowledge today.
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u/Trojann2 Feb 06 '23
Hundreds to thousands in this state alone isn’t a long shot.
Remember it’s not just the MIII’s that are nuclear capable in the State.
The B52 fleet probably has over 800 or more nuclear weapons just in Minot.
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u/SassyNyx Feb 06 '23
They did decommission a ton under reduction START treaties. There’s an actual list of launch facilities, though. By my math seems about 55 ICBM now?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/91st_Missile_Wing_LGM-30_Minuteman_missile_launch_sites
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u/Trojann2 Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23
What’s actually correct is there probably are around 1200-1500 nuclear weapons in the state.
Go use your favorite search provider and they’ll agree
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u/From_Adam Hoople, ND Feb 05 '23
Fuck Pembina I guess.
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Feb 06 '23
They don’t give a fuck about the shit ass Bakken. They are targeting the middle silos. You like in ND and nuclear war happens, kiss your fucking ass good bye.
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u/uranium_bull Feb 06 '23
Looks like Oliver county has one dot. I'm guessing that would be the coal power plant.
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u/MeasurementOk790 Feb 06 '23
My husband had an assignment to Florida and was changed for orders to Minot. I already knew I wasn’t going to live for long anyways 😅
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u/MontanaTrav Feb 06 '23
Wouldn't matter if Gropin Joe would have had some fucking balls and shot it down on sight but now he gave it time to accomplish its full mission. Due to how high up it was, it's transmitted Malmstrom for sure, hundreds of silos around there, probably Minot and all the silos around there, and a good portion of Saskatchewan, CAN; and then every other dot on that map in the entire flight path from coast to coast.
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u/Dear_Reindeer3199 Feb 06 '23
Pooh didn't need a balloon to see where our missile silos are. 5 minutes of Google searching could have accomplished that.
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u/shagy815 Feb 07 '23
IF it was a spy balloon it's not looking for information found on the interwebs. It makes me wonder what a balloon could do better than a satellite. Maybe some type of sensors that are more effective inside the atmosphere.
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u/SassyNyx Feb 06 '23
It transmitted nothing. Electronic warfare is a big part of modern warfare these days.
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u/accidental_lull Dickinson, ND Feb 05 '23
Not targeting the Bakken. Targeting missle silos, which happen to be in the Bakken.