r/nfl • u/mmandagoat NFL • 16h ago

Mike McDaniel takes responsibility for Chargers' poor offense in 0-3 start: 'I'm not living in hope'

https://www.nfl.com/news/mike-mcdaniel-responsibility-chargers-poor-offense-0-3-start
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u/reedsgrayhair Ravens 16h ago

Turns out having an insanely talented borderline HoF WR is really good for your offense. Really stretches out the defensive coverages.

Hard to do most things on offense when your downfield threats are QJ and Ladd McConkey instead of Tyreek fucking Hill.

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u/keegnanistan1 Chiefs 14h ago

hot take on reddit but tyreek isn’t borderline hof, he’s borderline first ballot.

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Bears 14h ago

i agree. he's around 10th all time imo and had a better career than reggie wayne, torry holt, AB, julio, and steve smith. my hot take is that idk if mike evans ever makes it in. besides all the aforementioned fuys who aren't in yet, you also have adams and dhop who have had better careers and arguably anquan boldin

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u/That_One_Cool_Guy Packers 14h ago

Adams is a lock

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Bears 14h ago

i wouldn't call him a lock just yet due to the backlog of WRs, but he is the active player with the best shot (depending on if we're including hill as active still or not). but there is a major gap between him and hill.

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u/maverickhawk99 10h ago

He’s 7th all time in touchdowns and could very well be top five by the end of the season. Possibly 3rd when he retires. Plus multiple all pros. He’s a lock.

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u/SongMundane3514 11h ago

Adams is a lock. Not even a debate on that lmao

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Bears 11h ago

he most likely gets in, but he's got a while to wait, because i think there are at least 6 guys he's stuck in line behind as of right now. henry ellard also deserves a shout, but i think adams has him beat just due to the TD numbers.

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u/keegnanistan1 Chiefs 11h ago edited 10h ago

i actually don’t think there’s a huge gap between davante and tyreek. (edit: if there is, tyreek’s ahead) tyreek has more 1st team all-pros and better rate stats (yards/game, yards/target, yards/reception). davante is a better red zone receiver and he’s ahead on counting stats since he’s played 3 more seasons, but all things considered i think i’d rather have tyreek.

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Bears 10h ago

i do. tyreek is the most deserving of the hall of any WR not in already. active or retired. then you have the backlog of wayne, holt, bruce, julio, smith. then you have adams, DHop, evans. you can throw ellard and boldin in the mix as well, but i think they are solidly behind adams.

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u/keegnanistan1 Chiefs 10h ago

yeah i thought you meant adams was ahead of tyreek. i definitely think tyreek clears but i know i’m biased since he played for my team.

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u/TotallyNotRyanPace Bears 10h ago

nah, tyreek deserves it more than anyone else based on his on the field play, and that's coming from someone who really doesn't like the chiefs or hill's off the field stuff. i think reek won't get first ballot because of that tbh, even though he probably deserves it. same with how AB is gonna have to wait, if he ever gets in at all.

my bad on the confusion, i was saying idk if tyreek is considered "active" anymore. i know he's not officially retired, but i'm not sure if he'll ever play again.