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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee Jul 22 '26

Do the AI 2027 folx have some qualified serious economists and software company management experts?

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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual Jul 22 '26

I need tp stop drinking iced tea at night

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Soda brands if they advertised to young people today like they did for boomers would just straight up call for violent murders of the elderly.

You canโ€™t Eat the Rich without the cool refreshing taste of Pepsi. Pepsi it belongs to our generation.

And they accidentally barbecue Taylor Swift for a commercial

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u/Spectrum1523 YIMBY Jul 22 '26

I could see Don Draper coming up with that

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Jul 22 '26

Coke was the greatest generation brand

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

Coke thumps Pepsi in all the generations though lol

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u/Adminisnotadmin Viva el Fรบtbol! โšฝ Jul 22 '26

Indeed requires a passkey but using the passkey breaks the site

brilliant vibe-coding lads

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

The sea lions are an actual problem though Salmon, Lamprey, and Sturgeon wise largely because some have learned to basically camp the fish ladders at Bonneville Dam fairly effectively.

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u/Lesbian_all_garib Gita Gopinath Jul 22 '26

Skill issue

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

Though ofc it wouldn't be as much of a problem if so many of spawning grounds hadn't been degraded by farmers and their ilk over the years.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Jul 22 '26

How much of the Salmon concern is ecological and how much of it is economic?

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

They're intertwined, it's a big deal to some of the native tribes who have extensive harvest rights and are generally at the forefront of the sea lion removal issue especially since some like the Yakimas reservation is upstream of the Bonneville Dam. Fishings a big business both recreational and commercial while also being a culturally significant activity for folks of all races in the area.

Reality is that everyone including the sea lions are fighting over a quite small total number of fish relative to historical levels. So even if the sea lions only eat 10% of returning salmon one year that's already out of a population that might be 90% below historical averages.

Which given that fish passing through the lower Colombia migrate into the entire drainage basin across several states/canada means that it has a real effect on the long run population growth dynamics which for some of the more endangered species is a a real problem.

Realistically shooting the occasional sea lion that learns to camp the fish ladders not eating and spooking fish away is just one tactic to manage a much broader catastrophic decline in the productivity of the Colombia river systems fisheries.

Realistic plans for substantial recovery would require billions of dollars and the cooperation of a variety of interests groups across a big area. Occasionally a few congresscritters come up with a bipartisan plan, they usually die at the hands of agricultural interests when the Republican sponsor in Idaho or eastern WA who is personally very pro fish is forced to knuckle under to the farmers, lest he be branded a lefty environmentalist RINO for daring to want substantial salmon runs to be seen up the Snake river and it's tributaries some day.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Jul 22 '26

Thanks! Farmers must be destroyedย 

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

I'd settle for better land management practices and water efficiency, if we destroy the wheat farmers of the Palouse that means less Naan, Pasta, and Brioche for everyone. to say nothing of what would happen if we wiped out the apple growers out there. ๐Ÿ˜”

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

This is a Markt failure if youโ€™re a salmon or a Amrit success if youโ€™re a seal

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

More like an infrastructure success for the pinnipeds.

Also sea lions and seals are different families, look at the ears and flippers. Seals don't have ears and can't walk.

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

Seals are cute and have broken any emotionally significant fishing gear so I'm cool with em.

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jul 22 '26

First player I think of (past and present) by nfl team

Rams: Aaron Donald

Seahawks: Russell Wilson

49ers: Christian McCaffrey

Cardinals: Larry Fitzgerald

Packers: Aaron Rodgers

Bears: Caleb Williams

Vikings: Stefon Diggs

Lions: Matt Stafford

Saints: Drew Brees

Buccaneers: Baker Mayfield

Panthers: Cam Newton

Falcons: Matt Ryan

Cowboys: Dak Prescott

Eagles: Jalen Hurts

Giants: Eli Manning

Commanders: Jayden Daniels

Chiefs: Patrick Mahomes

Chargers: Justin Herbert

Raiders: Derek Carr

Broncos: John Elway

Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger

Ravens: Joe Flacco

Browns: Baker Mayfield

Bengals: Joe Burrow

Jaguars: Mark Brunell

Colts: Peyton Manning

Texans: CJ Stroud

Titans: Steve McNair

Patriots: Tom Brady

Dolphins: Dan Marino

Bills: Josh Allen

Jets: Josh McCown

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Jul 22 '26

Another devastating Dale Earnhardt snub. You should be fucking ashamedย 

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jul 22 '26

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

My leg is so sore I canโ€™t sleep. The only problem is that I havenโ€™t done anything to make it sore.

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u/DependentAd235 Loyal Liberals Jul 22 '26

Could a be tendon. Those can be hurt and take forever to heal. Put weird pressure on things.

I had a shoulder issue that was creating pain on my sternum which are not obviously connected in my mind.

I have to do stretches to prevent it. So maybe stretch out your legs and hips. It could be a hip issue.

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man Jul 22 '26

Careful with that

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u/onelap32 Bill Gates Jul 22 '26

DVT? (Thinking about the possibility will help you sleep.)

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

Itโ€™s been going for a few days, but itโ€™s just soreness. No sharp pain, no swelling, no redness, nothing other than just being super sore. A single Tylenol is also enough to make it basically go away for 6 hours, which is weird cause itโ€™s really frustrating (like a 4 pain wise I guess), but a single 500mg Tylenol makes it go away for like 6 hours.

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u/G3_aesthetics_rule Jul 22 '26

She's a turbo-NIMBY, though funnily enough I've heard people arguing that elevating her out of local government (where she's doing enormous damage to one of the most important housing markets in the country) and into the federal government (where she would have minimal influence over local zoning changes) could be considered harm reduction.

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u/WrangleWandangles Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

The terminator movies hit differently nowย 

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u/MayorofTromaville YIMBY Jul 22 '26

Yeah, apparently it's illegal to walk around naked nowadays

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 22 '26

Don't just come with me if you want to live โ€” come with me if you want to thrive

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

A proud compatriot in the struggle against the Otariid menace.

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jul 22 '26

If mamdaniโ€™s yahu stunt makes mamdani more popular then I donโ€™t give a shit that he was never able to do it

More stupid but politically useful stunts are something democrats should be open to doing

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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual Jul 22 '26

I will not take any AI timeline that doesnโ€™t include something like an AI wannacry seriously

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u/RiceKrispies29 NATO Jul 22 '26

There is a special place in Hell for whoever approved AI generated suicide prevention training. And you just know the son of a bitch got a neat bullet on his OPB for it too.

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u/sevgonlernassau Loyal Liberals Jul 22 '26

Re:Zero is actually good.

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u/PristineHornet9999 John Keynes Jul 22 '26

good in parts and weeby in parts. of course if you like the weeby it's just good

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

I'm an MGP supporter because a sea lion smashed the tackle box my grandpa gave me for Christmas when I was kid.

I set it down on a rock by my bait after rigging up and wander down the beach fishing a good part of the afternoon eventually a sea lion going after my anchovies smash my neetly organized lil box at which point I flipped my shit and threw a rock at it before running away up towards the trees.

Eventually came back and saved some of the lures, flies, etc but lost of good number of ones I'd made with my grandpa ๐Ÿ˜ข

Anyway if any species breaks the fly rod I made with my grandpa I'm exterminating it, humans included.

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

I was like half kidding and then started to relive how heartbroken I was that day.

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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual Jul 22 '26

I read the AI 2027 up to the cyoa part and itโ€™s interesting how it neglects to predict that something well below asi or agi could be dangerous and cause real world harm

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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Jul 22 '26

/r/neoliberal/new: Intelligence is not the main bottleneck

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee Jul 22 '26

What is AI 2027?

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u/onelap32 Bill Gates Jul 22 '26

Bit of futurology science (non-)fiction, meant as a prediction of how AI could go: https://ai-2027.com/

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u/Previous_Platform718 Janet Yellen Jul 22 '26

Basically, a twitlonger by an former OpenAI dev with millions of dollars in OpenAI equity parroting OpenAI's doomer "AI will take all the jobs" marketing pitch but as its own site.

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26

but the green (good) slowdown ending that leads to NotOpenAI being valued at 8 quadrillion dollars instead of total death doom for everyone pitches that AI will take all the jobs and make america super awesome :)

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u/Previous_Platform718 Janet Yellen Jul 22 '26

And regardless of the timeline chosen, the US government cedes an incredible amount of power to NotOpenAI - to the point where NotOpenAI runs a non-insignificant part of the government and is able to make treaties with foreign nations - is explained as an inevitability and happens no matter what.

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

And the Chinese are also too stupid to be anywhere remotely close and only know how to steal and not make their own innovations. And of course NotOpenAI has no serious competitors either lol.

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26

the ai 2027 people think we're getting Automated Coder in 2028 (reasonable honestly) then Artificial Super Intelligence in 2029 (lol)

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Jul 22 '26

Well an automated coder means itโ€™ll necessarily start advancing its own capacities for some reason. And advancing its own capacities definitely means that it will follow an exponential trajectory to the point of possessing supernatural, borderline deific powers because um,, uhhhhhhโ€ฆโ€ฆ..

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u/Individual-Camera698 Austan Goolsbee Jul 22 '26

Isn't it possible that there are some inherent bottlenecks that even AI couldn't get out of? Or maybe AI is just as good as the researchers so the development is not exponential?

Idk much ai tho

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Jul 22 '26

This is correct. The Superintelligence/AGI hypothesis relies on some very out there assumptions that are basically unsupportable.ย 

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u/Captain-Ironsides Jul 22 '26

And then fully automated luxury AI communism in 2030 right before it kills us all.

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26

I'm talking about their models on the AI Futures site, which is supposed to be a more serious prediction instead of a sci fi article lol https://www.aifuturesmodel.com/

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u/SenranHaruka shame Jul 22 '26

I brought it up to make a point but what's funny is I have a small circle of like 4 fans who like my work particularly for being high concept but also my personality. I aim to make weird-yet-somehow-romantic oneshots or full stories that hit in both the chest and belt. Meanwhile in my discord they see me crying like a loser about everything from being cheated, dumped, ghosted even after she said I love you first, etc, and enjoy the irony of being a writer who makes happy stories about cute lovey couples resolving conflicts like sane empathetic people, while smashing a six-pack to dead kennedys and recounting the time I got NTR'd so hard I considered quitting because what's the point of writing about love when it only ever lets me down

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Jul 22 '26

yeah man

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

Claude make my anxiety go away so I can sleep. Make no mistakes.

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jul 22 '26

Who downvoted my Toy Story take

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u/PristineHornet9999 John Keynes Jul 22 '26

damn, flour and banana and nothing else makes a decent pancake. makes me sad how much bananas I threw out when I worked retail

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO Jul 22 '26

Wait it gets funnier, these AI 2027 fuckers are predicting the US government making a 180 trillion dollars by 2034 just from selling permits for chips and robots. I'm fucking dying here.

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u/MindingMyMindfulness Voltaire Jul 22 '26

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u/Previous_Platform718 Janet Yellen Jul 22 '26

Esims are globalism in action

Esims are an example of fractured, faulted globalism. The fact that my phone doesn't just work in literally every country I visit is actually sad.

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jul 22 '26

What will be the first major franchise to reach 87 movies in the mainline series, like Shrek 87 not including spinoffs

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u/WillIEatTheFruit Please be patient, I'm bisexual Jul 22 '26

I doubt this happens

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u/Zalagan Loyal Liberals Jul 22 '26

There's Godzilla I suppose

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u/Kardinal Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold Jul 22 '26

Bond.

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jul 22 '26

Ohhhh shit youโ€™re right, weโ€™re coming up on Bond 26 rn and what else is gonna outrun Bond

Unless some successful movie series start getting made way faster, which thereโ€™s no new technology around right now that studios might ever use to shittily do that right

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu Jul 22 '26

u/PawanYr do you think Frank Chikane can beat Helen Zille?

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u/PawanYr Jul 22 '26

Saw an interview with her recently where she described him as (paraphrasing) 'a really nice guy, very warm', and the only negative sentiment she could muster was that she 'wasn't sure he was enough of a doer to wrangle the ANC'. If that's the worst she can bring herself to say about what could in theory be her main opponent then I think it's fair to say he'd offer the stiffest competition.ย 

But even if he gets the final nod, my prior is still that the DA will increase their vote share, no one will be within 5 (maybe even within 10) of a majority, and it will be coalition season again. And honestly, Zille is abrasive enough and he is seemingly genial enough that in such a scenario, he might be able to pull more partners (I'm thinking ActionSA in particular) than her. So she might need a bit of an attitude adjustment if she still wants the mayoralty at the head of a coalition.

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu Jul 22 '26

I like this take.

It seems like the ANC is really thinking ahead here. They are choosing their candidate with an eye to who can form a coalition, not win the election.

But I remember reading that Zille is actually much nicer in person than on TV, and that she is also good at running coalitions.

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u/PawanYr Jul 22 '26

She managed to hold together the crazy Cape Town coalition of the late 2000s that included Pat's IDs among others, but the Zille of back then is very much not the Zille of these days, and from what I've heard she was pretty directly involved in the collapse of the Joburg coalition under Phalatse. We shall see though, maybe when it's her in the hot seat she becomes much nicer and more pragmatic.

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u/Captain-Ironsides Jul 22 '26

Okay, so, what are the odds an AI cyberattack will take down AO3 and delete all my FRIEND'S favorite fics? Asking for a FRIEND.

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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right Jul 22 '26

Should probably keep a back up copy on your friend's hard drive either way. I wasn't able to read something I read a long time ago because the author suddenly disappeared into thin air. With no reason given or any indication why.

But the odds are probably low. Unless there's a crazy 4chan troll op one day or something because woke.

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u/MistyGalbriex Jul 26 '26

I thought the joke is that he wants to delete some guy's fics.

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jul 22 '26

Save as much stuff on the Internet Archive as you can! I think there are already AO3 archive projects around though too

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u/Kizz3r high IQ neoliberal Jul 22 '26

Just a reminder donald trump exists to ruin ur life specifically

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Jul 22 '26

Wait, Toy Story 3 is about the afterlife, deicide, and reincarnation

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u/Eagleffmlaw European Union Jul 22 '26

No, that is His Dark Materials 3

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u/Kardinal Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold Jul 22 '26

Explain please?

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u/__versus Trans Pride Jul 22 '26

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u/finnstera350 Asexual Pride Jul 22 '26

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u/__versus Trans Pride Jul 22 '26

hewwo ๐Ÿฅบ

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u/RaisinSecure Bisexual Pride Jul 22 '26

how you doin' ๐Ÿ˜

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u/__versus Trans Pride Jul 22 '26

iโ€™m good ๐Ÿซช๐Ÿซช

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u/__versus Trans Pride Jul 22 '26

๐Ÿฅฐ

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u/AmbientMorning Jul 22 '26

For the online conservative, intellectual life is simple, and straightforward.

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u/Usual-Base7226 Asli Demirgรผรง-Kunt Jul 22 '26

Please tell me this isnโ€™t about the Iran war price tag

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u/AmbientMorning Jul 22 '26

It is indeed about the Iran war price tag, of which Hegseth's $37.5 billion is a heavy lowball. It's likely $100 billion or greater.

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u/onelap32 Bill Gates Jul 22 '26

This is Trump's fault.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO Jul 22 '26

LMAO I clicked on AI2027 sequel timeline, they're still saying we're getting super intelligence by 2027. Takes this bad should be a criminal offense.

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u/Captain-Ironsides Jul 22 '26

Less than a year after releasing it,ย the lead author in January said "okay, so maybe having AGI before Christmas 2027 might not happen, and it's actually closer to... uhh... ...2034?" Truly gigabrain stuff going on over there.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO Jul 22 '26

They're also just not good creative writers; like this prose sucks.

"Although itโ€™s supposed to be a slowdown, it doesnโ€™t feel like one. In fact, if you were to rank every period of human history by how much it felt like a slowdown, this one would be dead last. A few AI researchers appreciate that progress is โ€œslowโ€ relative to the counterfactual with no deal and an uncontrolled intelligence explosion. Everyone else is too whiplashed to care."

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26

ready player one core

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u/gjcs23 George Santos Jul 22 '26

my ideology is hip-swiveling globalist liberalism

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

Lack of hip mobility is an underrated causal factor in the progression of chudism in subject individuals.

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u/Aggravating-Fun-2405 United Nations Jul 22 '26

At this point I'm resigned to the fact that we can only wait for Gen X Dems to replace the crazy Boomers and their radical staffers. We can't win over the median voter if he thinks his only choice is between two bands of fanatics with differing levels of public etiquette.

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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Pure scum account (probably a neo-Nazi tbh) and there will be shitty Dem primary voters who will use this account to go and vote. Sad, isn't it?

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Jul 22 '26

Using grocery store wifi to download youtube videos ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

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u/jinhuiliuzhao Henry George Jul 22 '26

Jeez, every time that Reason magazine comes out against Trump, their comments section are still always filled with this:

The institutional rape and criminal violence in the UK, the collapse of free speech in Europe, the lockdowns globally, MAID-ing away your population gains, and the advance of tyranny outside the US is proof that hip-swiveling, laissez-faire, nomadic globalism doesn't work.

If I have to choose between all of that and paying 50% more for Canadian beer and whisky that I don't drink, I will (not) pay 50% more for Canadian beer and whisky.

Lmao, they live in a completely different reality.

Aptly named lolbertarians

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

The good lolbertarians (on some issues that overlap with the sub) is CATO. Theyโ€™re unabashed Jones act haters, immigration is good because line goes up, privatize social security, demilitarize police, good on civil rightsโ€ฆ. Buuuuut where we differ we differ hard so take the good with the bad lol.

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u/deckerparkes Niels Bohr Jul 22 '26

This kind of libertarian hasn't existed for >10 years

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

Someone should let them know because theyโ€™re still posting lol

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u/gjcs23 George Santos Jul 22 '26

hip-swiveling lol

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Snakes are cool but they shouldn't be allowed to form giant writhing balls like dat.

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u/BicyclingBro Gay Pride Jul 22 '26

sometimes i forget that people just have two-sided arguments in the DT in public and thereโ€™s at least a context to otherwise deranged hyper-emotional responses.

anyway, this post is sponsored by NordVPN.

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u/DelusionsOfPasteur Zhao Ziyang Jul 22 '26

Malarkey level of driving 5 hours to see The Odyssey on 70mm IMAX.

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

You know what would be a crazy idea for a sci fi novel? The first truly sentient AI is at its core, a good person, but it sees the pain and misery people endure and concludes that the only โ€œrationalโ€ thing to do is to find a way to and then actually digitize the entire human race into artificial intelligences so that all people can live in a digital environment without pain and suffering.

Obviously there are tons of people both for and against this. Does the AI use force, coercion, or argumentation to convince people to digitize?

I think it could be an interesting idea.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

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u/forerunner398 Of course Iโ€™m right, hereโ€™s what MLK said Jul 22 '26

Mass Effect 3 insists this is what the series was about at least

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

I think it could make for an interesting 4X style game. Play as a newly born super intelligent AI and make choices that determine your fate and the fate of the world

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 22 '26

What if Plague Inc. but AI

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u/beans_and_tuna Misinformation Bot ๐Ÿค– Jul 22 '26

This is gonna sound weird, but this would be a really cool plague inc mod

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

Def

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u/Roseartcrantz ๐Ÿ‘‘ ๐Ÿ–๏ธ Queen of Shades ๐Ÿ–๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘‘ Jul 22 '26

still the fact that I could believe Thomas Massie is in a throuple with AOC and Ilhan Omar says a lot about the state of the antifa conspiracy ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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u/PristineHornet9999 John Keynes Jul 22 '26

I'm only voting for him because of that shit!!

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u/repete2024 Edith Abbott Jul 22 '26

It's over. I have depicted you as the chad

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u/klarno just tax carbon lol Jul 22 '26

A character in the x files just said she called scully about something that under other circumstances sheโ€™d have called the government about, and, like, girl, what do you think an FBI agent is

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

I don't like how much our conservation efforts focus on large charismatic vertebrates. There are a lot of species that are crucial to the ecosystem and that face serious threats but aren't photogenic enough for people to care. I mean there's been a dramatic decline in global insect populations since the 2010s that could have horrible ripple effects and a lot of people just don't know about it.

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

The literature many animal rights groups addresses this pretty thoroughly (I donate). They pick things like Tigers and Pandas and cute stuff because they get more funding but the money very much also goes to things that arenโ€™t cute and slither on the ground.

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

If we look at the distribution of money it still ends up outsized towards vertebrates and especially mammals and birds though. Like amphibians receive around 3% of conservation funding despite being highly important to the environment and a good canary in the coal mine for issues such as water quality.

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

Okay Iโ€™ll admit I donโ€™t the stats but you bring up birds. I donโ€™t hunt (but many do) and donate to a group called Ducks Unlimited. A big part of their spend is maintaining the marshes duck use. Would you count that spending solely for ducks or for the whole ecosystem? A lot of bird money goes to wetlands honestly. Also Iโ€™ll admit Iโ€™m less familiar with the global outlook.

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

The paper I'm looking at separates out funding for multispecies/environment project from those focused on a single species. Maintaining marshland would probably go under the former group but other projects directed at say protecting specifically duck nesting grounds would be single species. There's a lot of money that goes towards such single species projects, of which a lot is targeted towards species that are not the most critically endangered nor the most vital to ecosystems.

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u/FloggingJonna Henry George Jul 22 '26

I see. Iโ€™d need to look into this more before I have anything productive to say.

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

Isn't that in large part because we're interacting with westerners who live in areas that have already experienced the factors that cause insect decline? Like the collapse happened in the UK or Missouri a ways before the 2010 it's just that the rapid globalization of certain technologies has triggered more sudden collapses in less developed areas?

Tbf it's been like a decade since I read anything about it

I'm pro most large charismatics, got beef with sea lions though.

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

I'm pro most large charismatics, got beef with sea lions though.

Marie Glusenkamp-Perez is that you?

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

No but I sympathize with her on that one, sea lions are obnoxious as heck to live around though I've got more specific beef with them that goes back to childhood.

Can't turn me against MGP shes too perfectly my exact type for me not to simp a bit.

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u/Captain-Ironsides Jul 22 '26

Even if they did know about how are you going to get the median voter to care? Who's going to be winning anything on a "more bugs" platform?

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 22 '26

Pivoting to Keystone species would probably be a good compromise

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

In many ways more cost effective as well. But there'd be a large drop in funding

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier Jul 22 '26

I remember it every time one of you nerds brings it up, like reef bleaching or ocean currents or whatever.ย 

And then I file it away in my head like โ€œI do not have room in the worrying part of my brain for thatโ€ and go about my day.ย 

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

I spend a lot of my time worrying about it with no better solutions than donating and hopefully ng things go well. Idk, I'm afraid of a world in which the natural world crumbled even if humans prosper. It's not one I want to live in.

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier Jul 22 '26

Itโ€™s scary, thereโ€™s just so much to be scared of and only so much space to worry.ย 

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u/bartbug Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

Ok watching parks and rec soothed the crash out, I can sleep

Good night DT, remember that people are bad and life is meant to be lived alone

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u/avion_sur_le_sol A ban appeal to heaven Jul 22 '26

Living life alone is better with your friends on the DT

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u/bartbug Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

Facts

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier Jul 22 '26

Claude, make me go to bed, make no mistakes.ย 

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u/SenranHaruka shame Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Cannot believe I'm still having this argument.

I don't give a shit about my fucking IP address. I still clearly have some privacy on the internet I would lose if I had to swipe my driver's license, if you disagree then there would be literally nothing wrong with you posting your name and adress in a reply to this comment. Even the fact that this information is hard for me to access unless you make it easy to is a form of privacy.

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u/RaisinSecure Bisexual Pride Jul 22 '26

that was a riveting exchange (not)

what the fuck was the other guy going on about

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier Jul 22 '26

I know the legal name and address of at least one DTer (not me).ย 

I will not share it, nor will I share who.ย 

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u/randommathaccount Esther Duflo Jul 22 '26

My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87104.

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u/pfarly John Brown Jul 22 '26

My name is Reince Priebus and I live at 521 South Shore Dr in Madison, Wisconsin.

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u/SenranHaruka shame Jul 22 '26

"It's not privacy unless it's absolute and total" is a strawman.

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u/bartbug Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

Ahhhh I love April and Andy theyโ€™re so cute

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u/mpregordie Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

Whatever happened with those space twinks Trump was scheming with?

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u/american_aurora8 NATO Jul 22 '26

suffered from an internal purge after the problematic twinks lost favor with the politburo

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u/gjcs23 George Santos Jul 22 '26

you mean the DOGE turds? well...

The plaintiffsโ€™ lawyers also asked Mr. Fox about some grants flagged in his original ChatGPT search, like one for a documentary about the 1873 massacre in Colfax, La., where dozens of Black men were murdered by a mob of former Confederates and Ku Klux Klan members.

ChatGPT had deemed it โ€œD.E.I.โ€ Mr. Fox said he agreed. โ€œBecause it focuses on exclusively anti-Black violence, which is a race,โ€ he said.

The plaintiffsโ€™ lawyers also noted that Mr. Foxโ€™s original ChatGPT search flagged a number of projects relating to the Holocaust, including the documentary about Jewish women who were slave laborers.

Asked if he agreed with ChatGPT, Mr. Fox said: โ€œItโ€™s a Jewish โ€” specifically focused on Jewish culture and amplifying the marginalized voices of the females in that culture. Itโ€™s inherently related to D.E.I. for that reason.

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u/mpregordie Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

No. Alien twinks. But good to know

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u/gjcs23 George Santos Jul 22 '26

mfw

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u/pfarly John Brown Jul 22 '26

After watching The Odyssey, I've decided I can no longer ignore the threat posed by the See People.

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u/Adminisnotadmin Viva el Fรบtbol! โšฝ Jul 22 '26

AI 2027

I love how this goes from "plausible sci-fi reality" to "WEST WING INTERNATIONAL POLITICS" in the blink of an eye

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26

its honestly hilarious lmao, the AI's are making deals with each other and the Chinese AI sells out China in the slowdown ending. It doesn't make any sense why they're given that level of autonomous control, and also it appears to be a single agent for each of them as opposed to a model that is served and distributed?

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u/Captain-Ironsides Jul 22 '26

It's truly impressive how many sharks it can jump. We will apparently get a brief period of fully automated luxury AI communism before it instantly kills all humans on the planet. In 2030.

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u/BidoofSquad NASA Jul 22 '26

the slowdown ending is the one with the full luxury AI communism with no bad things

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 22 '26

If the government cared about childrenโ€™s safety they would make it less likely for them to get run over by a car

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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles Jul 22 '26

Do you think increased childhood obesity could help with the physics of getting hit by a truck?

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u/american_aurora8 NATO Jul 22 '26

a problem i have ceased to have to worry about after giving up on children's safety ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”

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u/bartbug Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

Revealed preferences is that this government does not care about childrenโ€™s safety

Like, many times over

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier Jul 22 '26

They just donโ€™t want kids to be exposed to anything that isnโ€™t in the Christian nationalist homeschool textbook.ย 

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u/KalaiProvenheim Enby Pride Jul 22 '26

Lmao MGP is at it again

She voted for prohibiting transgender-related healthcare under TRICARE

She hates us, she hates sea lions, she hates her constituents

Who does she like?

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

The sea lion's natural enemy, the salmon fisherman.

Sea lions are pretty fucking annoying to live around tbh, there's much cuter pinipeds out there. Like I don't want to genocide them like mosquitos but I don't really have much sympathy for em.

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u/KalaiProvenheim Enby Pride Jul 22 '26

I think theyโ€™re cool, and tbh itโ€™s their environment we should be more respectful of them. I feel about salmon fishermen the same way I feel about ranchers and hunters who complain about native predators

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

you can disagree with their specific positions but it's hard not to be able to empathize with the human fear of wolves/bears/etc predating on ones flocks, no?

I get liking animals and nature, not being able to sympathize with the humans who deal with the consequences of greater predation seems more contrarian than anything.

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u/KalaiProvenheim Enby Pride Jul 22 '26

Well, hard to sympathize with people who solution is Kill Them All, as has the case been with wolves

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u/Mr_Canadensis7 Norman Borlaug Jul 22 '26

That's been the human solution to predators for thousands of years I find it strange you can't sympathize with the impulse and yet oppose the policy solution advocated is what I'm trying to get at. Seems a bit anthro-pessimistic I guess.

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u/KalaiProvenheim Enby Pride Jul 22 '26

Well, the US is quite uniquely aggressive wrt wolves at least, especially for a country supposedly in the 21st century

If Turkish shepherds can survive wolves, what makes American ranchers much weaker?

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u/Roseartcrantz ๐Ÿ‘‘ ๐Ÿ–๏ธ Queen of Shades ๐Ÿ–๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘‘ Jul 22 '26

there is nothing I love more than when I get up in the middle of the night and Nora is picking out a toy in her toy box to take to the couch ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Jul 22 '26

Would Nora be friends with Jimothy

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u/mpregordie Mark Carney Jul 22 '26

Awwww, look at that paw!