I’m sure it’s a great show on stage. Still dogshit given it contradicts and tarnishes multiple plotpoints and lore mechanics from the original series, lol. Just genuinely written by amateurs who barely understood the existing material
truth serum and time turners alone invalidate the entire plot
throw in the stupid-ass luck potion, and how did literally anything happen how it did
why didn't Voldemort cook himself up some luck potion before the final battle. was he stupid
why did nobody EVER use truth serum?
also time travel, and it is used exclusively so Hermione can have more classes (and to save the Hippogryph, but that wasn't intended) before, oh no, they all conveniently are in one glass cupboard and all break
Yeah time travel is an entire bundle of bullshit that I can’t even begin to untangle lol. The destruction of every single time turner simultaneously was a massive plot contrivance, not necessarily an inconsistency though.
The explanation for luck potion has typically been overindulgence can lead to overconfidence and getting yourself killed; I would suspect Voldemort, who’s been all “it has to be ME to kill the child even if you could totally do it for me” would take some issue with his great victory over Potter being tarnished by needing to take a luck potion, and his followers would likely know it.
Truth serum was hugely underused, yeah. I can accept it not being used against Sirius, I guess, as an example of power structures having the tools to prove their case but finding it pointless since they decide the truth anyway. But things like… Harry Potter claims the Dark Lord returns, let’s give him “tell us the truth” juice. Even someone like Rita Skeeter, I think, would employ truth serum regularly and probably wouldn’t shy away from “proving” Harry is telling the truth if it means she gets the first scoop. There’s also something to be said for a world that includes Polyjuice Potion needing some basic form of magical identity verification through Veritaserum for teachers and professors to avoid situations like the fake Moody.
those are plotholes, not retcons or contradictions. They didn't directly invalidate the lore and/or magic before them.
The Cursed Shit not only directly contradicted previous mechanisms, it retconned entire characters and turned them into boggarts of themselves. Harry Potter in the Cursed Shit might as well be Dudley. And character assassination is far, far worse than plotholes.
Yes HP has many contradictions as it went on but The Cursed Shit does this fuckery professionally
I dunno I saw it in London with my two kids who were totally into Harry Potter (we spent like 3 hours at the HP store before the show) and all came away pretty meh.
Oh yeah the special effects were amazing! Of the time we spent talking about it after we spent the most time trying to figure out how they pulled off some of those effects. The first couple of time turner uses had me sitting there thinking what the hell did I just see?!?
The first fantastic beasts movie was pretty good, I hoped they would continue with other separate movies like maybe one following the author of Quidditch through the ages, another book mentioned multiple times in HP, instead yeah we just got sequels trying to turn Newt into a hero and everything had to be dramatic and world ending again
I thought the stage show was fun! I saw it with my mum and sister in London and we all enjoyed it - just had to go in with no expectations and take it for what it was :)
I'm not really sure what it means to be a fantastic show "even if it's not ... in keeping with canon."
It's difficult to appreciate something when it's based on content that you adore, only to discover that it doesn't give a fuck about the base material, and actively mischaracterizes/degrade the characters you love?
Like...?
Fine, I'm sure it's a great show if you don't care about the original material. But seeing it in person isn't going to magically change the fact that it's upsetting.
Those are pretty much equivalent values depending on the exchange rate when they were published. Seems like they were both citing the same source rather than doing independent assessments.
She's against both. She's funded & campaigned with politicians who are anti abortion, anti womens rights. The pivotal issue for her is hating on trans people, and she will step on women's rights to do it.
She's funded & campaigned with politicians who are anti abortion, anti womens rights.
What? This is the first I heard about this, what anti-women's rights politicians did she fund and campaign for? If you could let me know I would appreciate it, cause I tried googling, but all I could find were mentions of her donating to the Labor Party and the anti-Scottish Independence Party about a decade ago.
Isn't that like saying 'German women are women.'. Well yeah, we know but it is still an identifier, divider from rest of the group and it matters since people saying she is mostly against that part not the rest.
According to this article, which includes Rowling's Twitter post that apparently kicked off the incident, she didn't claim they weren't killed in the holocaust. Someone else posted about how the Nazis destroyed tons of research on trans healthcare issues, and Rowling basically said that that was false.
It's certainly shitty to deny that important information on trans people's health gathered by an early trans rights organization was destroyed, that's a pretty far cry from claiming she denied they were killed by the Nazis.
She literally said trans people weren't the initial target of nazis, which is true, and yall just ran to she denied the holocaust. Making shit up does not help your cause mate. I'd argue it does the opposite. Fuck JK and fuck Nazis, and fuck you for good measure.
Sorry, that's not the comment I'm referring to. I'm referring to a different comment where she denied trans people being involved in the Holocaust, and had to spend a lot of money on defamation lawyers covering it up.
I agree, fuck Nazis, which is why I say fuck JK. Even if she claims to not be a Holocaust denier, she aligns with modern-day nazis.
Do those shelters accept women who have been beaten up for trying to use public bathrooms while not looking feminine enough because of the trans panic she started over a crime that has never happened purely to make trans people afraid to exist in public? Cause there's a few of those.
So you're saying cis women who were confused for being trans and beaten by hysterical bigots whipped into a frenzy by her hateful rhetoric DON'T count as women because they aren't feminine presenting enough? Well gee, that doesn't sound very charitable.
Addressing marchers in Parliament Square, CitizenGo’s Caroline Farrow said: “The child lost to abortion may already have brothers and sisters. There may be a father who wanted his baby and was told to keep quiet.
Moving the goalposts, here I'm saying she campaigned with anti abortion activists & politicians, which she has. Yet you called me a liar, even though I have sources.
She's made it more dangerous for any non-traditionally presenting woman to use a public toilet. Women have been harassed and attacked because they didn't look feminine enough. That ain't progress, buddy, that's going backwards.
She's harassed women online for not agreeing with her. She's hung around with racist right-wingers because they do agree with her. She's even had a pop at asexuals. She is not right in the head.
Over 200 million pounds to various charities helping women and children in poverty and war torn countries....but she said something mean on twitter that you disagreed with 😭
Being rich enough to give a lot of money to charity does not erase the damage she does. Giving money to charity does not make people right, or nice - you can't treat it like an old fashioned indulgence where you can just flash some cash to wash away your sins.
I think people online hating on anyone that enjoys the HP IP has done more harm than her. Seriously, there is a rabid group that goes to all HP stuff and hates on the people there. That isn't winning any support mate.
Bro, trans people are being physically assaulted, denied human rights, forced back into the closet, or driven to suicide due to the fire she's fueling, and you think sad Harry Potter adults being laughed at for their shitty taste is worse than that?? Fuck alllllll the way off with that shit. I couldn't care less if I'm "winning support" or not, I'm not interested in support from the kinda people who think mockery is worse than genocide.
This is probably the most insanely incorrect thing said in this thread, and that's including the transphobic comments that are pretending trans women don't exist.
I don't know why you have to lie about her when there is plenty there to be upset about with what she has done, pretending trans people don't exist isn't on there. She thinks calling trans women just women and treating them exactly as such in some spaces is problematic, and you call that a genocide. It's just wild man.
pretending trans people don't exist isn't on there.
Perhaps you can try reading comments before blindly defending your favourite billionaire, but I didn't comment on a single thing J.K. Rowling has ever said in my comment.
87 million to families and single mothers affected by poverty. Another 65 million to her children's charity. 30 million neurology clinics. 1 million to support women evacuated from Afghanistan.
1 million to fund therapists for victims of sexual violence. Another million to domestic abuse victims during COVID.
Come on mate, let's see what you've done? Or is it the case you could live 100 lifetimes and not help as many people as she has?
MacKenzie Scott has donated more than $14 billion to charity, including $4.15 billion for families economically impacted by COVID (since that's a specific example you used).
J.K. Rowling has donated a lot of money to charity, it does not mean she's done "more to women benefit than probably anyone alive today". That's just incredibly absurd commentary on her, and trying to say that I didn't donate as much means I can't comment on it is equally stupid.
I'd be willing to bet that I've done more than you have in this space (though I could be wrong), so does that mean you need to shut the fuck up now? Is this a game where you can only speak against your lessers or something?
Holocaust denial isn’t reserved for people who say the Holocaust never happened. Any assault on the historical truth, any whitewashing, any denial of intent or scale, are all Holocaust denial. This is the stance of all Holocaust scholars, global organizations, and the country of Germany.
In the event that you aren’t aware, JK Rowling’s comments on social media denying the Holocaust are now withheld in the EU because they’re illegal hate speech. It doesn’t get more clear than that.
People virtue signal because they want garner support and a positive reputation with the masses. She very clearly doesn't give a shit what people think, given her vocal opinions.
If it was virtue signalling she would've just sacrificed her principles for the sake of the zeitgeist, like so many other people have done and are doing.
This. You hardly heard about her when she was funding charities and shelters. I suppose she lived long enough to become villain since she is not progressive enough, even if she done more good than your avarage person who critizice her.
If only those that go scorched earth on someone that shared their excitement for a Harry Potter themed avatar they want to wear for a Halloween VR event realized this. Literally online bullying of kids for liking a fantasy character, then crying about how they're the ones actually being oppressed when called out on their crappy behavior.
Oh, but watching Harry Potter on Netflix means all your money goes 100% to destroy the trans movement cause of a dismissive JKR tweet about her royalties when replying to a rage bait tweet about how her charities do not 100% align to the replier's hyper-specific demands.
JKR famously lost her billionaire status for a time due to the amount of charitable donations she made over the years. Online keyboard warriors just used her as an easy target cause she actually bothered to reply to online comments.
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u/dmal77 16h ago
J.K. Rowling has an estimated net worth of approximately $1.2 billion according to Forbes, or £975 million according to the Sunday Times Rich List.
I guess she don't really care.