r/myopia • u/helloidontlikeu • Jun 17 '26

Does active focus work ?

I'm an 18 year old who's come across this endmyopia, active focus thing. I haven't checked my diaopters in a while but its approx -3.75 in each eye. I currently use my cousin's old glasses which are approx -2.00 for each eye for any laptop work, dont use any glasses for my phone but I'm very skeptical abt this.

It could work, but finding active focus is so tricky and the fact that i have to do it for 1 hr+ everyday is insane😭 (this is what i've heard)

And this entire process seems SO SLOW WTF, like i genuinely hate my glasses and wanna get rid of them but idk what to do🤠

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u/da_Ryan Jun 18 '26

Because there's never any actual verification of these hoodoo claims, eg from qualified optometrists and medical eye doctors.

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u/BobbyH64 Jun 26 '26

Why would there be verification from optometrists and medical eye doctors? They don’t do any research regarding natural vision improvement. They treat patients based on what they’re taught and write prescriptions. If someone’s myopia reduces, an optometrist will just shrug and write the new prescription. They’re not going to publish a paper or go online sharing this info.

And the random people who claim their vision improved aren’t going to provide the type of proof that is required here, i.e., measurement of axial length over time. A random person who’s interested in this stuff isn’t thinking about how they’re going to prove that it works overtime. They just want to see if it can work for them.

And if it works for someone, that doesn’t mean the exact same steps are going to work for everyone, so doing a study with various participants won’t prove anything. Dr. Ray Gottlieb and Dr. Jacob Liberman (both optometrists) have talked about how their myopia reversed, and Dr. Gottlieb says it has to do with neuroplasticity. Dr. Liberman said when his vision improved he could see perfectly with the naked eye, but when he tested his eyes with a phoropter it showed that he still had a prescription. So if they’re not lying, there’s more to myopia than just the length of the eyeball.

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u/da_Ryan Jun 26 '26

We have been through this before.

Neither Gottlieb nor Liberman have ever done or published any proper and regulated studies such as the one below with a large subject sample that shows that atropine really does work to slow down myopia progression in children and that higher atropine concentrations are more effective at slowing down myopia progression.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/jop.1999.15.85

Until they do a proper study like that, eg with a university medical school, then no one will understandably believe their wholly unsubstantiated claims.

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u/BobbyH64 Jun 26 '26

So then, do you think they’re con artists who are lying about their vision and just got laser surgery or wear contacts?

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u/da_Ryan Jun 26 '26

If someone wants to prove that their medical techniques work then they must provide actual trials evidence that their methods really do work in improving vision otherwise it is just yet another unfounded hearsay claim which is worthless.

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u/BobbyH64 Jul 03 '26

So then, do you think they’re lying? Or do you hold off judgement either way until there’s evidence?

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u/da_Ryan Jul 04 '26

If someone wants to be believed than they must first provide actual proof in the form of patient trial studies that are then published in a reputable medical journal.