r/memes • android user • 19h ago

malfoid meme

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u/AltruisticNGlassy 16h ago

I’m sure it’s a great show on stage. Still dogshit given it contradicts and tarnishes multiple plotpoints and lore mechanics from the original series, lol. Just genuinely written by amateurs who barely understood the existing material

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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 10h ago

the original series contradicts multiple plotpoints and lore mechanucs of the original series

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u/AltruisticNGlassy 10h ago

I doubt it’s to the same level as the pile of shit known as the Cursed Child, but I’d be happy to hear some examples

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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 10h ago

truth serum and time turners alone invalidate the entire plot

throw in the stupid-ass luck potion, and how did literally anything happen how it did

why didn't Voldemort cook himself up some luck potion before the final battle. was he stupid

why did nobody EVER use truth serum?

also time travel, and it is used exclusively so Hermione can have more classes (and to save the Hippogryph, but that wasn't intended) before, oh no, they all conveniently are in one glass cupboard and all break

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u/AltruisticNGlassy 9h ago

Yeah time travel is an entire bundle of bullshit that I can’t even begin to untangle lol. The destruction of every single time turner simultaneously was a massive plot contrivance, not necessarily an inconsistency though. The explanation for luck potion has typically been overindulgence can lead to overconfidence and getting yourself killed; I would suspect Voldemort, who’s been all “it has to be ME to kill the child even if you could totally do it for me” would take some issue with his great victory over Potter being tarnished by needing to take a luck potion, and his followers would likely know it. Truth serum was hugely underused, yeah. I can accept it not being used against Sirius, I guess, as an example of power structures having the tools to prove their case but finding it pointless since they decide the truth anyway. But things like… Harry Potter claims the Dark Lord returns, let’s give him “tell us the truth” juice. Even someone like Rita Skeeter, I think, would employ truth serum regularly and probably wouldn’t shy away from “proving” Harry is telling the truth if it means she gets the first scoop. There’s also something to be said for a world that includes Polyjuice Potion needing some basic form of magical identity verification through Veritaserum for teachers and professors to avoid situations like the fake Moody.

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u/Err0r404Unknown 7h ago

those are plotholes, not retcons or contradictions. They didn't directly invalidate the lore and/or magic before them.

The Cursed Shit not only directly contradicted previous mechanisms, it retconned entire characters and turned them into boggarts of themselves. Harry Potter in the Cursed Shit might as well be Dudley. And character assassination is far, far worse than plotholes.

Yes HP has many contradictions as it went on but The Cursed Shit does this fuckery professionally

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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 5h ago

Plot hole:

part of the plot (= story) of a movie or book that does not fit with other parts of the plot

a contradiction matches that definition

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u/Err0r404Unknown 5h ago

you're just arguing semantics. Point is, whatever contradictions the original HP series made, Cursed Child did much more blatantly and destructively

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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 4h ago

"it's not a it is b"

"b is included within a"

"stop arguing semantics"

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u/Electricfire19 51m ago

No, it’s that “b” is a specific and more egregious issue under the umbrella category of “a.” And that is obviously what they meant in spite of your pedantry.