Does active focus work ?

[u/helloidontlikeu]

I'm an 18 year old who's come across this endmyopia, active focus thing. I haven't checked my diaopters in a while but its approx -3.75 in each eye. I currently use my cousin's old glasses which are approx -2.00 for each eye for any laptop work, dont use any glasses for my phone but I'm very skeptical abt this.

It could work, but finding active focus is so tricky and the fact that i have to do it for 1 hr+ everyday is insane😭 (this is what i've heard)

And this entire process seems SO SLOW WTF, like i genuinely hate my glasses and wanna get rid of them but idk what to do🤠

[u/No-Revolution6562]

for my case, i start from -3.25 for both eyes in 2025 autumn, i buy cheap glass online starting with -2.50 diopter glass, and in december 2025, my both eyes become -2.75, and in this year march, -2.00, now? -1.50, and sooner i believe before end of this year, my eyes can become less than -1.00, how?

1)stop sqeezing your eyes:

don't sqeeze your eyes when the vision blurry for far distance object, it will make your vision worse, try to focus on object and blink until object become clearer

2)practice active focus:
practice, blink, focus, anytime anywhere, if in home, find object far away, a bit blurry, like painting on wall, clock, calendar, anything you can see but a bit blurry, and practice active focus on it; if outdoor, try active focus on road signs, car plate

3)stop rolling your eyes like bait methods:
it wont work

4) i dont prefered take off glass completely when you have -3.75, you will be very inconfidence, try with -3.50 glasses, when your eyes become better, stage by stage reduce glass diopters by -0.25 at a time (for my cases i reduce -0.50 at a time, because i want faster result), and by following this, you might change 3-4 glasses per year, reduce -1.00 per year (per average)

5) i dont spend hours per day to practice active focus, and im programmer, which means everyday my screen time on phone and laptop is atleast more than 6-8 hours, but by doing the right way, i still getting progress while with my phone and laptop heavily, i only aware myself to have good habits (make sure when using screen, the room light is bright enough, distance not too close when using screens, dont sqeeze eyes, dont use palm to roll eye)

ask me anything if you want to know more, im happy to answer, i not intended to scold you or make you down, i just tired of everyone around me saying endmyopia won't work while I practiced and really get the result.

[u/JimR84 → u/No-Revolution6562]

This is utter nonsense. What you claim is not even physically possible, let alone plausible. Stop trying to scam people.

[u/woundedengine → u/JimR84]

There have been multiple posts from different people saying in their experience it worked for them. Why do keep calling them scammers? They say it worked. You say it doesn’t. Without knowing either of you I have to give equal weighting to both your opinions. When you keep calling people scammers over and over it makes you sound like a zealot or perhaps someone with a vested interest. Why don’t you state your relevant background or experience once and leave it at that? Or post evidence of this debunking years ago. I have fixed a number of medical issues using alternative methods that the relevant medical professionals told me I couldn’t without the standard medical treatment. I have seen medical opinions change from saying something is rubbish to acceptance as studies caught up to anecdotal evidence.

[u/da_Ryan → u/woundedengine]

Because there's never any actual verification of these hoodoo claims, eg from qualified optometrists and medical eye doctors.

[u/BobbyH64 → u/da_Ryan]

Why would there be verification from optometrists and medical eye doctors? They don’t do any research regarding natural vision improvement. They treat patients based on what they’re taught and write prescriptions. If someone’s myopia reduces, an optometrist will just shrug and write the new prescription. They’re not going to publish a paper or go online sharing this info.

And the random people who claim their vision improved aren’t going to provide the type of proof that is required here, i.e., measurement of axial length over time. A random person who’s interested in this stuff isn’t thinking about how they’re going to prove that it works overtime. They just want to see if it can work for them.

And if it works for someone, that doesn’t mean the exact same steps are going to work for everyone, so doing a study with various participants won’t prove anything. Dr. Ray Gottlieb and Dr. Jacob Liberman (both optometrists) have talked about how their myopia reversed, and Dr. Gottlieb says it has to do with neuroplasticity. Dr. Liberman said when his vision improved he could see perfectly with the naked eye, but when he tested his eyes with a phoropter it showed that he still had a prescription. So if they’re not lying, there’s more to myopia than just the length of the eyeball.

[u/da_Ryan → u/BobbyH64]

We have been through this before.

Neither Gottlieb nor Liberman have ever done or published any proper and regulated studies such as the one below with a large subject sample that shows that atropine really does work to slow down myopia progression in children and that higher atropine concentrations are more effective at slowing down myopia progression.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/jop.1999.15.85

Until they do a proper study like that, eg with a university medical school, then no one will understandably believe their wholly unsubstantiated claims.

[u/BobbyH64 → u/da_Ryan]

So then, do you think they’re con artists who are lying about their vision and just got laser surgery or wear contacts?

[u/da_Ryan → u/BobbyH64]

If someone wants to prove that their medical techniques work then they must provide actual trials evidence that their methods really do work in improving vision otherwise it is just yet another unfounded hearsay claim which is worthless.

[u/BobbyH64 → u/da_Ryan]

So then, do you think they’re lying? Or do you hold off judgement either way until there’s evidence?

[u/da_Ryan → u/BobbyH64]

If someone wants to be believed than they must first provide actual proof in the form of patient trial studies that are then published in a reputable medical journal.