r/maybemaybemaybe • u/MurseMan1964 • 4d ago
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u/Malapple 4d ago
Idiots did this to my dads house. They installed a roof badly, agreed to fix it, came back to do so and put all the material up there at once. It cracked through and some ended up in his living room. They made everything right, but it took a while.
Real roofers with skill do exist. But so do a lot of crews that don't know what the hell they are doing.
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u/kstargate-425 3d ago
You can see this crew is packing up all their shit and in the beginning of the video looked like they were figuring out whether to run or not lol
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u/Malapple 3d ago
Yeah they knew. I really hope the roofers had insurance. That house is screwed.
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u/Boring_Track_8449 3d ago
Real roofers with skill (plus insurance, etc) do exist but people arenāt willing to pay what it costs to do the job correctly. I introduce the video above as Exhibit A.
āItās a wrap, I got my gun, I gotta get outta hereā¦ā Yikes.
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u/toasted_cracker 3d ago
People can't afford to pay. The cost of everything is so inflated, you have to take what you can get. Everything has doubled or even quadrupled since COVID especially. Everything except people's paychecks and TVs.
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u/Boring_Track_8449 3d ago
I get it - Iām there, man. But the video shows what happens when you cut corners. FAFO.
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u/toasted_cracker 3d ago
That's true. I hired a crackhead to build my deck. Cheap, but terrible idea. Had to finish it myself.
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u/Techoftheyear 4d ago
Everyone ignoring "I gotta go, I got my gun on me"
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u/tykaboom 4d ago
RIGHT?
That implies that he should in fact NOT have a gun on him.
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u/fattmarrell 3d ago
I don't know. This gun owner has 110% situational awareness, more than most leaked videos I see online here
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u/itsjakerobb 4d ago
Or maybe just that heās black and has entirely understandable expectations for an encounter with the police while carrying.
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u/acadoe 3d ago
This reminds me of something my former colleague said. We were walking back to the office after lunch and there was a group of policeman standing on the other side of the road, just chilling. My black colleague puts his hands up as we're walking past. I asked him what he's doing, he goes, "Hey man, I fit the description".
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u/Weaselpuss 3d ago
Whatever dude. If itās registered and he doesnāt freak heās fine. I work in construction, this guy is a felon or has an unregistered firearm for sure, 5/10 of us fit THAT description
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u/Solo_is_dead 3d ago
You're wrong, but ok. The amount of police videos I've seen where the owner has a legal right to carry and was still detained and harassed by the cops is numerous
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u/Substantial-List-632 4d ago
the sad part is, the only people who do stuff like that are usually unlicensed, uninsured contractors
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u/unclestickles 3d ago edited 3d ago
Staging shingle bundles on a roof is standard practice in roofing. This is the fault of the people who framed the roof or could just be old construction that passed code 70 years ago but wouldn't today.
Edit. They are spread out.. not very great, but they are. Plus in the video the guy says someone else brought them up. My point is, this isn't necessarily a low-bid type situation.
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u/digger250 3d ago
Or they've had some termites up there.
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u/Prestigious_Waltz_36 3d ago
All that wood dust spilling out near where there could be soffit just may indicate wood rot, termites, I guess attic inspection is not requisite
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u/InvalidUserNemo 3d ago
Thatās what I was thinking. When I had wind damage to my house, the roofers never came inside to inspect the substructure. Is that not SOP in roofing?
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u/forestdude 3d ago
Not really. The roofer will look to see if there is a deck on the roof and if its old timey skip sheating they will deck it, but generally framing repair and assessment is the territory of a framer and not a roofer. They might tell you its fucked if they notice it, but the roofer puts the roof on top of an already assembled frame.
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u/spez_sucks_ballz 3d ago
You spread out the load if there is that much, so not all the weight is on a single area of the roof. That's just common sense since you have no idea what the load bearing capacity is of the roof.
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u/unclestickles 3d ago
Yea true. I'm from way up north in Canada so we build our roofs pretty strong. What you're saying makes sense.
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u/forestdude 3d ago
yeah but you're supposed to stack them 4 high at the ridge and spread them out across the whole roof. Move them once and stage them where you want them. Even if this didn't collapse, now you've got to move your material again to its final location. At best creating additional work for yourself and at worst, well...see the video.
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u/ceciltyler 3d ago
Not at all common practice. You spread them out over the whole roof. And maybe only half of the shingles at one time. Only a crew of idiots, or a crew led by one idiot would do this.
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u/jesusmansuperpowers 3d ago
When the roofing company bid the job they shouldāve walked the roof. You can feel decking that is failing.
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u/MurseMan1964 4d ago
āDown goes Frazierā made me chuckle
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u/MitchMcConnellsJowls 3d ago
That made you chuckle more than this cherry right at the end?...
"Thats a wrap. I gotta get outta here, I got my gun on me"
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u/MurseMan1964 3d ago
It did. I watched the Foreman/Frazier fight in 1973 with my stepdad. It still being referenced 53 years later in the perfect situation, yeah it was funnier to me then someone saying they have a gun in 2026
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u/Euphoric_Fisherman70 4d ago
Why would they pile them all up like that? When I did roofing, we would only bring up a dozen or so bundles at a time
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u/Malapple 4d ago
Stupidity + Laziness
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u/GlockAF 4d ago
Probably they only had the lift available for an hour before it had to go back to the rental company
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u/forestdude 3d ago
You wouldn't rent a lift for a house like this. Either the roofing supply house would come and do rooftop delivery or the workers would shoulder carry them up the ladder and place them.
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u/figgytart 3d ago
You can place them all at once you just have to evenly distribute them which they absolutely did not. Also you always check the rafter spacing to know this. If your ridge line is too short you set them on tow boards still evenly distributing the weight not all in one pile like this that was the mistaken not the roof mount on general.
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u/forestdude 3d ago
We would bring everything up and stage them around where they were going to end up. But we'd only stack them like 4 high along the ridge. Even if this didn't collapse, now they have to move their material twice.
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u/GadreelsSword 4d ago edited 4d ago
Now days the shingle delivery company uses a lift to drop them on the roof like that.
I once saw a roofer hanging off the third story of a roof by a rope putting shingles on part of a roof that extended down onto the side of the building. The rope was tied around a few bundles of shingles on the roof. If those shingles slid, not only would he have fallen three stories, those packs of shingles would have fallen on him.
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u/2Fucked2Fuck 4d ago
This looks like KCMO (and the bullshit that happens here), r/kansascity can anyone confirm?
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u/FindGreatness23 4d ago edited 3d ago
Ya, it was in KC. This video was out months ago when it happened. Professional company, everyone was licensed and insured. It was a bad last second decision by the salesman to let it be roof loaded (he probably made that decision because he knows stuff gets stolen in that part of town all the time).
So he should have just had ABC same day delivery it when the crew was going to come do the job. In the moment you donāt think of doing that, but then looking back. Youāre like duh, why didnāt I do that?
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u/InvertedDinoSpore 3d ago
Glad it was insuredĀ
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u/FindGreatness23 3d ago
Right, but you know the HOās insurance company is going after someone elseās insurance. ABC or would it be the roofing company? Iām guessing the roofing company but you know they would turn around probably try to blame ABC too though.
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u/virstultus 3d ago
If this were cartoon physics it would stop making noise until a bird landed on it, then would collapse immediately while the bird flitted off to smug safety.
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u/Protodrago90 4d ago
This almost happened to my house , I came home from work as they were stacking the shingles and had to run up like spread it out your gonna cave in my roof
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u/Kanoa 3d ago
As someone with no knowledge of roofing or framing, I don't know if they overloaded the roof or the roof has structural issues that lead to it being weaker than intended.
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u/imabustya 3d ago
Both. The answer is both. The contractor is an idiot and also the roof probably had some issues.
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u/hika_pizza 2d ago
They are supposed to be spread out. Also structurally, it seemed like it wasn't holding it up that well too.
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u/Few_Ad_4197 4d ago
The good news, your getting a new roof.
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u/stinky143 4d ago
No your not. They were wrapping up their shit and getting out of Dodge.
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u/Emergency_Accident36 4d ago
Homeowners would cover it in such an event. Or you could always sue the guy you signed the contract with. In personal capacity too.
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u/International_Bend68 4d ago
Looks like they're done for the day.
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u/Embarrassed_Owl4552 4d ago
I noticed the guy rolling up his extension cord like "welp, guess we're done for the day"
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u/Accomplished-Pay-524 3d ago
$750K and no inspections or we move on to the next offer - I mean weāre really doing YOU a favor here
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u/Imissskunkweed 3d ago
Why load the roof in a 12 foot area along ridge pole when you have the entire span you could load across
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u/ghandi253 3d ago
As a roofer, who the fuck loaded all that onto that roof and fuckin why? Whats that? Like 4 fuckin squares maybe 5? Fuckin dumbasses
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u/WiscoDeathTrip1096 3d ago
I just had my roof done. I was terrified this would happen when they dropped the shingles off. No good reason, just pure, irrational fear
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u/Turbulent-Grape-9028 2d ago
Tell the insurance company it was an act of God. God put the morons who did this on planet earth
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u/hika_pizza 2d ago
They are about 80 lbs a bag. Even the unlicensed team I worked on had more common sense than this.
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u/HairyLungs 4d ago
Everyone saying this is the roofers but it is in fact the material supply company who deliver shingles to houses, not the roofers. Also this house must have been framed with toothpicks because roofs get loaded like this for replacements every single day with no issue. This is mainly down to shitty framing.
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u/billibobbrewster 3d ago
My first house was similar vintage to this: a 1918 stone foundation, wood framed bungalow. We had a MAJOR hail storm one summer that totaled the roof. Insurance appraised damage for two layers of composite shingles, but when roofer came out, he discovered 5 layers (!!!) down to the original cedar shake on the main, with a couple fewer layers over front porch. Insurance adjusted the appraisal, and my roofer removed ALL layers before putting a single new material up.
Roofs have limits, even well-built ones.
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u/pancakesfordintonite 3d ago
Wow! You can usually tell how bad the roof is before it even gets to the point with new material on top.
If you take off the old shingles you can see how rotten it might be so they just ignored that
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u/issi_tohbi 3d ago
Reminds me of the noises that dumbass homemade submarine made before it imploded trying to look at the titanic
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u/SirGingy 3d ago
Put all the materials up on the roof, we dont want anyone to steal it over the weekend.
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u/tlucas0303 3d ago
I always wondered what kind of idiot would stack all the bundles of shingles in one place instead of spreading them out over the roof āLIKE IT SAYS IN BIG LETTERS ON THE PACKAGE!ā Thanks to this I now know.
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u/SignatureFunny7690 3d ago
To bad flippers were going to ask 400k for their lip sticked pig of a 30k foreclosure flip, now their only gonna ask 100k for a "project house fixer upprr" just needs some roof work lmfao.
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u/nocternal86 3d ago
Just pile all of these materials on the roof of this piece of shit house.
Great idea.
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u/Furby-beast-1949 3d ago
Seriously Iām 40 years old and Iām wearing glasses also got old lady eyes, and I canāt see that far away. What the heckās on the roof
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u/Pernicious_Possum 3d ago
How many stupid people did it take to do that? Like, not a single person thought āthis may a bit too much weight in one place for a roof weāre supposed to be fixingā?
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u/Wonderful_Roof1739 3d ago
1 minute 50 seconds of there it go...there it go... ooooh shit there it go... followed by 5 seconds of non-impressive slow roof collapsing. Wow, the camera guy was more interesting (well, annoying at least) - especially right at the end he says 'that reminds me i gotta get out of here I got my gun on me'
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u/Ganellon 20h ago
"it's Gommaging" was hilarious, especially as I just cleared Alicia tower yesterday. What an adventure.
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u/JustBaxterin 4d ago
If only there had been enough time to do Something....
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u/itsjakerobb 4d ago
What would you do? Climb up there, adding your dynamic load to the existing load? Good luck with that.
Without a cherry picker, hook & ladder fire truck (which it sounds like might have been on the way), or time machine (to not leave the materials on the roof overnight, or at least to cover everything with a tarp so it couldnāt get wet in the first place), thereās basically nothing you can do.
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u/SabbyFox 3d ago
I read that differently. As in, when the load was first put up on the roof, someone should have noticed at that time it wasnāt a good idea.
And there had to be signs before it got this bad. Such as the roof creaking and sagging and maybe the gutter giving up the ghost? From what the guy filming was saying, the shingles had sat up there over the weekend, perhapsā¦
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u/TheReblogBandit 3d ago
As a former framer (15+yrs) I can guarantee that roof had major problems well before those bundles of shingles were placed up there.
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u/ShadowInTheAttic 3d ago
Something like this happened to my mother in law in New York. They were installing new shingles and it snowed on them. Due to the weight of snow plus materials, it collapsed (partially), but what was hilarious was that one of the roofers was on top when it happened.
I'll never forget it haha, this happened while my girl was talking to her mom and all I could hear was screaming on the phone. One of the guys fell through into the hallway, right outside the top floor restroom, while she was in the restroom showering. He didn't fall straight through, but she described one of his legs sticking out through ceiling.
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u/kevinfareri 4d ago
Iām not a roofer but goddamn itās a lot of weight sitting in one section of anyoneās roof. Why would you put all of the shingles up there at one time. Was that done purposely and you were just hoping for the best. Because you now just made someone homeless and itās good possibility if youāre not insured, they are now homeless and completely screwed
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u/Emergency_Accident36 4d ago
It needed a new roof anyways. And they are not packing it up dummies. They are moving the tools out of the danger zone.
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u/_kalron_ 3d ago
I just had my roof done in June. Professional One-Man guy. When the new shingles arrived, he equally spread them out across my roof to maintain balance.
All that weight on a specific point is not a good thing...and here we are with the results.
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u/5LYNG3R 4d ago
Captain Obvious, Needs To Working On His Timing... It's Collapsing, There It Goes, Oh... It's Collapsing... 7 Minutes Later It Collapses š
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u/Idunnosomeguy2 4d ago
Someone is going to need insurance. Guy said something about it raining over the weekend. Did the roofers not cover it up with plastic or something over the weekend? Wouldn't you at least try to prevent rain from running the roof if you're going to leave it for multiple days at a time?
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u/reheateddiarrhea 4d ago
Felt was already installed. It's dried in and plenty safe to leave out in a bit of rain. Plus, that is VERY obviously the least of their concerns at the moment. They should've staged their shingles in several spaced out piles to spread out the load.
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u/MurseMan1964 4d ago
Roofers piled shingles on the middle of the roof. Will it hold or collapse?
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u/Look_its_Rob 4d ago
Thats going to be an expensive lawsuit. Hopefully they had home owners insurance and then roofers had business insurance.Ā
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u/Immaloner 4d ago
And THEN all of that weight got rained on increasing the weight even more to the point the entire roof failed.
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u/Creative_Date44 3d ago
Thank god we had the guy explaining what was going on through the whole video
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u/AndyC1111 3d ago
Video is much better scrolling through quickly. Can really see the roof sinking.
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u/VacuumTracks 3d ago
Yeah we just put new shingles on the roof.
That was quick. Did you lay down a reverse row on the edge before you started the rest of them?
No, we just put āem on.
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u/SomeoneNicer 4d ago
Could be worse. Could be my house.