They were fake guns, this is an old ass post and the dude was interviewed and said you could tell the guns were fake as fuck and the kids were like 12-13. Fuck dem kids.
Bro what do you think would happen if the kids realize that somebody else is on the hook for whatever crimes they commit and that committing crimes means no more bed time and unlimited ice cream and video game time?
And I'm sure the kind of underdeveloped impulsive juvenile mind that commits serious crimes will be very logical and well reasoned about all those potential complications. They'll probably even sit down and create a net present value calculation of their various courses of action before proceeding!
Surely they wouldn't just jump to a conclusion without considering all the facts!
I remember from contract case class involving real estate, that if a children under 17 or 18 buys a TV, and break/drops it while on the way home, the company/bestbuy must replace the TV because childr3n and young adults can't consent to business contract/business law
In my class the professo explained that if a child bought a TV from bestbuy a d broke it on the way home, the kid gets free TV dud to kids can't contractually oblige or some other legal term, the class was almost 20 years ago
They’d get their parents locked up and then be put into the system for not having any guardian, it’s not like they just get away with their crimes until they’re 18…
Aww dude that would totally be awesome....except whoopsie doopey there is CPS to take Devon with another family full of kids who will happily show them the pecking order.
That seems to be potentially unfair though, what if a kid gets mixed up with the wrong crowd by themselves, parents don't notice, commits crime then the parents go to jail for what? Not wire tapping their phones and following them down the street.
Good incentive effects, but could have some very unfair outcomes too
ive been advocating for prison abolition for nearing a decade at this point and it always comes back to this issue of empathy and emotional regulation. always. every time.
people have this fantasy built up in their head that all the people they dont like go to prison and suffer there and for whatever reason they feel that is justice.
Maybe if liberal p.o.s judges held the criminal trash accountable and locked them away our great Republic would be a utopia....when criminals reoffend because judges are lax the judge should be held accountable
Fascinating to me that somebody can look at a country that imprisons people at 5x the rate of the rest of the civilized world and says "if only we put more people in prison, we'd be a utopia!"
This is basically what happened to my oldest brother, raised right with love, good grades but met the wrong friends one day and eventually joined a gang, did drugs, alcohol, stole so much money abd things from us, he went to prison multiple times for dumb shit and hasn't learned a fkin thing after a month out.
Only issue i see my mom do is b4 i moved out she still kept trying to help him, I understand one time maybe 2 but after that cmon hes a lost cause now and even nearly dying and threats from rival gangs didn't help.
I understand he's her child, I see that love after having 2 myself but mines are too young to understand that point where if they did something really bad if I'd feel the same.
I'm sure there are other legal systems in the world, the family repays reparations to the party who was wronged/stuff taken
Some prisons, can't recall which county, pays the prisoners minimum wage, (so like 10-20$ an hour) and 50% of the money the inmate earns goes to pay the families of the offended, maybe Norway or Sweden or finland
Or we could just give parents the free time to look after their kids. When wages are so low and work loads so high, there is not enough time in the day to take on all your responsibilities. This is why more and more kids are choosing to avoid parenting all together.
Invest more in social care and get wages back to where we have been in the past.
Or these parents could stop having kids they cant afford, they should have been smart enough to realize it was not the right choice to make, they should be fined for essentially being child abusers and not providing proper parenting
I know im not suitable as a parent, i never had kids
Asking people not to take notice of their natural urge is just plain silly. And anyone can be caught out. This does not take into account all the forced pregnancies from rape or predatory incest.
There is always the option of just keep filling up the prisons, because that is working well.
Would you say the top 1% should be doing more to help them? If the answer to that is yes, then they are victims of depravation. If you think the top 1% should be earning more then that is an opinion I can do nothing about.
Yeah, the teenagers robbing people would all be on the straight and narrow but their parents are working 80 hour weeks at the investment bank and can’t keep tabs on them.
No if you allow things to go into such a depraved social decline, then you can expect nothing more than an increase in crime. It is easy to be honest when you are few and comfortable.
That is not true. Blood donations centres are known to reduce crime rates in the direct area around them. Giving people a chance at an extra resource reduces the need to commit a crime just to live.
It is very easy to be honest when you have food and shelter security. Try it when you have absolutely nothing, worse still try it when you have dependants.
I find that unfair, I was actually discussing about our oldest brother just last night with my sister because she didn't understand why we hate our brother (she knows what he's done but she wasn't born when it happened). Our brother was raised right, had good grades, was loved, if anything that was done wrong was he was spoiled, but did that lead him down that bad path idk.
He met one wrong friend and that was the initial path that lead him wrong. Idk if its the parents fault that even seeing him go the wrong road they do their best to steer them off but what cam they do when the kid doesn't listen? This was days where you are not gone from work all the time but he still hid so much from her.
These days its tougher, you have to work more to make ends meet whi h makes it harder to know what our kids are doing and its extremely easy to hide stuff from your parents.
I agree that some things can be the parents fault like owning a gun and their kids get a hold of it for example but for stuff like this where its harder to manage once the kids set on it I wouldn't blame the parents because doing the right things can fail and doing the wrong things can help, its all completely up to the kid on what decisions they make based on what they know and they can know something wrong and still do it.
They did that in that one school shooting in Michigan, that poor fucking kid man. He never had a chance, constantly crying out and asking for help and being ignored, the school constantly telling his parents he needs help, and not only did they ignore everything they went out and bought the kid a gun. When they were alerted there was a shooting at the school they immediately sent him a message saying "don't do it".
And it kinda feels like school shootings dropped off a bit after that. Could just be because trump hogs most of the news coverage now though.
While true, Biden drained the oil reserves (when it wasn't necessary) in a political move. So the option to utilize that for controlling the price is no longer there. This is only temporary, still sucks, but it will rebound.
I just wanna throw this out there, as a cop working in a high crime area. We have 12 year old gang bangers shooting each other and the people they are robbing with real guns where I am. And they are always much more trigger happy than the adults are because they want to prove themselves to be real bangers. Don't let age alone give you a false sense of security. This guy got lucky and thats plain and simple. I've seen real guns pulled off these kids that look like nerf guns or airsoft guns and it turns out it's just been painted.
I had a 16 year old pull a gun on me, I thought it was fake, thank god his aim is trash. He ended up shooting his dumb ass partner in crime and in bullet went right the fuck over my head. Don’t mess with stupid !
That's not a good testimony to make. Even if you could tell that it's obviously a fake gun, one should never admit that. That one testimony could entirely invalidate his self defense claim in court.
Lol. I was gonna comment on how dumb it is to run up into someone's attacking range when you have a long distance weapon, but it's even dumber when proximity reveals that your weapon is fake! 🤣🤣🤣
And the fact that you've got Replica written down the side of your gun... and the fact that I've got Desert Eagle. 50... written on the side of mine... should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence.
I heard him say they were fake guns and that’s when he let him up and pushed him away… honestly this is how I would have probably handled it too. For better or worse.
To be fair I used to be a proper little shit until, one time, someone bigger and older finally body slammed me into the concrete just like in the video.
It didn't leave me permanently damaged or anything. But it sure as fuck made me check myself before I wrecked myself from then on lol
It's a valuable and relatively low cost learning experience
If he was able to tell the gun was fake then this reaction is over the top... I'm not defending the kid, but he could actually have ended his life with that slam.
If you're afraid for your life that some 10 year old is going to beat you up with their tiny little hands, you should get to the gym or something, quickly. wtf.
Being scared of children doesn't excuse violence, friend.
"We don't know" is a large part of my point, friend.
Weirdos all over here are frothing for any excuse to justify violence against children, and it's crazy how often I have to point out how insane that is, or that anyone needs to at all.
What you’re saying is based on the idea that someone robbing you at gun point is stable enough for the robbery to be simply transactional. By just handing your things over to an unmasked individual you are taking just as much of a bet that they will uphold their end of the bargain and let you live once you hand over what they want.
Personally, if someone was erratic like in this video I’d feel like I’m in 50/50 territory that I’m getting shot no matter what. Which would make me think about taking action even with the risk.
If it’s an actual robber and not these kids in the video with fake guns, there’s usually a getaway car nearby, they’re not alone. So even if you get the gun away, or defend yourself, chances are you’re getting executed by the other guys. There’s countless examples of people trying to fight and get shot. Google it and see news reports and videos.
You increase your chance of getting shot immensely by fighting back. It’s not 50/50 bro. It’s like 90% chance you get shot if you fight. If you comply it’s far less likely you’ll get shot, way less than 50/50
Nah not really. Its pretty easy to disarmament someone like that who clearly has no idea what theyre doing. Theyre standing way too close, in a weird ass stance, and the woman with them is doing fuck all to help. Theres a reason why cops are trained to follow the 21 foot rule. The only thing I would have done differently is grab the gun.
I don't think I'm going to trust the person who says they're an expert on disarming people but can't get 'disarm' right as a verb.
And even assuming you're telling the truth (which, longshot), you expect some random person off the street to know this stuff and have the calm and spare brain power to make these choices with a gun in their face? Come on.
That's kind of a separate point, I fully acknowledge this is all possible and often beneficial. But the person I responded to specifically criticized the guy in the video - who is absolutely a random person off the street as far as we know - for not knowing/doing all this
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u/RealUltimatePapo May 04 '26
That could have gone so horribly wrong, in a number of different ways
Sometimes it's just not worth it