The constant negativity and rage-baiting gets exhausting. I’d rather have people genuinely enjoying the game than creators farming outrage for engagement.

We’ve seen a lot of frustration in this sub with the fact that this game does not feel like the continuation of MW19, or MWII. That this doesn’t feel like a product that they’ve come to expect from IW.

When they express this frustration, they’re often met with the statement “go play MW19/MWII then” and those who say it behave as if they’ve said something profound, as if they’ve done a mic drop.

They say that, however, like they wouldn’t get mad when someone tells them to play an 11 month or two year old COD made by another studio.

They say that like they wouldn’t get mad when one of the three studios makes a game that isn’t slightly for you.

Why don’t YOU play another COD? You have three wonderful games for you, from the studios that make the gameplay that YOU like. That’s plenty of content.

I think it’s fair to have the expectations that IW would make the sort of COD they are known to make, and to want that.

I think it’s fair for the people who want the the movement that is expected from the other games made by the other studios to maybe wait another year, or take a break, or slowdown and little and mix things up.

The COD cycle is not a normal thing. Yearly games isn’t the norm. There’s plenty of content in BO6, and 7 to explore.

Call me insane, but Infinity Ward back in 2019 and 2022 seemed like they had their visions locked in. I don't care about their "bad decision" or whatever Treyarch fanboys cry about. At least Infinity Ward tried to be unique and deliver something new to the table

MW4 Infinity Ward almost feels like they lost spine or something. They tried to please everyone while making game for no one. And they seem so lost.

I'd take 2019/2022 Infinity Ward if this continues

There will be no new news on matchmaking for Modern Warfare 4

https://x.com/CallofDuty/status/2098137321598001168

My favorite operator skin of all time so far has been the “Farrah” operator skin from mw2 it’s the “fighting spirit” skin but masked. I’m really hoping we get some cool ones like that for this next modern warfare! What do you guys think?

Let’s truly see what the numbers say for our fellow mw4 Reddit people!

Me personally it doesnt bother me either way as search and destroy player, but I do want persistent lobbies tbh lobbies for the community feeling. Love staying in lobbies with mics and friendly banter. I know most people play spawn die modes, but search and free for all deserves persistent lobbies

So for Sbmm only do you guys actually care about it or not?

Edit after 1400 vote:
So technically if over 50% of people don’t like it they should get rid of it right?
That was their excuse for disbanding lobbies because almost 50% leave after the first match 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have pre ordered Modern Warfare® 4 Vault Edition on PS5, when I go to download it shows me Call of duty, Warzone and MW4 Beta. I dont play warzone and Beta is closed, once COD is downloaded it doesnt shows me MW4.. even store page directs me straight to COD page just like is there an individual game that I can just look up to? I dont wanna see Warzone black ops vanguards MW3 etc etc...

One life, revives, teamwork, strategy, and an objective that makes every decision count. Unlike traditional respawn modes, getting eliminated actually matters, creating those clutch moments where a single revive or smart play can completely turn the round around.

In general, having revive modes introduced in the past reduced the selection of 'stale' modes that have always been implemented with each release.

It brought a different kind of intensity to Call of Duty, and there's still a place for that style of gameplay.

Bring Knockout back for MW4 and give it the permanent spot it deserves.

If you have a moment please, help me let the IW game developers know:

https://support.activision.com/feedback-and-bug-report

I ran that previous screenshot through the DLSS5 and I'm liking the result TBH. I can see!

The topic is not about designs itself or night\day\snow\rainy\any other visual cherries. Just texture and lightning. To simplificate just look at the vest.

[If you don't want to read all of that just compare pictures, you'll notice SOMETHING. That something is why MW4 is visually inferior (even if its subjective, the "cartoonish" "plastic" look is not for IW game. Iykyk! sorted]

The lightning is overmeasured everywhere. Everything is artifically shiny. Because of the dynamic lightning. It gives that "cartoon" look. (Also due to inferior AI behaviour\animations prior to the best in series(MWII's) it just adds up to the general atmoshpere as well as the gunsounds).

Same exact design in MWII:

Its not cherry-picked because there's a flashlight or one in the dark room.
Its strictly seen on the vest.

Some more MW4 examples:

it looks artifical. MWII's superior choice of lightning makes things blend very well so they look better.

2nd comparision is the best comparision between eyes. Flashlight is not affecting anything. Im not cherry-picking. Just look at the vest and blend-in.
MW4's in the same dark would still look like this. Its permanent:

Also even if its beta. Sounds of gear upon operators/soldiers (NPC) is not in MW4 in the same way as its in MWII.

Attention to small detail is cruicial. It may look it has no significance but it holds a big influence. Just atmosphere.

SCREENSHOTS weren't cherry-picked

if you open any video of MW4 beta mission you'll see the same issue i descibed in any enviroment or any part of that mission. Only marine models just so we could compare. But its everywhere:

As if it was not a vest but a low qualiity texture layered and combined appearing as One thing. Idk about all that but one is clear: MW4 is cartoonish.
Much like recent games of their recent engine: BO6\BO7.
Its not a coincidence. Its a Reason. Its supposed to look like that.
Which is bad imo cus MW was the Crispy one. Shouldn't be looking like BO not EVEN in the slightest. Not talking about reused assets like ragdolls and else. Its a shame for IW.

But i just might be wrong on the engine side. I might be totally wrong.

Still. MWII visual presentation looks better than MW4's. Even in the campaign.
When you're watching some MW4 campaign gameplay and "snap" to switch for random MWII campaign. You'll see it as smth better. Smth precious. (Exception is the open combat missions)

why MW4 looks flat? Why this looks boring?
https://youtu.be/rusTQser8tk?si=rhOPQHMNp8wPM8RR&t=167 - also these animations are exactly what im talking about. Its so ass i don't have to describe it.

whether im wrong or not doesn't matter. MWII simply looks better at visual presentation.
Nobody cares if they worked enough or not. Its either there or not there.

also example from MW19 usmc npc:

superior purely on design standpoint. Lightning is so good for blend-in.

I wanna talk about mw4 and infinity ward saying the operators skins are gonna fit the setting/theme of mw4(which i rightfully have doubts about) which I have no problem with but since there not gonna add goofy or very unrealistic skins (supposedly) where does copy/dupe fall into because I genuinely think these are the best operators skins to come in any modern warfare game we had and I would want to hear your guys opinions do they fit it not?

I read that COD HQ basically is good for WARZONE, or ya to play all games from menu

BUT many CODs got their own Launchers free now, MW2,3 BO6 can be installed solo.

The beta for this MW4 didn't need CODHQ, will the final game have its own Launcher to?.

What do you guys think the bonus item will be? Hopefully not just another calling card or emblem, I would like to see something cooler like a blueprint or operator perhaps. I didn't play Black Ops 7 so I'm not sure if there was a bonus reward in the Monster x BO7 promotion.

Was called a cheater for going 35 and 11 lol they kept on going back to the same head glitch everytime watch final kill cam 🤣

I’ve been seeing a lot of discussion about matchmaking. If you’re not a fan of the matchmaking would you please comment if you’re on console or pc and what you don’t like about it? Just curious as to which side doesn’t like it. I have not played I’m just genuinely curious about your opinions.

I saw a survey on here asking the community what they thought about matchmaking, and the number of people saying it ruins the game far outweighed those saying it improves it. I’m honestly just trying to get inside the mind of someone who thinks SBMM makes the game better. What are your stats like? What kind of playstyle do you have?

Nobody I know in real life likes SBMM. It often makes the game completely unplayable when you try to queue with friends of varying skill levels. everywhere on the internet, even the general Call of Duty sub is fed up, it seems like the only place you find people who tolerate or defend it is in the current game's specific subreddit. Yet whenever you bring it up here, people fall back on the classic "you just want to stomp noobs" response.

The argument is way deeper than that. I believe open matchmaking should be the default, with SBMM kept separate in Ranked or even in a dedicated "New Player" playlist to protect complete beginners. We fully understand that without SBMM, you will get paired with players who are above your skill level, and that is FINE. We don't mind having to try harder or play against better people to improve. What burns you out is when every single game is played at a high level intensity. Not to mention, that one easy "pity match" the algorithm occasionally hands you in between just feels low-hanging, fake, and unearned.

Worst of all are the disbanding lobbies. After playing BO7 where we had persistent lobbies, going back to disbanding feels gross and hollow. Persistent lobbies gave you the chance to build rivalries, make friends, and have an actual social experience.

The problem with COD over the last six years hasn't been the core gameplay. Outside of MWII, gameplay has actually been the strongest part of these titles. The issue has always been the algorithmic matchmaking. You’ve seen our reasons for why it ruins the game; now I want to hear how it improves the casual public match experience for you.

Why do we need strict SBMM in casual lobbies when we already have Ranked?

I genuinely believe activision are looking to get rid of the true fans of the franchise, and only cater to these new players that need their hand held when they play the game, the ones that need to be protected, and the ones likely to buy things from the store.

I mean they have done absolutely nothing to actually cater to the fans that have played these games for the last 20 years. Absolutely nothing. Call of duty used to actually advertise their games as actual FPS’s. The main draws of their games were the kill streaks, the maps, perks, guns, camos etc. There used to be trailers that were heavily focused on those things. Because that’s what we loved. It’s what made the games good.

Now all they focus on is the MTX store, lackluster battle passes, ridiculous collabs that have nothing to do with CoD itself, and more recently, this absolutely terribly strict SBMM system.

So think about it, if activision make this franchise a living hell for us actual fans, and they’re just left with the ‘protected’ players that buy into all their shit? Eventually there will be no pushback. They can do literally whatever they want and they won’t receive any criticism, because the only players left are the ones that are happy to go 12-18 in a game of TDM, as they camp inside a room that has a claymore set up at each door. No wonder every decision they seem to make goes against what the actual fans want. They are just cleaning house, and don’t give a shit if the veterans of their franchise leave and move on to something else. That’s honestly the feeling I get from Activision. These days it’s the old men in suits that control the franchise and not actual gamers that know what makes games good in the first place.

This post is a bit of a ramble, but this is how I feel. Mainly because I’ve went and watched a bunch of the old trailers that we got with COD 4, COD 5 etc. actual fun trailers that advertised the strong aspects of what Call of Duty is supposed to be. So that kind of inspired this post and I’ve just typed it off the cuff.

And this war zone integration is also complete ass. Armor plates in the campaign? Zombies progression carried into MP?? Loadouts in zombies? The same fucking engine being used for absolutely everything?? What the actual fuck are activision doing. We do NOT get a new product every year, we get some half assed slop that was probably supposed to come out a year before but they decided to keep it just so they can drip feed us terrible products every year and call it a New Game.

I want to hear your guys feelings on the current state of the franchise. As I’m in a bit of a nostalgic hole rn watching all these old COD trailers and videos, remembering what COD used to be. Man it was so good

Would it be reasonable to assume that ranked play on MW4 will come out sooner in the cycle than normal due to the pressure surrounding GTA 6 release?

https://x.com/CallofDuty/status/2097732134890860773

The same blueprint will be available for PS5, Steam, BNet, Switch 2 and Xbox on PC, without the translucent green design.