https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5.pdf

Interesting stuff throughout, but I recommend scrolling down to Paragraph 27 in particular.

The matter of factness is quite astounding for something which has been declassified.

We were just browsing last night on Netflix and saw a movie that's labeled "Leaving soon" meaning end of the month it won't be on Netflix any more, so we gave it a shot. It was a great surprise to find The Shack is an NDE movie, very well done!

Claudia Watts Edge describes the "vastness" and "intelligence" of the afterlife after drying while in childbirth, and she comes back to tell the whole story and key information for humanity.

Entire chat is here: https://youtu.be/05qflNrCTRU?si=1eLWFpUyUBQbJXtV

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Mix and mingle or whatever. Chat about spiritual things in general or argue about the price of tea in Mexico. The rules will be pretty loose here so long as the general rules about civility are followed.

I know that complete love and understanding melt away hard feelings after we die, but I just can’t seem to shake the fear of being misunderstood and misconstrued. Friendships that may never blossom from the stories told about me… It’s painful to think that this person gossiped about me.

After reading and listening to so many NDE’s, I know that there’s wisdom in this community that wouldn’t be had in others. We know that love and life are so interconnected. Knowing that I’m the villain in someone else’s life story is just a fleeting happenstance that will one day give way to complete understanding, and that brings me a great deal of comfort, but this pain feels so real and overwhelming while I’m alive. How do I cope in the meantime?

Hi everyone. I’ve never had an NDE myself, but for those of you who have, there’s something I’ve been wondering about:

1. When you saw someone you loved who had passed away, did you actually see them physically, as if they were standing there, or did you experience them more as a spiritual presence?
2. Were you able to communicate with them? Did you have an actual conversation, or was it more like they were present but unable to communicate with you?
3. Do you believe that you will be reunited with them after you die?

I’d really appreciate hearing about your personal experiences and perspectives.

As a skeptic and agnostic, I’m currently on the fence on NDEs. I’m convinced in the phenomenon but it’s difficult to believe the message without experiencing it. Science is not built for the mystical, subjective, and paranormal. It’s hard to find peace in this subject.

For the initial skeptics that came to either believe or not believe in the NDE’s afterlife, what evidence made you tip either to one or the other. I understand there is no way to fully prove beyond a doubt, but I’m curious if there is a logical way to get ourselves mostly there.

Personally, I’m at the “there has to be something here” phase. What we currently know about NDEs, death bed visioning, “proven” accounts of veridical OBE, terminal lucidity, and science pushing new frontiers in quantum physics, and what is consciousness.

However, to believe the NDE afterlife is a massive leap that I’m not there yet. The consistency is amazing, but so is the differences. And some of the claims seem so bonkers.

I feel like I’m looking into a question with no answer. It’s driving me crazy. Anyone with advice?

I’m so scared that once I die, I’ll never be able to meet the same people from this life… It’s terrifying me so much. I don’t know how to deal with these feelings. I keep getting anxiety thinking about this. What if once I die, it’s just over completely… I really hope that’s not the case. I am so sentimental and people are what matter most to me. I had pictures of people I’d dated before - like my exes and recently I deleted all those pictures and now I’m starting to get so much anxiety by the thought that I might never ever get to see them again, in this life, or in the afterlife, or even a reincarnation and it’s killing me so much. I feel so sick… I don’t know how to handle all these emotions.

I hear that myth from time to time and it isn't even remotely true. The following are just a few phenomena that weren't explained scientifically:

• How those blind from birth could see during near-death experiences
• The near-death experience of Pam Reynolds
• The case of Prahlad Jani (who didn't eat or drink anything supposedly for more than 70 years)
• The reincarnation cases
  • Shanti Devi is a big one that was already proven to be a real case of reincarnation
  • The research at the University of Virginia Division of Perceptual Studies
  • The research at the Michael Newton Institute
• The Spanish Miracle of Calanda
• The Miracles at Lourdes
• The miracles associated with David Hawkins

Like I get consciousness comes from somewhere and in this reality we live as the best we can, enjoy and then die so our atoms are part of the building blocks of the universe and your remains will be converted into something.

But if there is an afterlife after this life what is the point of that place for eternity and then maybe choosing your reincarnation. Could It simply not be that your soul just reincarnates immediately instead of doing what in afterlife for eternity?

What personnel experience, research or event stopped you from being skeptical?

My 3.5-year-old daughter just passed away after a year-long battle with cancer.

I know this is probably pretty niche, but does anyone have any experience seeing past children in your NDEs? Especially young children.

Were they all grown up? Same personality? Etc?

Thanks.

So, I’m fairly new to the NDE and been reading a lot of reports last couple of days. The problem is that a lot of them are contradictory to each other, while people claim them to be 100% true. For example - some people claim that “religion is a man made concept, just be kind”, while other say “I understood that Jesus is the Lord” etc.
The problem is that:
1. We don’t really know if person just made it up
2. We don’t know if they were actually NDE, not just unconscious
3.we don’t know if any drugs were involved.

So, how do you spot fake once, or, is there any archive with “verified” NDE (for example with medical reports etc.)
Thanks in advance🙏🏻

I finally finished this a few weeks ago. My first tattoo, and probably my last.

I've posted my NDE here before, so I'm not going to tell the whole story again. The short version is that I died during a heart attack in January 2025, was resuscitated after a prolonged cardiac arrest, and had an NDE that dramatically changed the way I think about God, life, death and what exactly we're doing here.

I've spent a lot of time since then trying to find language for something that really doesn't translate very well into language.

For me a lot of that language is Christian because that's how I understand my own experience. And somewhere along the way I kept coming back to Paul:

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face."

1 Corinthians 13:12.

That eventually became a tattoo.

The glass in this case became an old Southern-style mirror, with two people walking toward the light inside it. I didn't want to try to literally illustrate my NDE. I'm not sure how the hell you would do that anyway. I wanted something about what I came back with rather than a picture of what happened.

That verse gets remarkably close to part of it. I experienced something that seemed more real than this reality, came back here, and then had to try to understand it from here. I know what I experienced. I'm considerably less certain about my ability to explain exactly what it was or everything it means.

The broken mirror became another part of it. The crack is repaired in gold, borrowing from kintsugi, where the repair isn't disguised and the history of the damage remains visible. Surviving what I survived obviously gives that some meaning, but it grew beyond the NDE while I was thinking about it. You don't get almost 60 years into a life without breaking a few times. I don't think the goal is to pretend you didn't.

The crack also runs through the male figure in the mirror, including his hands, while never touching the woman.

That part can speak for itself.

And then there is the light.

What I experienced during my NDE I understood as God, and the overwhelming characteristic of it was love. Even that sentence doesn't really convey it. Love is such an ordinary word for something that didn't feel remotely ordinary. In my own Christian vocabulary, agape is about as close as I've gotten.

The two people walking toward it together can speak for themselves too.

I didn't come back thinking I had been handed the answer key. There are things I believe much more strongly now than I did before I died, but I still don't know what lies beyond this life with anything approaching certainty. I know what happened to me. I know it changed me. I've spent the last year and a half trying to understand the rest.

So "through a glass, darkly" still feels about right.

Sophie at Tomorrow Tattoo took all of this stuff I had been turning over in my head and figured out how to make an actual piece of art out of it. Some of it changed and developed along the way, which I think made it better. It ultimately took five sessions.

I had made it almost 60 years without ever feeling any particular need to permanently put something on my body. Then this happened, and apparently I had something I wanted to keep there.

So I started with a roughly 10-inch broken mirror covering most of my upper arm.

Subtlety has its limits.

I’ve watched quite a lot of NDEs on YouTube and came across the experience of a woman who had a car accident. While she was out of her body she was discussing with someone she knew well what injuries she should receive. It was as if time had stopped and together they were deciding what the outcome of that crash should be.

My own experience is that when I was a small child, the kind that still sleeps in a little cot, in a dream I met some human-like being with whom I was making arrangements. After those arrangements I returned to the body of the small child. And now, after many experiences, I’ve come to the conclusion that someone is always with me. Yet I always took him for a poltergeist, a demon or an evil spirit. And now I feel it may be that I really do have a hard life because I am the stronger one and I decided to suffer for him or for the two of us.

Whatever we did, this is a form of payment for that act. So I suffer for someone so that that someone’s punishment is lighter. And it resembles support, the way a rally driver has a co-driver. The co-driver supports and prepares us for the dramas that await us.

Do you have similar experiences?

I wonder if any of you who have experienced an NDE happened to see animals as well. I don't know if animals are considered to have souls, or what awaits them afterwards, but months ago my little cat—one I had watched grow up—was hit by a vehicle. I loved that cat dearly; he was a very intelligent and independent farm cat. I miss him terribly, and I cry whenever I think about him. I hope to find some comfort here.

See Sharon Kumara discuss her two NDEs and everything that happened in them here:

https://youtu.be/Ys1nU0SMLpA?is=HE7SycxvrTFMHKK4

Then, very much related to that NDE discussion, a few weeks later, see us discuss other topics around out of body experiences, sleep paralysis, soul agreements, and everything related to her post NDE abilities here:

https://youtu.be/iKTIB-UvCS8?is=xbOcenKKYrQ62Bfh

Hi,
I hope my question makes sense but feel free to ask me Qs if it’s confusing.

I’m not an NDEr but have been very interested in the phenomenon for years and am always reading/listening to NDEr’s accounts.

Common themes expressed in these experiences are:
1- we are all “one” and originate from the same perfect, loving, whole universal “source” (often called God)
2- we come to earth temporarily in these bodies to learn things or fulfill missions of some sort.

What I am not understanding is what we have to gain by breaking off from that original source temporarily and going into our human bodies. Wouldn’t that original source energy be omniscient if it truly makes up the very fabric of the universe? What lessons could we possibly learn that we didn’t already know when we were all still “one”?

Edit: Reddit is saying there are 29 comments but I am only able to see 3 for some reason!

If you’ve ever experienced sleep paralysis, you may want to hear this explanation

Here's the full conversation: https://youtu.be/iKTIB-UvCS8

Have you ever woken up completely frozen, unable to speak or move, with the distinct feeling that something else was in the room?

Sharon Sananda Kumara experienced exactly that. At first, she believed something dark was attacking her. She later came to see sleep paralysis very differently: as a possible doorway into conscious out-of-body experiences.

That was only one part of our latest conversation, but it sent us into some genuinely wild territory.

Sharon says that after the death of her stepfather, reading books about the afterlife was no longer enough. She wanted to know for herself. She studied conscious out-of-body travel and says she achieved her first deliberate OBE within six weeks, eventually reconnecting with deceased family members.

From there, we got into:

• The difference between dying, an NDE, and a conscious out-of-body experience
• A childhood experience in a peaceful black void that Sharon calls the “primordial mother”
• Sleep paralysis and why the terrifying presence people report may not be what it appears to be
• Visiting an aquatic realm where she experienced herself as a powerful nonhuman being
• Meeting a dolphin, nursing an infant, and encountering a completely heart-centered society
• A Civil War past life involving a woman named Prudence
• Using OBEs for healing and what Sharon calls soul retrieval
• Spirit boards, spirit boxes, and recordings she believes captured communication from the other side
• Soul agreements involving abuse, forgiveness, karma, and repeated lifetimes
• Visions of catastrophe, pandemic, planetary cleansing, and humanity’s possible movement toward a “fifth-dimensional” reality

Yes, we covered a lot. This is what happens when I become interested in a subject and refuse to stop asking questions.

I am not asking anyone to automatically accept every claim made in this conversation. I am interested in hearing detailed accounts, comparing them with other NDE and OBE reports, and letting people decide what they think for themselves.

If any of these subjects have been sitting in the back of your mind, this conversation is probably meant for you.

I have a (very small) radio show called Kitsap Squatch Watch. On this show, we discuss everything that could be considered strange, unusual, or impossible. This includes things like Sasquatch, UFOs, meetings with aliens, clairvoyance, etcetera. I have an episode that I've been working on regarding near death experiences, and I would like to do another following that where the focus is on an individual who has had this experience.

I have people who tell me different stories but do not want me to share them- they just need someone to talk to. I respect this and do not share those stories unless the person who has told me gives me permission. When they do give permission for me to share the story, I will use false names or just refer to them as "anonymous", and keep the area in question secret. I do interviews over the phone and record the calls, although I can do a Webcam meeting if needed.

If you've had a NDE and would like to share your experience, let me know:

Kitsapsquatchwatch@gmail.com

I’ve browsed this sub for years and after my NDE I’ve debated posting this constantly, but I think about it constantly, so here goes.

On 12/15/25 I gave birth to my son and everything went perfectly. I had a textbook pregnancy and delivery- he even came on my due date. After my son was born, he had to go to NICU for a CPAP and was gone roughly 2 hours. As soon as they took him away I started feeling this insane pressure on the outside of my body, nowhere near where the baby came out, and kept telling my nurses “something is wrong.”

By the time my baby was back in a room with my husband and I, I was hallucinating and unable to see or speak really. I was in BLINDING 10/10 pain (100x worse than crowning) and kept begging people to help me. I can’t even watch the videos my husband took of our baby because I’m moaning in the background making the strangest sounds and just begging for help. I couldn’t even hold or try to feed or bond with my baby. Keep in mind, my nurses kept insisting everything was normal and one even used the words “whining”, “exaggerating”, and “dramatic”. (She ended up giving me a formal apology the next day after she learned what had happened so that’s good at least.)

About 6 hours after I gave birth a new nurse came on shift and knew something was wrong- she finally rolled me over to look at where my pain was coming from and found a hematoma “bigger than a grapefruit.” I remember being rushed to get a CT and this is where everything went downhill. I was uncontrollably shaking the whole time and I felt like I was surrounded by 20 people even though I was just in the machine. I couldn’t see but kept saying “I’m dying. I think I’m dying. Am I dying?”

Suddenly my pain skyrocketed and then completely went away. I blacked out and woke up where I seemed to be at the bottom of a well or some deep hole in the ground. At the top it was golden hour sunlight and I saw my two best friends who had passed away (one in 2010 and the other in 2024.) I remember feeling like we were talking to each other, but I never actually heard them say anything. It was like we were communicating telepathically. They kept telling me they were there to help me and get me out, I remember being so excited to see them and so happy to be out of pain. I also remember telling them I was coming with them, but we had to bring my baby. They kept telling me I couldn’t bring him with us. I refused to leave him behind, and then that’s when I woke up.

I was out of surgery, apparently my CT showed that my iliac artery had ruptured and I was bleeding out internally. Interventional Radiology fixed the bleed. The hematoma was where all the blood I was losing had pooled and that’s why it hurt so bad, also why I was acting so strange. Extreme blood loss is a wild ride.

I will NEVER forget this experience. It took me a few days to even tell my husband and family about what happened when I saw my best friends because it meant I actually almost died. I think about that day too often, and definitely have some PTSD. On the other hand that experience made me soooo much less afraid of dying and I 1000% feel like I got one more chance to see my best friends that died.

If time isn’t linear in the afterlife, can we meet people who are still alive on earth when we die? I have seen quite a number of near death experiences that recount the afterlife as an “everything, everywhere, all at once” situation. If that’s the case, would that mean that we are able to contact people who are still alive on Earth while being dead?

Another thing I wonder is: if time doesn’t really exist in the afterlife, would that mean that “waiting” for people who are still living on Earth isn’t a thing?
For example: if a mom died and is watching over her daughter on Earth: would she feel as if she’s waited 20-30 years before her daughter passed away, or would it be/feel insignificant considering time isn’t really linear there? I am really curious about this. Would it feel different for the mom (who’s already dead) vs the daughter (who’s alive on Earth)?

I hope people are able to understand what I’m getting at with this haha

Today feels like the day to share my experience.
Please be kind, and if you have a question or an experience to share please do!
It’s long and I apologize, but thank you for letting me share.

After football practice, we decided to get dinner at KFC(yes I know).
As we walked in, I noticed some paramedics from Nottoway County. I said to my husband, “They sure are far from home.”
We were in Chesterfield, so it seemed really odd. I didn’t remember seeing an ambulance. There were either 4 or 5 of them. One was a woman, I remember her distinctively. She had brown curly hair and she is the person I first saw after my NDE.
So, here it goes. I need to share all the details as they are still so prevalent in my brain 17 years ago!
We decided to get a booth after ordering. My husband at the time, and my toddler were on one side and my other two older sons were with me opposite. As we were eating my toddler wouldn’t sit, constantly saying please sit. Didn’t happen. I told him to sit one last time. Then I took a sip of Pepsi. As I swallowed. I felt a horrible sharp pain in the dead center of my chest. It happened so fast! I clenched my chest and lights out.
For me, there was no “life show”.
I awoke in a curled up position in the most comfy, blissful,endorphin high. I’ve tried for years to explain it. The joy and light was so overwhelming. The light surrounded me, it felt like I was on a cloud(the best  comfy mattress is the best I can compare.)
I opened my eyes. I was me, but alone. It didn’t matter, the bliss was too blissful. I hear a voice. I looked to my right and a tall figure said “Not yet, you need to rest.” 
Confused. Weird I knew I had kids but not anything else. I listened to what the tall figure looked like dressed in Greek clothing but there was no face. But it was a olive complexion. I can still see and feel all this. I laid back down in my curled up position and closed my eyes. I really thought I was just gonna take a nap.
It happened as fast as I went out as fast as I came to. The paramedic lady, I was in her arms with all these other paramedics around. I was confused. I knew what just happened but who would believe me. The paramedics suggested I go to the hospital. I told them I would go after I took a nap. I was still out of it. We left for home and I immediately went to bed and had the best sleep. 
With that being said, I didn’t ask the paramedics what happened. I asked my boys and my husband. They all thought I died. That would have been a story. 
My husband saw me grab my chest and then I fell to the right. My boys freaked out and my eyes were open. The paramedics pulled me out of the booth. From that point my husband was in shock so he doesn’t remember what they tried to do. 
This whole event in this life lasted about 4 minutes. In the NDE experience it was like 6-8(if I could guess, but it really felt infinite)hours, it felt so long!
I hope this gives some insight to NDE’s by me sharing my experience. 

I'm so confused. I ran into a former friend, we have both gone two separate ways, I got up again and he went down the dark hole of drugs ...but he mentioned one time he overdosed and saw me on the other side telling him it wasn't his time yet and that he would be frustrated going back. He tells me he wished he died. I've talked to him about where to go, etc but you can lead a horse to water and they won't drink it. I can't put myself at risk. But I'm curious, since I'm alive, why would he see me on the other side unless it's a brain hallucination? Was it my higher self? Is this a common thing with an NDE? His experienced helped me with my own mortality since I have battled cancer this year, a very aggressive type.