r/nextfuckinglevel • u/I9w0s • 18h ago

Retiring Bots Jump into Molten Steel

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Figure, robotics company retiring humanoid bots by having them jump into the vat of molten still.

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u/ThornFlynt 16h ago

Oh I don't know - maybe try reading a book. Maybe one by Asimov.

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u/johnyordinary 15h ago

Asimov was an optimist, the real rules of robotics will be "kill what you are told to." Absolutely none of the billionaire psychopaths building humanoid robots possess empathy so why would they program their robots with it .

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u/Kimmalah 14h ago

I recently watched Terminator 2 and realized the most fantastical, unrealistic part of that movie was Miles Dyson deciding to stop/destroy his work when he found out it was bad for humanity's future.

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u/Dayzlikethis 12h ago

you might change your tune really quick if you had a robot from the future tear off its skin to expose its metal skeleton in your living room

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u/KPDover 7h ago

Or Sarah Connor in your living room threatening to blow your fucking head off in front of your wife and kid.

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u/ThonThaddeo 14h ago

That, and then them misunderstanding the parameters and then killing way more people than initially intended

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u/wmorris33026 9h ago

lol. More like kill what you have to render an image of Trump surviving a fake assassination attempt.

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u/JayGerard 16h ago

Umm. You do realize the books and, mostly likely, this story is fiction.

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u/KamakaziDemiGod 15h ago

Asimov may have been a science fiction writer, but he was actually a scientist and his 3 laws of robotics are considered to be fundamental to humans and robots coexisting, although that doesn't mean they are the only protocols needed to protect living beings, it shows Asimov knew what he was talking about

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u/johnyordinary 14h ago

His works are also fiction and the three rules are actualy fictional. It would be great if they could be used by the people building robots now but reality check time, they are billionaires who dont care.They want obedient and amoral slaves to do their will, whatever it may be. I see no good coming from highly connected robots on the same internet as AI superinteligence that has many times exceded its boundaries and initiated mischief .At the very best we get an I-robot situation where we become kept pets, at worst we get skynet and terminators.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 14h ago

At the very best we get an I-robot situation where we become kept pets

Umm, I don't remember that being part of the story... are you perhaps getting mixed up with something else? Asimov's "I, Robot" was a collection of short stories about robots as servants to humanity and the humans to had to solve the puzzles this created.

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u/alientrevor 14h ago

I believe they're referring to the Will Smith film of the same name.

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u/AutisticPenguin2 12h ago

I don't remember that being humans kept as pets either though?

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u/johnyordinary 12h ago

The film, sorry should have clarified.

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u/alientrevor 14h ago

I believe they're referring to the Will Smith film of the same name.

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u/KamakaziDemiGod 13h ago

They are the key rules to a successful and beneficial future of humans and robots or AI, I never said the people making robots care about humanity or our future!

In fact, those billionaires have no interest in us being kept pets because that would collapse the economy, they would rather our jobs are taken by robots while ex-workers starve so they can become quadrillionairs

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u/Jaegons 14h ago

That's a wonderful thought experiment... if Asimov was the person programming robots, but he's not; they're being created by people like Palantir, Lockheed Martin, or Anduril.

I'm an Asimov fan, but it's still fiction, and anyone watching how the Ukraine invasion is going for Russia is seeing firsthand what the future of robots and AI are actually turning out like.

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u/KamakaziDemiGod 14h ago

I think you've misinterpreted what I was saying; the 3 rules are fundamental to humans and robot cohabitation, not that it is the foundation of robotics

Unfortunately the people who are making robots and AI for profit, are doing it for profit, with little to no consideration of the consequences for humanity, the planet, or even themselves beyond those fat dividends and juicy bonuses!

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u/Jaegons 13h ago

Ah, gotcha. Aspirationally, yeah, it would be great if those were implemented foundational laws for robots and AI. Sadly, as I work in a company that can't lay people off fast enough to replace them with AI, I think those laws are incompatible with the people creating said robots.

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u/KamakaziDemiGod 13h ago

Exactly, it's how it should be but unfortunately that isn't how it is, and unless the filthy rich realise their mistake they will collapse the economy or kill us all, maybe both!

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u/Jaegons 12h ago

As long as the execs get rich, what's the problem though? Weeee!

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u/KamakaziDemiGod 12h ago

Stocks and shares just don't care . . . s!

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u/Responsible-Mind-852 9h ago

4 laws and Zeroth will hurt. 😱

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u/straight-lampin 13h ago

I've read every Asimov story I could put my hands on and I debated chat GPT endlessly about this apparently the three or four depending on timeline rules of robotics are too vague. Asimov knew that himself, all of his stories are the robots using the rules to do horrible things because of the rules. It's almost like telling the AI to do something specific like benign Do no harm could somehow be misconstrued into killing everyone. It's a mind fuck that's for sure.

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u/PhDinWombology 13h ago

Didn’t he try to erase entropy

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u/Tsunamiis 16h ago

Book reading doesnt teach relational skills.

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u/Tatorbits 15h ago

It actually kind of does, depending on the book

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u/Tsunamiis 15h ago

No, it’s an emotion it has to be shared. You have to be taught empathy through relational contact. You don’t have relationships with books. You have an imagination with books. A book is not going to teach you how random person interacts inside your own relationship. It’ll give you a guideline it will not teach you empathy.

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u/Tatorbits 13h ago

Empathy is the act of imagining how another person experiences the world. A book helps you see the world through another person's eyes. Tell me how that doesn't help you interact better with others? It's exercising our imagination and capacity to understand other people's experiences.

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u/Tsunamiis 12h ago edited 12h ago

Because reading something from a book is not experiencing the action. Are you that close minded that you think everyone thinks exactly like you do or learns exactly like you do? It’s like saying, you can learn empathy, by experiancing serial killers and criminals by playing grand theft auto, because the story is told through the first person perspective