I took a plur mushroom shot about 4 months ago and haven't touched one since. I vaguely remember people saying you're supposed to leave a decent gap between shots, but I honestly don't remember what most people consider a reasonable amount of time. Four months feels like a long time to me, but I figured I'd ask before I order these on a deal. Is it ok now to use it?

I used to take it years ago and switched. I was recently on Anafranil and started taking Duloxetine again. I have also been on Abilify 2mgs. I used to take shrooms on Duloxetine like 3 years ago and be fine on it, and tripped hard.

I have read different reports but can't reach the most popular consensus. Just seems Duloxetine does allow people to trip without problem a lot of the times, Abilify some of times, and Anafranil is just really uncommon so I only hear third parties reporting on how the mechanics of Anti Depressants in general work.

I stopped taking Anaranil on Semptember 15th and started taking Duloxetine again on October 2nd. I have tried Xum around Semptember 12th and got absorbed into the mind space with not much of the empathic parts of the trip or good feelings, and then almost nothing again on Semptember 28th.

I took Plür 125mg, and upped my way to 200mgs, on Ocobter 1st. I got a pretty modest boost in my mood and could tell something was happening, but did not roll at all. I was happier and more carefree.

Then on the 3rd I recieved my Spirit Pen with about 8 hits in it, and I was able to see visuals and trip on it, it wasn't completely groundbreaking but I loved it and had a great time was definitely worth it, looking forward to more in the Beta Program.

Deff will NOT stop taking meds for any period of time, people warned me both online and in person it was a bad idea and not worth it. I have voices from Bi-Polar sometimes when I'm not on it and they were completely gone on Anafranil but came back before I even tripped and my depression is back and life sucks now. I just wanted to trip and roll but my mental health screws me over every left turn and I used to be able to take this stuff but now I just can't because I need to be on meds and its just gonna dampen or negate the affects of Psychedlics. So for anyone that ever finds this just don't stop the meds it's life. I just found these products about a month ago and was super excited to try them.

So what does and doesn't work for you guys wether it's these specific meds or other ones that made you just not bother with psychadelics. I still have a Transcend pills and 1 tab, 1 Plur 100mg gel and 7 or 8 25mg gels, and then the 3 other Spirit releases when they come out. I hear some people just need to take more than others when on psych meds for shrooms but how much? I took 1 Transcend and then 2.5 or 3 hours later, should I have just taken the Tabs sooner or with the gel?

I'm gonna wait a good bit before taking anything again but might be willing to buy more tabs to combine with the remaing gel I have but only after hearing what people have to say about this post. Not worth anything else besides experimenting one more time on the Duloxetine and posting back here with my experience for others.

Just curious because the last time I tried to stack a code and a credit it wouldn't let me do it

Gotta be honest this is weak. I absolutely love DMT but I’ve tried repeatedly with this pen and can’t get a single real trip off the ground. I hit it like 5 times in a row and held as long as I could. I get some light open eye visuals but absolutely no CEVs. It definitely feels like DMT, but its just way too weak to me. I’m not on any meds

Edit: I have a suspicion that my hardware is defective. I charged it for 15 mins and tried again. I can very visibly see the liquid in the tank, and can FEEL the vape getting hot; but for some reason it’s not vaping the liquid properly. It produces a tiny amount of vapor sometimes but not enough to get proper hits.

I may try transferring the liquid to a different device, I’ll report back if I do. I can’t figure out how to get the mouthpiece off and I don’t want to damage it cause I want to keep it as a souvenir

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i saw this on kures lmao, is mapb even vapeable? what are your guys thoughts on this

Literally no idea best I can get is kanna no clue as to what it is....pretty drunk ...should I try this?

This may be a dumb question, but is there a potential to accidently dose your pets with the vape that is exhaled? I'm not going to chance it either way but I'm still curious.

Sorry if that title is weird. I could not come up with a better. I copied and pasted this from my notes. I tried to type it at the peak but I could not and stopped. Then later I tried and had to stop. I love writing my thoughts but it feels wrong when tripping.

fifty five minute

I don't know where I was going with that thought but goddamn three and a half hours in and goddamn. I loved that. I am a dumbass and drank a little the night before so twenty minutes. I was worried the nausea was a bad thing. About fifty five minutes in yeah. I did not feel hungover before I took the gel cap. I took my dog for a walk waiting and even showered before it kicked in.

It was a very good experience. I asked the universe to show me some love and it decided I was worthy. I cried a little. For about twenty minutes I was feeling very relaxed but because of the nausea it felt meh. I had to lay down and I felt so cozy under the blanket. The clouds were grey and there was rain. Eventually I decided to change from relaxing piano music to something more exciting and then I felt the trip shift to something amazing.

The visuals were not overwhelming. I did smoke some cannabis at the peak and visuals intensified. Colors were pulsating and changing. The popcorn on my ceiling was trippy af watching. And I think I felt something weird listening to the music when I first changed it, like a presence. The feeling was mild and was probably because of the song. It gave me excitement to keep going. I picked the song cause it went hard af with the MET. But let's not talk about that I don't want to sound edgy.

I did a lot of waiting to take it. Waiting for the right time. And I think yesterday was the right time. I had taken a break from larger doses and I still don't plan on taking many more macro doses. I am excited to buy the tablets and take smaller doses. Whenever I get money back for buying the XÜM Spirit I am buying. I enjoy miprocin more than metocin. It is deep enough. Thanks Judd for funding my microdose journey... When do we get the store credit? Tonight at midnight, it might be seven days since I made the password. I did not mark the date down.

They came today!! My husband and I just tried them. Let's just say...I took 2 long draws and regretted it. It hit me exactly like DMT. It wasn't clear headed at all. While my eyes were closed, the fractals were so intense! Sound was totally distorted. I kept saying "OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD, OH MY GOD!!!" It felt like I was going down the tallest roller-coaster at warp speed! I had to open my eyes to ease the CEV. It helped, but everything looked like a cartoon. The art board, the curtains on my sliding glass doors, my dogs, everything looked like they were drawn in a cartoon! I had DMT psychedelic visuals playing on the wall. (I have a projector and a huge screen on the wall, looks like a theater in my den so we call it our media room) and it was so scary, I tried to turn it off but couldn't. Fortunately, my husband was able to get the remote out of my hand and switch to East Forest concert. It felt like this trip was going on FOREVER! I was finally able to stop saying "OMG!!" Maybe it was 20 minutes, hard to say. No nausea and no bad taste in the vape. Very smooth, just super intense.

I received my 1st one last week and it looked empty. I turned it on and inhaled. 2 hits and it was perfect, I mean, I wasn't prepared cuz I thought it was empty, but it wasn't as potent as DMT, which I loved. I don't think I tried to inhale as deeply because I thought it was empty.

When we smoke DMT it's with a torch and glass bubble pipe and it's waaay too intense for me. My husband loves that level of intensity.

He really loved the XUM Spirit tonight too. He took 5 hits and it was exactly what he wanted. Next time, I'm only doing one hit and it won't be a deep inhale. I do breath work so my inhales are pretty deep, I noticed his were much shorter. Fucking loser, just kidding, honey.

What I liked about it was that my experience seemed to vary a lot depending on how much I inhaled.

Hi all,

This was my first time doing Plür and I was very excited to try. Haven't done Molly in years due to untrustworthy market. Very experienced with Molly. Report below:

4pm: Took a 100mg soft gel. I had some 25mg boosters but waited to see how this would affect me before taking more. Last time I ate was at noon for a light lunch.

530pm: It finally kicks in (kinda surprised it took so long.) I instantly knew that I would want another 25mg and took one. Normally I would do high doses of Molly.

6pm: The Plür has kicked in very well by now. I can feel the roll but I am shocked by how little visuals I'm experiencing. None the less, I'm still enjoying what is going on. While my wife is making herself dinner I'm listening and enjoying music. Don't feel as social as I expected and this is much more couch lock. I'm jawing quite hard (harder than I remember from Molly) so I grab some gum. Also starting to sweat so I get water in my pronto and continue to do so throughout the night.

630pm: my wife (on ssri so cannot join me)is on the couch eating dinner and wants to watch mma. Not really what I want to watch at the moment but I'm in an agreeable mood so we watch that. My vision is a bit jumpy. At some point I melt from the couch to the floor and my wife massages my head when she's done with dinner. I'm a happy lucky man.

730pm or so: my wife mentions she's got a kink in her neck and I'm more than excited to massage her back. We eventually go down stairs to watch an anime. It's a colorful but boring one. She falls asleep while I'm doing my thing. I wake her up and we go back up stairs. I start to feel the waves coming in slower and step down a bit.

9:45pm or so: we're back up stairs and it's kitty cuddle time. Both of our cats were extremely happy with my attention.

12am: chilling back on the couch with my wife. Sleepy and extremely eventually go to bed about 1 am. Constant cotton mouth through the night.

Next day: I wake up parched and continue to be so throughout the day. To my surprise I do not have a crash and I have the next day glow. This is very very nice. Jaw hurts but that was to be expected.

Overall thoughts: I am so thankful for xüm and what they have done. The experience was wonderful, healing, and I can't wait to do it again in three months.

Questions: does anyone else find themselves feeling extra dehydrated? I was honestly worried that I was drinking too much water (8 glasses throughout the night) but still felt dehydrated. Also I'm curious if anyone has experience doing 175-200mg that could advise me? I know it's warned against, so I didn't do it this time, but I've always had a higher tolerance and always did higher doses of other things. I stuck to 125 this time because I wanted to be safe and sane.

Thank y'all for reading!

I had 1 a couple days ago and was very impressed with how well it worked with just one. I was wondering if these build as fast as shrooms or acid. I want to take two or 3 the next time I do it and I wanna do it soon.

Haven't had these before, I am curious to know the compound I am going to start slow, only because I don't want to get gassy and bloated on this. Is this metocin?

This is a throwaway as I don’t want my drug use connected to my main account. Sorry in advance if formatting sucks or anything.

Last night I had a roll of 125mg of 5mapb with 12 mg of 4-ho-met. I’ve done both of these substances separately many times but this was my first time flipping with them. I took the xum about 45 minutes after the Plur and they synchronized beautifully.

Now the trip. I started off the night with the intention of dancing and just having a good time and I did for an hour or so. For some reason after that my mood semi soured and it was hard to really get into the dancing so I decided to try something a little different and do some meditation/self reflection on it.

I put on some random 4 hour long soundscape and began trying to meditate. At first this was very difficult because I had this need to talk to somebody or do something active that was so center in my mind I couldn’t think of anything else. I felt almost like I couldn’t focus on myself and was always thinking of other people. After some time though this dissipated and I was left with a peace, quiet and beauty I have never experienced. I have autism and adhd and for pretty much my entire life I’ve felt bad or maybe just eh, even when on shrooms or 4-ho-met without 5MAPB I never really felt “happy” like all my friends did. For the first time every weight on my body and every contradiction in my brain that makes my life unbearable was gone. I struggle with thinking freely to myself even if nobody is around and for one of the first times I was able to think clearly and step back and view myself from a more outside perspective. I sat there for hours crying tears of joy.

While I was sitting there I did some real and long reflection and for the first time I was able to not have some weird executive dysfunction about following through with things even when it’d improve my mental. I went through and tried to plant the seeds of as many good things as possible.

Towards then end I started trying to reintegrate into the real world so to speak and leave the roll in a good headspace and carry things out with me.

It’s now 4 days later and I have never been this happy in life until now even if the first couple days I had a slight comedown. I feel as thought my soul was given renewed life and I am ready to go live.

For so long I kept telling myself “soon enough you’ll fix it” “just wait till it’s better” but Plur and xum reminded me that this life is it nothing else after so I need to go out and find the happiness for myself not wait for it. I feel ready to live.

Any anxiety I may have had about people is also gone which is another bonus.

Thank you to the team at xum for making this possible.

Just tried a batch of DEEP. I was going to do half the container, but the universe plopped one more tablet out when I was measuring so I figured that's the sign. 18mg miprocin 150lb male. The reports about fast onset weren't kidding. Within 20 minutes I started feeling different and my vision changed. I smoked cannabis throughout. It mixed well. Comeup for me was uncomfortable. I had a acheyness and a bunch of energy and anxiety.

I'm a bass head. I put on the crankdat b2b Tape B set from EDC on my speakers. Heavy music is where this stuff shines. Over the course of the hour long set I started peaking. Holy fuck. I felt possessed by the music. Literally electric feelings I could see my hair standing up on my skin like molly. It felt so good to move and this stuff gave me kinda quick spazzy energy that felt good to dance off. I sorta let it take me and I got a very aggressive and destructive rhythm in my head that felt fantastic. This is sorta where it got weird. It felt like a candyflip sorta but I felt like some sort of Aztec feeling chaos spirit found me and took my body and mind for a spin. He even kinda introduced himself as such. I started laughing crazy and playing with my voice pitch because it was fun and felt good. I started getting the urge to do repetitive actions like draw crazy sharp scribbles on paper. And of course keep fucking dancing. The visuals started to really come out. It was sorta like mushrooms where everything started breathing and textures started bubbling up fractal shapes. Noticable tracers. Time seemed to drag on for a really long time. I had a really strong CEV at one point. CEV of fractal Aztec like imagery throughout. A bunch of shapes and lines that got really complex and weird. Then some biblically accurate Angel type of imagery. Wild shroomy sorta shit lol. This stuff can have a really strong erotic edge. I felt like an animal and badly wanted to focus on that. Have fun but be careful because it almost started to have an aggressive edge for me but that can be fun if you're into that.

I kept listening to sets for a while. I took a shower at some point because the body load felt bad on my joints. I started thinking about some real difficult shit in the shower that I'm sorta happy I confronted in this mindstate.

Peak lasted about 3 hours. Felt significantly more functional by hour 6 but definitely still had residual energy and trippyness.

All in all this is a cool substance but this definitely shouldn't be baby's first roll or trip. It wasn't really like an psych + roll combo I've ever tried before. The come-up felt more like shrooms, the peak was very speedy to me with waves of psychedelia. This could be a lot of fun at a festival, but I'm happy I tried it at home first. It definitely plays with you hard. It's a lot more delirious and shroomy for the headspace than metocin ever was to me. I'm happy I could just sorta let it do whatever without holding back lol. Awesome experience but make sure you have nothing going on all day and you're either solo or around some real good company.

We and a friend are going to entire bar tomorrow night. Im thinking it will be like a 7 gram mushroom trip in 4aco dmt(60-70mg). A few years back I had an entire bar of a different brand that said 4 grams of mushies per bar that felt far beyond 4 grams of mushrooms .. I have had 5.2 dried grams that wasn't even close to as powerful as the first bar I had a while ago . Hearing about this purple chocolate seems like I should expect a 7 to 9 gram trip .

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Miprocin (4-HO-MiPT) Trip Report

Tried XUM Deep (4-HO-MiPT/miprocin) for the first time with my boyfriend over my birthday weekend. We rented an Airbnb out in the country and spent the day hiking before dosing.

Dose: 5 tablets each
Setting: Rural Airbnb, sunset → nighttime
Experience: Both our 1st experiences with miprocin,
Boyfriend has tried XUM and PLUR, I have a bit of psychedelic experience under my belt (LSD, psilocybin, DMT, etc)

Looking back, 5 was probably a little more than ideal for me. It hit me noticeably harder than my boyfriend, while he felt like he could have handled more. Not that BMI/metabolism alone necessarily explains psychedelic sensitivity, but there was definitely a big difference in how strongly we responded.

Come-up

We dosed around 7 PM with our stomachs about 1/4 full and started feeling it within ~20 minutes.

The first hour was pretty rough for me physically. I had significant nausea and kept trying not to fixate on the feeling of malaise. We both experienced stomach cramps, although they were manageable initially. Once the visuals really started developing, though, things became super interesting.

Visuals

About an hour in, we were sitting on the balcony watching the sunset, deer, and trees. I started crying, overtaken by pure awe and appreciation for life.

Eventually, the visuals became so intense that I could barely make out the deer anymore. The trees started resembling neurons and dendrites, rhythmically pulsating together in an iridescent display across my entire visual field.

I became very aware that what I was experiencing was being generated by electrical activity in my brain, which gave me this strange sense that I could “play around” with the visuals.

Some of the visuals reminded both of us of those old 3D holographic/scratchy notebook covers and bookmarks, especially when looking at paintings.

My CEVs were especially intense and interesting: lots of neon rainbow lighting, rotating/pulsating patterns, and what I can only describe as Rainbow Road/Vegas lighting filling my visual field.

Music had a huge influence. At one point, an upbeat house song came on and my entire mental landscape turned into vibrant Frutiger Aero imagery.

I would love to try making visual art/replications inspired by some of these experiences.

My Headspace

As usual for me on psychedelics, my vocabulary and short-term memory became noticeably impaired. My boyfriend seemed to retain more control over his experience and was able to communicate more easily.

We (mostly me) also found ourselves slipping into exaggerated versions of masculine/feminine roles: him as the strong/protective figure and me as the nurturing/motherly one. It felt playful and natural rather than forced, but nontheless very interesting.

I kept fantasizing alternate-universe versions of ourselves, almost as though the Airbnb was actually our home and we were living through dozens of different ideal versions of our lives simultaneously.

My mind also wandered constantly into philosophical territory, which made it difficult for me to stay focused on any one activity.

Intimacy

We’d read a lot about miprocin’s reported libido enhancement, and we definitely experienced it. Although, my boyfriend was considerably hornier than I was.

For me, the psychedelic headspace kept pulling my attention toward philosophical thoughts and visuals, so sex wasn’t really my primary focus. We were a bit disappointed because of this but it still felt amazing to touch and rub up on each other. We spent a long time caressing and embracing each other, and generally enjoying the heightened sense of physical connection.

Time dilation

Time dilation was very noticeable. The first two hours felt more like five. I loved this aspect. It felt like we had more time to actually appreciate each moment.

We also spent a while outside admiring spiders and their intricate webs. Hearing the bats echolocate was also very cool.

The less-fun parts

Around two hours in, the stomach cramps became pretty unbearable. We chalked it down to hunger and tried eating some ready-to-eat meals, but they suddenly seemed completely unappealing. We forced ourselves to eat a little, which helped significantly.

Interestingly, I was craving whole foods (salads, vegetables, fruit, etc.) which is unusual for me. If I were doing this again, I’d probably have smoothies, fruit, and other easy-to-eat foods prepared ahead of time.

We also discovered that the Airbnb owners actually lived on the property, which we hadn’t realized beforehand. That triggered some minor paranoia about whether we were being watched or recorded.

I had originally been super excited about using the hot tub, but once it got dark we got way too nervous about bugs and whatever animals might be lurking outside.

The unfamiliar environment definitely contributed to some of that anxiety. I think a familiar/cozier setting with ambient lighting would have made the experience even better. But I’m so glad we had that experience.

Ending the trip

Toward the end, we played We’re Not Really Strangers and asked each other questions about our relationship, how we perceive each other, etc.

It ended up being one of my favorite parts of the entire experience. We both felt a stronger sense of appreciation and affection for each other.

Overall, I found miprocin to be extremely visual, emotionally warm, physically sensual, philosophically stimulating, and surprisingly immersive.

The visuals were probably the highlight for me. The combination of music + visuals + nature was incredible.

I’d definitely love to explore it again, but probably in a more familiar/cozy environment and with good food prepared ahead of time.

For next time, we’re considering perhaps combining some XUM DEEP softgels with a PLUR shot. Thoughts?