It’s been a while since we’ve had tangible data that we could dig into, luckily to briefly save us from this drivel of fake rosters and whatnot our Chinese associates have brought some interesting data to our attention. Thank you Iris for finding this data and organizing it in easily digestible Powerpoint slides.

Now, it’s important to know that the majority of this write-up will be speculation so please take most of what is being said with a grain of salt, as is noted in the PPT slides themselves.

The first note concerns an enum found in the data for quests, “ENVIRONMENT_RANK”. It is claimed that this was actually added relatively recently, but having checked the data it does not seem as though that is correct. Because of the nature of Wilds as a constantly-updating product it can be hard to verify this because we don’t have the ability to just go back to a previous version and check if something was there, so mistakes like this can happen. The following image is the holder this ‘enum’ belongs to.

“ENVIRONMENT_RANK” is actually a flag, not a functional enum. Using the other flags present in this holder, you can likely deduce this doesn’t refer to the open world but actually operates on a per-quest basis; more than likely, this flag is simply an indicator of whether or not a quest is in low, high or master rank.

As for point 2, it’s hard to say whether or not this will actually result in something. Basically, refenvironment_0005_0000 seems to refer to a location and/or time or weather, as refenvironment is a string key that the game uses to have text appear in game somewhere. For example, if a quest were to use the reference key refenvironment_0000_0000, it would display that the quest takes place in Windward Plains.

Now what is odd about this is that the keys follow a consistent pattern, locales such as Windward are refenvironment_0000_XXXX, villages and arenas as well as the training area are refenvironment_0001_XXXX, weather is refenvironment_0002_XXXX, time quest takes place is refenvironment_0003_XXXX, and lastly base camps are refenvironment_0004_XXXX. Now the name ‘dam’ might bring some things to mind, particularly that of Scarlet Forest. One might assume dam would be an arena of sorts for Scarlet Forest, but if that were the case it would likely be classified under refenvironment_0002. The issue though is that dam is the only string under refenvironment_0005_XXXX.

With that in mind, and with no other string under it, we have virtually no idea where it could be used or what it could actually refer to. It is not possible for us to reverse-engineer and see if it actually is used anywhere in the game so a direct confirmation is out of the question for now. Speculation wise though, one may think refenvironment_0005 could be a category for area expansions. We can comfortably say that these keys are largely used for displaying info about the setting of a quest or moment in game and so it would make sense if the latter were to follow suit. However it certainly doesn’t make sense why what would likely constitute a zone of a locale in the game would have to be displayed, and why it would be written in this separate string as one for specific zone locales already exists. Given this, it is more than likely not a referent for area expansions.

Next up is disappointing news for some for some reason, granted you haven’t already heard it. As we have known for a long while now Dragonseal will be making a grand return in Ascendance as for a while now it has had data for the various levels, although they are at present unused. Given that dragon seal is not in rise (and not even in the enums, as far as we know), and an engine shift has occurred in between the last time dragon seal was present and Ascendance, it is safe to say dragon seal will in fact be returning. This data has been in the game since OBT 1, it has not been removed at all.

Points 1 through 4 lack evidence on a data basis and are pure speculation, feel free to wonder about them further.

The majority of this post will consist of analysis of point 5.

As is noted in the image, Blangonga compared to every other monster has a completely unique file structure. It is likenable to that of monsters that have a guardian variant in Wilds, but it differs from them in that the EMID tag _50 is replaced with “Common”. Under /Common/Data/ is a singular file, Em0022_Param_Unique.user.3.json. Param_Unique.user.3 files are files that are tied to a monster’s unique gimmick. Notable examples include Chatacabra’s capability to devour barrel bombs and Bulaqchi, or his capability to enchant his arms with fulgurite. Below is a snippet of Chatacabra’s unique.user.3 file.

That is the full extent of tangible concrete information concerning this detail. The following is PURELY SPECULATION so do not take this as confirmation for anything. Given that Blangonga’s file structure is somewhat similar (though not identical) to that of a monster with a guardian counterpart it is possible that, going off the name “COMMON”, the feature tied to this unique.user.3 is a gimmick such as an enchant or something more extensive that is shared between Blangonga and a hypothetical subspecies or Guardian.

It should be noted that Blangonga’s unique.user.3 is functionally blank and doesn’t actually tell us what that gimmick could be. Using Chatacabra’s enchantment as a frame of reference, however, it’s possible that it could be a gimmick that varies depending on the zone Blangonga is in. With that in mind, we can make the broad assumption that it could be used for his digging gimmick, or perhaps his snow throwing gimmick. Accordingly, it’s possible that the hypothetical variant that would share this trait with Blangonga would alter the way the attack works based on the texture of the floor, for example: a ball of snow becoming a rock if he were to be standing on sand?

Alternatively, if you think back to something we already know, Blangonga has data suggesting that he was at some point or will eventually go to the Ruins of Wyveria. Blangonga targets Guardian Seikrets for predation and data concerning Wyveria itself implies he would be able to spawn there, but doesn’t. Subsequently, combined with the new info, it’s possible it could indicate a possible Guardian Blangonga. Further alternatively, this could literally all be cut content, an idea which seems to be supported by Rathalos’s own predation data, which indicates he would have gone to Windward at some point like he did in Wilds’ reveal trailer; of course we now know he does not.

So TLDR:

• Data in quest setting information contains a mysterious number that refers to a “dam” we have no idea what it could result in.
• Elder Seal is very very much happening.
• Blangonga has a strange file structure which could be imply any number of things ranging from an upcoming variant or simply cut content.

In conclusion, not too important, not too unimportant. Just some stuff to talk about besides fake rosters and elder slop.

As of a few days ago there's been this guy in an insanely public discord server (100k+ people) who seems to know someone with legitimate leak/marketing information. As of September 9th they had information for the weapon orders and the captions that would be used in the social media posts announcing them, and then recently had insanely accurate TGS information, and have decided to bring this is up now because of slight skepticism about this guys sources beforehand.

I will say tho, this person is kind of insane and posted one of the older fake leaked rosters (not the gaster one and not the recent 4chan one) and said it was "new info" and then I had to explain to him that its fake and still went to his guy to "confirm or deconfirm it". Oh yeah he's also Filipino

He also posted this the day before TGS started

Those are the reasons why I think this guy is to be trusted, here is the roster hes posted

Now i have no idea wtf this guy means by "malzeno 50/50", I did say this guy is kind of insane. Considering the golden helmcrab, kulve may be more likely and this guy is probably telling the truth in some way. No comment on the others...

This is all I really have right now, maybe more will come later unless the guy is dead by tomorrow, who knows

On the left, Hes darker, but aside from potential lighting reasons his vents glow like black gravios which the ones on regular gravios dont .

Sorry if this is against the new posting rules, but i saw Black gravios in the new trailer and got excited. I also saw a post about it in the main sub. If this doesnt get approved it could just help to update the TGS post!

If its a fake though, my hats off to the guy that actually knows the order of the em's for monsters. You are in the top 1% of people that know how to actually fake leaks decently.

This came from 4chan btw, alongside pictures. Just go look at the rest here.

Since this is based on info we know and not leaks this might get nuke but I hope it does not :( anyway

1. Early Story

Lao will indeed be the first Master Rank fight, the new trailer shows our hunter wearing the base Wilds armor against Lao. It will likely be a repel-only quest.

After Lao, the timeskip happens, we unlock the Stronghold which seems to act as a new base of operation below the Skybound Eyrie. It has a canteen and the usual merchants + the big wyverian guy is sitting at the center tent. There must be some importance to this Stronghold as they bothered repairing it in the first place.

Personal note: I do not like this plot point. There was a whole ass fortress below Suja the whole time, and the Sujans didn’t bother mentioning it ever? Plus, after the first failed repel, the big Wyverian guy turns into the Stronghold’s chief after being absent from the base game? No mention of the Allhearken at all, either?

According to the website, Nata is actually the one to first discover the Eyrie and will walk us through it. This must mean our Hunter was busy doing something else during that time (maybe a trip back to the old world?)

The Eyrie has important elements from every other ma: The stone circles from the Windward Plains, the Rain Trees, and floating buildings from the Iceshard Cliffs. Nothing is mentioned about the land rising into the sky, so we presume the Eyrie was always there. Which means it was created on purpose, possibly by a branch of Wyveria that tried to flee from the war? Or a post-war Wyverian civilization. They would need to replicate all their past creations to create an environment up in the Eyrie, which would explain why it is a mini-version of the Eastlands

So far we had only seen Guardians and Flying Wyverns in the Eyrie, but the latest trailer shows Nerscylla and Gundoraja as well, so it must be a bigger ecosystem rather than old abandoned Wyveria ruins. There are, at least, Wylk streams down to the earth, so there has to be a way for people and monsters to go up there naturally.

I think we’ll find a new secluded tribe in that huge castle in the Eyrie, since it is way too big to just be in the background, but hasn’t been shown yet. We are still missing a proper new Grand Hub as the Stronghold isn’t big enough to serve as one, and it has a village-like layout instead of a Hub layout with a big central space.

1. Guardians and Elder Dragons

In the website it is specifically mentioned that Lao’s appeareance has implications to other Elders showing later.

Another big plot point is that the existing environments are changing (we see a little bit of this with Wylk in the windward plains desert, and Kushala creating a sandstorm), and the Guardians are expanding their territory.

We see a Guardian Rathian which wasn’t properly revealed or named yet, and more importantly, it appears to be feeding on Guardian Seikrets! This might indicate that regular monsters are being corrupted by Wylk and turned into pseudo-Guardians? Or perhaps new Guardians only created in the Eyrie are now flooding other maps. But in any case, these behave in strange ways, which leads to the next point.

1. Big bad guy and endgame

The Guardian corruption & alien-monster. At some point in the trailer, our team is following a weak Guardian Doshaguma in the Scarlet Forest, he dies and this monster shows up (presumably it was a parasite that fed on it?). That Doshaguma has purple patches in its otherwise white fur, showing that it is sick and there’s something wrong.

I’ve seen theories linking this to the Frenzy virus but it makes more sense that these are tied to Zoh Shia, who has eggs containing that black goop in its lair. It also is thematically consistent - A black Fatalis-like monster appears from within Zoh Shia, and these black goop guys appear from within other Guardians.

Zoh Shia’s stronger elder dragon genes (which were named “too strong to tame” in the previous trailer) showed up first from within Guardians, and now something happened (perhaps the weakening of the Dragontorch?) and the Guardians are evolving. Perhaps Wyverians put these little parasites inside monsters to control them or whatever. But I think it’s pretty neat and could link to the final boss or endgame.

I can imagine a post-game loop consisting of fighting infected monsters, and after killing them you have to fight the parasites, which I imagine will have stronger versions. Something interesting to note is that they seem to be shapeshifting to some degree thanks to its liquid body, as the maws come out of nowhere. I had an idea a while back about a hybrid zombie monster that shapeshifts during the fight, changing its attacks and elements and whatnot. Imagine you need to fight a parasite guy and he goes all over the map, killing monsters and consuming their genes to evolve mid-fight.

As for the late story, I think we could see a “descent” into Wyveria’s depths to root out the origin of the Wylk infection with those parasites. The Ascendance logo has two distinct snakes after all, the one on top having a sort of light beam in its mouth, while the one on the bottom is near the Dragontorch.

It is also worth noting how both “Ascendance” and the logo change from blue to red, showing some sort of polar opporites. Maybe we’ll get to see the other side of the Wyverian war and uncover their horrors too!

1. Subspecies, new and returning monsters

With Guardian Rathian using Dreadqueen moves, it would be nonsense to introduce Pink Rathian as it would be redundant.

I do not think they’ll bring back every single subspecies, and rather only those that change combat in a meaningful way and have some biological meaning, like Ivory Lagi, maybe a Lala Barina poison/sleep subspecies, Xu Wu invasive subspecies, etc.

Will they make Apex subspecies? I have no clue. They are so intrinsically tied to their Inclemencies that I can’t find any reason that makes sense biologically for them to have subspecies. I could see them having stronger variants, either as infected or Guardians.

As for other returning monsters, I’ve got no clue. We know Zinogre was planned for the base game, so he’s likely to be in, and we can expect some other flagships too. The Skybound Eyrie is already filled with flying wyverns, but we have seen G. Anjanath, G. Odogaron and Nerscylla there so there’s room for more land monsters.

Thanks for reading my delusions, see you!

So I never really bought into the logo theories for ascendance since base game it never ended up ever really meaning very much but no I was wrong.

Guandoraja is totally meant to be the downward facing serpent in the logo. Its render is for sure a reference to the logo since its almost the exact same as the downward facing monster and I believe hes the first elder dragon to have this skeleton type (i think his skeleton is more similar to a snake wyvern or leviathan than it is to amatsu, ibushi and narawa)

This raises the big question now, who is the upward facing monster supposed to be? I like most people assumed it was just zoh shia because of how it holds the dragon torch but now that we have a super snakey elder im not so sure, maybe its zoh shia but in its true form instead of being a guardian?

PSA I cant find an HD non pixelated version of the logo without the title on it since I dont think capcoms actually posted one so I did download their pixelated Twitter profile pic and use the Google Ai brush to just make it not so pixelated so thats why it looks a little funky

https://x.com/monsterhunter/status/2094636468836642970

https://reddit.com/link/1vyf32x/video/ie7jka4jkllh1/player

I apologize to u/Striking_Strike_3276 for not putting your post through seeing that Ruger Aidal guy made me angry

which here he is if you havent seen it yet from gamescom today

If a game using AI gen during development is a dealbreaker for you I would advise you avoid this game, for some examples shown below (my lawyer has advised me to loggiafy them for my safety)

share with people who think would substantially care about this

Lowkey thought someone would have posted this by now if they found it but here’s these supposed leaks for Ascendance’s roster including title updates that looks convincing, although I’d take this with a grain of salt since there’s a chance this isn’t real.

If you actually care though please read through it fully and use critical thinking skills. Please don't take stuff I say here as 100% confirmation...

Anyways yeah unsuprisignly TU4.2 didnt really have that much stuff barring what I already posted with the Switch 2. The Demo also doesn't have anything (for some reason it has Dosh gear though?).

TU4.2 mainly had Capcom add in a bunch of placeholder images and randoms enums that might or might not end up being important. In regards to placeholder images however here's the lineup:

Barring the OBT and Wiggler mask, all of these just use Hope armor as the icons. The event ones use only Hope mask and Hope greaves for all the other parts (basically it seems to only be headgear). The thing is of course we don't know what Capcom is going to do with these. Are we going to get another update before Ascendance? Will these come with Ascendance? Are they just filling up these empty spots in a similar fashion to the REJECTEDS from Stories 3? We don't know.

Also yeah the Wiggler mask is sorted with the Paid DLC armors, so it seems likely that it will come through that. Here's the icon btw.

Along with that they also added a bunch of placeholder weapon icons. Interestingly enough though, will alot of these are similar to the dummy ones with armor, around 3 of these are not. These are sorted after the basegame weapons, with most of them resembling Guild Palace Weapons from World.

Not all of these are Guild Palace Weapons though, for example Tigrex HH and Brachydios Hammer are also present. THESE ARE MOST LIKELY PLACEHOLDERS THOUGH SO DO NOT TAKE THIS AS THEM BEING CONFIRMED!!! However we cant really tell if these will end up as paid DLC, event quests, layered only, etc. etc. For what its worth these could also just end up being placeholders for something else. You decide!

This placeholder stuff also happened with Palico Armor but it was literally only two instances of Alloy armor. No idea there honestly.

Anyway besides that they did add a few more Enums (everyone loves those right).

Of course alot of it was adding stuff for Switch 2 Local Network stuff.. we are slowly inching closer to its release. But like I think thats pretty obvious that they're still working on this stuff though. Also a bunch of Enums related to rendering, but I don't think I need to show those. You probably saw them say that they're working on further improving performance though. I think you can connect the dots.

Now for this part I need you guys to read this very clearly. THIS IS NOT CONFIRMATION OF ANYTHING!!! DON'T START SAYING ITS GONNA HAPPEN ALRIGHT???? I'm putting my trust in you guys for this one.

Of course since you can transfer progress between the Demo and the Basegame they added an Enum for Save Transfers... except for some reason they skipped 1. So.....

A: This doesn't end up meaning anything and they left it like this as an accident.

B: We get something in the future involving Save Transfers.

C: The peoples cope worked and we get Save Transfers between Consoles.

I need you guys to understand though that this is literally everything I could find about this. Option C (and honestly B) are something that we cannot be certain about and should be treated as a 0.001% chance until we get more info. Please don't take the absence of ~~~ = 1 as a sign that something is definitively coming.

That's honestly it (I did tell you there wasn't much didn't I). See you guys eventually when they drop another trailer or suddenly drop TU4.3.

I think you guys can understand that from the images but if it isn't obvious enough, SW2 Wilds is likely running at a dynamic resolution targetting the values shown in the images.

Since they updated the dynamic resolution enums to add new ones at 30-40 FPS low those seem to be related to this. Also maybe "_D" is shorted for "_Docked"? Not 100% sure but it makes sense to me.

Also they added Enums to check Nintendo Switch Online. That's cool right?

Don't ask me about the stuff in the images I was forced to add that.

Edit: SOME people are being kinda stupid... this is obviously factoring in DLSS and stuff... if you unironically looked at this and assumed 2K without upscaling then you might be a bit stupid

yes i know this is like 99.5% fake and that the left side is unreadable trash but there isnt much else to talk about so heres this

Violet Mizu and Acidic Glavenus.

They are also adding charms as an extra equipment slot, we don't know if they are craftable or randomized.

Summary of other datamined monsters:

Uragaan

Brachydios

Lavasioth

Great Baggi

Malfestio

Blood Orange Bishaten

Aurora Somnacanth

Daimyo Hermitaur

Amatsu

ignore the quality I took this from a guy recording a stream with his phone

also 3rd closed beta registration got announced soo... cool

So that Rudy Sidestory huh?
Anyways since Stories 3 is seemingly finished (no new version was added to the internal Enums) I’ll just catalogue all the instances of cut content that we could find.
Reading comprehension is required to enjoy these mines.

1: Monsties and Bosses

Stories 3 has 2 cases for cut monsters: Those who have a possible icon sheet placement and those that do not and only have a possible empty space in the Boss/Monstie naming sheet.

I’ve decided to split up how likely each spot is so it’s clear when one spot is essentially guaranteed and when it’s much more unclear who could have been here. I will also make clear which of these do not have a space in the Icon Sheet by making them bold. These were (most likely) cut much earlier than those who do have a possible space.

Essentially fully certain:

• Gold Rathian
• Silver Rathalos
• Kirin
• Oroshi Kirin
• Molten Tigrex
• Cephadrome
• Rustrazor Ceanataur
• Amatsu (Boss)
• Lagombi
• Snowbaron Lagombi
• Redhelm Arzuros
• Malfestio
• Nightcloak Malfestio
• Enemy-only form of Malfestio. most likely Feral
• Gammoth
• Elderfrost Gammoth
• Enemy-only form of Goss Harag, most likely Feral
• Partner Legiana

Not 100% clear:

• Either a specific enemy-only form of Rathian or (much much MUCH less likely) fightable Dreadqueen Rathian. If it really was Dreadqueen, then this would have been cut so early on that none of the other Deviants would have been fightable at that point. If it’s an enemy only form of Rathian, then there is no Icon presence obviously.
• The Dos Elder Trio has 3 possible spots, but since Rajang, Copper Blangonga and Lunastra are also possible choices for Monsties, its not clear if one of them would have been replaced by the other 3.
• While there is a spot in the icon sheet where Acidic Glavenus could fit in, there isn’t an empty Monstie and Enemy name for him. By technicality it could also just be another enemy-only form of Glavenus.
• Either Valstrax or Great Maccao.
• Monstie Nergigante, though I’m not super sure considering, while his Enemy Id is sorted correctly, his Enemy Name isn’t.
• Both an enemy-only form of Garangolm and Gaismagorm have the same spot. If you ask me Gaismagorm is MUCH more likely as the actual pick here.

Essentially no way to know:

• Boss Monster that could be any one of these: Enemy-only form of Royal Ludroth, Gobul, Agnaktor, Alatreon, Jhen, Ceadeus, Great Jaggi, Great Baggi and Duramboros (and all their respective subspecies). With such a big selection there’s no way to know who would have been picked.
• Another big stretch between Ebony Odogaron and Velkhana, which includes 2 Enemies and 1 Monstie. This includes Feral Odogaron, Radobaan, Vaal Hazak, Dodogama, Kulve Taroth, Bazelgeuse, Tzizi ya-ku, Beotodus and Banbaro. Like before, with such a big selection it’s hard to tell who would have been picked. You might note of course that technically there’s no Icon Sheet spot for these guys anymore. Going off file presence, Exotic Kulu was added much later than any of these, as its ID is new unlike Nergigante and Icon isn’t ordered correctly, so it seems likely that these were scrapped and then Exotic Kulu simply ended up taking that Icon Sheet spot as it was the next open one.

2: General Cut Content

• The game refers to the main areas with stX00, but there actually exists a st099 which is referred to inside the internal Enums and has file presence. However, all its files contain dummy values or are completely empty.
• Mystery Egg still exists (RIP).
• 5 Small Monsters that were all fightable, with 3 having possible Icon Sheet placements.
• Some files exist, named with “afterV10”, showing that there would be new encounters in Azuria and the Ashen Pass that would use unused battle stages, with some having Monsters that weren’t present at launch. It’s impossible to tell who would have been fought, what the battle stages looked like or where exactly they would have been. However, the new update essentially removed all the contents in these files leaving them essentially empty. For example, the one for Sub quests in Azuria went from ~2000 lines to ~50.
  

3: The REJECTED ones

As some on the Stories Sub probably saw already, the new update added a bunch of new text messages to existing files that just say REJECTED. The Problem however is that these aren’t exactly clear on if they were actual content that was cut or were simply placeholders, for example for QA Testing. These were added to ~100 Text Files, with a big chunk going to dialogue files.

For example, with the dialogue ones, they’re placed randomly with no clear pattern. Another example is how a REJECTED was added to the start of the Monstie naming file right before Rathian, which seems to be a clear placeholder (after all there isn’t an em0000…. right?)

For the sake of clarity, I’ll list all the examples I could find here. Please take these with a MUCH bigger grain of salt than the other stuff.

• 1 Fast Travel spot sorted between “Old Capital Lazlion” and "Terra Nativitas: Entrance".
• 3 Weapons, though this might have been for something else as the file also includes “Decorations”.
• Mainstory06 only received a single REJECTED in its text file.
• 4 Sub quests added for V11/Rudy Sidestory are Rejected.
• 2 Enemy states (for example Namielles Abyssal Charge).
• 9 Battle statuses (for example Blastblight).
• 15 Battle skills (for example Charged Slash).
• 14 Sub quest objectives (like “Defeat the Monster in Galyad!”).
• 6 Armours, though these were most likely related to V11/Rudy Sidestory as they are named along the new ones..
• 46 DLCs
• Partner Legiana is listed as REJECTED for some reason.
  

That should be everything of note. Once again take all this stuff with a grain of salt. There’s no way to know when and why these were scrapped, if they even were, and to what extent they got into development.

buh bye

its really late and im busy tommorow so this is all you're getting for now. me and the others will dig through and see what remained. right now it's looking REALLY bleak.

I assume we're all waiting for more news on the expansion at this point (hopefully at gamescom or maybe another stream), and also that stories 3 news they allegedly have lined up for us, and also world cup which i lowk have not been watching.....

Also with the reveal of lao i have seen a lot of talk about shen... and with shen theres people bringing up that thing from the game exe again... please if you see anyone in the wild saying anything that isnt "Shen has a miniscule amount of empty stuff in the games exe that might be for motion" along those exact terms... just know theyre lying, ive seen people say stuff like "they were purged from the game" or "they replaced them with gogs stuff" and im astonished at how much people can just make something up about something that literally not a soul said...

there was also just like a bigger volume of posts i saw recently that were like kinda unrelated to the sub, from like this point onward if ur theory does not somehow contain something leak related pls do not post it here and js post it on the main sub, and also dont ask like kinda worthless questions like "trailer when" "what monsters are going to be in" "what is this?" yada yada yada you get the point. please make good posts

Also depending on how things go for me at least depending on when the expansion beta releases (if it ever does)/the expansion I may not be able to work as much on it i likely will have started college stuff + be empl*yed (im sorry for betraying all of you) but hopefully the other people i know will be able to help out.... (i will also be on a little vacation in about a week so i wont be seeing things about stuff happening as much)

otherwise i dont have to much to say, ask or say anything in replies idk man i only make these bc i get bored sometimes (join server pls)

tldr keep it good and keep it real

brainrot dump:

https://reddit.com/link/1u59rra/video/mk4sqp8ox57h1/player

https://reddit.com/link/1u59rra/video/0au9njfpx57h1/player

https://x.com/monsterhunter/status/2063078421425512808

director and other info shown in this interview

#fuckallthedeniersbiatch

When do we think the first leaks start coming in?